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Rather than creating another thread that gives members of the community a prime forum to take shots at current players on our squad, I figured I'd create one that would give members a chance to pick which players they think will fit into the roster when we are ready to sign free agents in 2013.

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If everything goes as planned, this is the year that we will be primed to make a serious overnight jump that teams like the Pacers and Bulls have been able to take in recent seasons.Hoopsworld has posted a list of free agents available that year, so let's all put that information together with our personal beliefs of what will happen along the way and rosterbate away. Keep in mind, this is strictly for fun, but try to be as realistic as possible.

For me, it goes like this......................

Of the players on our team currently, I predict Kemba Walker and Bismack Biyombo to remain (simply based on them being 1st round draft picks this year that have played halfway decent), Gerald Henderson based on my belief that the front office has a lot of faith in him and his work ethic, and D.J. White, Byron Mullens, and Derrick Brown possibly hanging around as role players. Reggie Williams looks to be a keeper as well (*note, in my theory, Thomas has been traded for an expiring deal/amnestied

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Who said amnesty me??!!!!

, and everyone else (minus whatever we get, if anything for D.J.), just fell off the books. We also will have a high pick, if not the first, so I'll assume that we'll do what's been predicted with the pick (I know we're not guaranteed to get it!) So, let's start with a simple depth chart.............

PG Walker

SG Henderson

SF Williams, Brown,

PF Anthony Davis, White

C Biyombo, Mullens

At the least.............., that's 7 players. Using the current salary scales, Walker, Henderson, Biyombo, and Mullens can be retained for roughly $13.4 million. Davis, if drafted number one overall, can be expecting a salary of about $5.5 million that year. I expect D.J. White to be signed to an extension that pays him $3.5 million annually, Brown somewhere close to $2 million and for us to try to retain Williams, hopefully for $5 million or less at that point (yes, I expect him to double is worth while here. That brings us to $29.4 million. Since that will be two years away, we will more than likely have another top 5 pick (along with Portland's pick) to add along with that which will come with another $5-6 million tag. Judging from everything I'm seeing right now, it would need to be a more pure point guard than Walker, relegating him to a combo guard role off the bench, ala Ben Gordon. So for my scenario, we're sitting at roughly $36 million in eaten cap space with 4 roster spots open. Assuming the cap hovers somewhere around $58 million at that point still, we will have roughly $22 million dollars to complete our "contender" before Jordan is forced to do as he promises and begin paying the luxury tax.

In my scenario, with studs presumably already at the point or center, one of the other three positions' starters will have to be relegated to the bench. Should it be Williams, Henderson, Biyombo, or all three? Let me take a look at the free agents available...........

@SG

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Ellis in Charlotte? It could happen.

My favorites from the class included Monta Ellis, Kevin Martin, and Tyreke Evans, three players who I feel would be upgrades at the position and allow Henderson to flourish in a 6th man role.

@SF

Josh Smith will be by far the best free agent small forward around this time and it would make a lot of sense to make a run at him if given the opportunity. In fact, he'll probably be the only "difference maker" at his position that year on the market.

@ PF

Blake Griffin is a pipe dream, but the Thunder could have issues retaining Serge Ibaka with everyone else on the team receiving extensions. There are a few unrestricted free agents available that could step in and be starters over, or very good backups to Biyombo at that point including Paul Millsap, Al Jefferson, and Lamar Odom amongst others.

Out of these choices, I would use the $22 million to sign Josh Smith and Monta Ellis to deals while hoping to just fill in the backup PF spot with a veteran on their last legs who could still contribute. Antawn Jamison maybe?

Either way, for me, our final product will end up looking something like.......

PG Ian Miller, Walker, BJ Young

SG Ellis, Henderson

SF Smith, Williams, Brown

PF Davis, Jamison, White

C Biyombo, Mullens

with the two other spots on the roster being dedicated to 2nd round picks, minimum level free agents, or D-Leaguers who are still developing. Would that squad be good enough to actually compete for a title over the Miami Heat or Chicago Bulls? What would your squad look like? What free agents do you think we should make a run after?

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who is ian miller?

that roster would be awesome though! miami would still have to fill the team with old men willing to sign cheap contracts while our bench would be young kids that could come in and score all day. we would run circles around the nba. hendo as a 6th man? wow!

by MattyIceJunior on Feb 9, 2012 9:58 AM EST reply actions  

I think you'll be hearing more about Miller as the months go on.

The thing I like about that free agent class is there are a lot of difference makers hitting the market who aren’t “superstars” or carry the diva attitude with them and probably would be willing to sign with a team like ours if the money is right.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

also

should dwight and d-will decide to excersize their player options and stay with their teams (more likely for D-Will), both would be unrestricted free agents in 2013

BTW, Matt Carroll as an ETO after this season, so he could be gone by as early as 2012. Diop has a player option, which I presume he’ll keep. DJ Augustin is due for a pay raise next year regardless where he ends up, but we could techincally keep him with a qualifying offer of 4.4 million. DJ White and Derrick Brown are both techincally restricted free agents going into 2012, also.

Oh, and if Bismack Biyombo and Kemba Walker don’t pan out? Both of them have team options for 2013 as well, meaning, literally, we could only have our upcoming draft picks and Tyrus Thomas on the roster. In your scenario, we wouldn’t have Tyrus on the roster, either.

Basically, in 2013, the Charlotte Bobcats could look absolutely nothing like the current Charlotte Bobcats. Which is what we’re all hoping, right?

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

Pretty much.

I think it’s quite clear that this roster as currently constructed won’t produce a championship, or playoff berth, no matter how much growing they do together. We have a few players on the team that would be quality rotation players anywhere in the league, but something will have to be done to get us to that next level. I think the draft is going to help a lot, but not enough. It’s also why I’m so hesitant on Blatche. I’d actually rather have the cap space than him.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

a few things:

josh smith and monta ellis will both turn 29 during the 2013-2014 season, but that will have been smiths 10th year and ellis 9th year – are they gonna be worth max contracts? and techincally, under the new cba, josh smith could get 14 million as his max contract since that will be his 10th nba season

not to mention, we’ll also be in position to sign someone this upcoming offseason, who and how much depends on whether we’re interested in keeping DJ Augustin around or not

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 1:00 PM EST reply actions  

personally, i'd like to see us make strong pushes for

eric gordon, oj mayo, ryan anderson, brook lopez, ROY HIBBERT, terrence williams, kwame brown, wilson chandler and of course deron williams and dwight howard somehow

if we let dj go, we should also bring in a veteran PG on a 1-2 year contract to give Kemba the best possible chance to develop into the PG he needs to become if he doesn’t want to be relegated to 6th or 7th man – kirk heinrich, mo williams, andre miller, mike bibby, even baron davis or jason kidd

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Kirk Hinrich and Andre Miller (if guaranteed a starting spot)

would be excellent choices.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Roy Hibbert even for max contract

i like Bobcats to build around ROY HIBBERT. And then sign another SG like Eric Gordon, Tyreke Evans or Anthony Morrow. I also like the idea of signing a cheap veteran PG like Baron Davis or Andre Miller to teach Kemba how to play PG. We actually need a SF and I like Wilson Chandler or Omri Caspi. Josh Smith will be too expensive for us to take.

by mjfan on Feb 9, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I would be scared to give Hibbert a max contract.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 8:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Y?

Hibbert is a good Center. And I think he’ll be one of the top centers for years to come. What I dont like is the idea of Casspi (who lost his starting spot to my boy, ALONZO GEE baby)…And I also think Reggie Will will earn a starting spot by next month. So Im not too big on the SF spot. But I do think we need another SG. And Andre Miller or Ramon Sessions for PG…

by focuslja on Feb 10, 2012 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Hibbert and max just don't sound good together.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

the reason I would be reluctant is that

considering what he makes now, a max contract is a GIANT pay increase

i mean, max contracts are for the best players in the NBA, right? is hibbert one of the best? he’s not even a lock for the second best center in the East when arguments can be made for Greg Monroe and Tyson Chandler

BUT we’ll be in no position to be cheap, so if we have to give him the max to win out on the bidding war, so be it, he’s definatley worth building around

by adamcawa on Feb 10, 2012 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, in the end,

someone is going to have to overbid for him. I think our spending opportunities will begin drying up if we don’t make a move that offseason.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Reggie Will will not start in front of Henderson, ever!

What makes you think this will happen. If anything, he will replace the PG’s we have. Who’s gonna guard? Who’s gonna get to the FT line? Who’s gonna consistently score? You just got a hard on for Hendo. A complete IDIOT!

by LBhater on Feb 10, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol.

Well he did say at SF meaning Williams would be taking Maggettes spot.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 9:09 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Max contracts?

Lord no. They aren’t worth that to me. I think squeezing them in with the room we would have at about $11 million would be reasonable though. They should both be in their primes and steady contributors and I’d be comfortable handing out those contracts at their age.

It’s so hard to tell what’s going to happen with Augustin at this point. Has his injury hurt his trade value? Has Kemba’s lack of good ball movement increased his value to us? I think now, more than ever, it’s a complete toss up on what we attempt to do with D.J.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

the reason i mentioned it is b/c 11 million wouldve been a max contract for monta

and wouldve been for smith had it been a year earlier – 22 million = two max 6-9 year player contracts, i just assumed that since you picked 22 million you kinna knew that

turns out it was just cooincidence

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol. No. I wasn't aware of that.

In that case, I would be fine signing them to the max. I thought you were saying like give them $14 million a year or something.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

i was saying, the max contract for josh smith is 14 million

since you gave them 11 million apiece, i assumed you were deeming them max contract players and was saying we would have to give josh smith 14 million

i’m not sure two 29 year old players with a decade under them are worth max contracts – 29 are peak years in the NBA, but after a decade? i’m not so sure

of course, we’ll be able to see how they play next season anyway to notice any kind of decline

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah,

the only thing is we would have to keep shuffling at that point if we don’t go all out to sign free agents that year. It’s a delicate process. We would begin having to shift our own players out who are due for extensions or sign them to the extensions and not have any space to reach out to free agents.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

we can fill a team up with 1 year contracts

pretty easily – we just have to meet the salary min

sign one big free agent this off-season, and we’ll have 2 draft picks, that replaces the three players we lose

then in the following off-season, we’ll have our free agent, last year’s drafts picks, probably this year’s draft picks, and a bunch of money

even if we give eric gordon a max contract (which i think he’s worth) the most it’ll be is 9 million, i don’t see too many other max contract guys in the 2012 free agency, maybe roy hibbert? has he played up to max contract worthiness yet? even still, that’s a HUGE jump in salary for him

obviously dwill and superman are max contract guys

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Eric Gordon is someone I think would be an upgrade over Henderson as well.

He has awesome scoring potential and could be the perfect yin to Hendo’s yang. That’s why I like Ellis and Martin a lot as well.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions  

i think dj augustin

is still worth a second round pick

his injury isn’t career threatening, it’s just a weird freak injury and also the front office may have ulterior motives in sitting him out

heck, for all we know, they’re actively shopping him and have already told him he’s gone, so they’re just sitting him out with injury to collect some insurance or something

he’s played exceptionally well this season, even better when you consider what he was able to do with the talent around him, there has to be some nba team seeking interest

then again, if we trade him, we resign ourselves to go with cory higgins the rest of the season, and NO ONE wants that whose last name isn’t Higgins or Jordan

by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I would

expect general manager’s around the league to realize that his injury isn’t too serious, but I’m sure his trade value has dropped simply by him not being on the court. Especially because he’s with us.

And Higgins is awful.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Ian Miller?

The bum from United Faith….wow.

"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."

by FirstCat on Feb 9, 2012 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Lol.

He’s not a bum. I’m not terribly in love with his game but just picked one of the higher rated point guards from the draft that year at this point. I just think it’s more of finding another star quality player in the draft two years from now.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

here's mine...

PG Walker, Dj Augustin, (D-leaguer)

SG Ellis, Henderson

SF Smith, R.Williams, (Unrestricted FA)

PF Odom, White,Jamison

C Biyombo, (2012 pick must be a center), Prybilla

  • if the FO can get ODOM, Monta and Jamison i think we can be as a consistent playoff contender. esp with odom in the squad who is very good in the locker room and on the court. Some in this roster i suggested can play 2-3 positions. As a contender,maybe a long shot. About DJ, i think he can contribute keeping a stable pace. unlike kemba who is sometimes erratic as a PG. Me think, he aint broken why change him. He can still contribute thou. All we need now are an exceptional coaching staff that can bring “D” and “O” in highgear for 48mins to this players and pushing the young ones to do more.. All this in my christmas wishlist..

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by tanduay5years on Feb 9, 2012 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

I like that squad as well.

Pryzbilla should be retired for real by then though. Lol. But I totally agree about D.J.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 6:54 PM EST up reply actions  

i guess ur ryt with Pryzbilla.

But who else can bang heads with no regards of human life? mullens? il take najera anytime. Mullens plays out of position in the 5. Too soft and lost at times. He can play (MAYBE) in the 4 or in the d-league. He just cant cut it. I need someone like a perkins, horford type of mentality – “cross this line and ur dead”. Hard nose on the “d”. Serge can be but we are loaded in the 4.. sigh.. how i wish this can really happen in real life. (o.o)

The ball is round so is the rim and the world. anything can happen if you play hard.

by tanduay5years on Feb 9, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol. If only it could be so simple.

I understand though homey. For me, it’s all about really just seeing who members of the community felt were worth keeping on our current squad. Either way, I think we have a chance to be STACKED when that year comes around. Something like the Denver Nuggets.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Next season.... il be waiting for ya....

im itchin for biyombo and kemba’s dev and the draft pick… NO! wait. im just itchin for this season to end! or il die scratchin my self to death..

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by tanduay5years on Feb 9, 2012 7:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This season can't end soon enough.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 7:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Disgusting.

But true.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 9, 2012 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

What are the chances we get the first pick in this years draft??

with David Stern controlling the Hornets…bc lot of the rosterbation will depend upon who we get in this years draft.

by jay23 on Feb 10, 2012 9:41 AM EST reply actions  

I think we will have the "best" chance which is 25%

but that’s far from a guarantee. If we finish with the worst record though, we will get a top four pick which guarantees us a player that we can at the least be optimistic about. Whether it’s Barnes, Sullinger, Kidd-Gilchrist, Drummond or whoever, we’ll come away with a decent piece.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

psssh the draft is rigged, if the Hornets are anywhere close

we have a 0% chance

but thankfully even without anthony davis we can still get a great player (Drummond, MKG, Barnes, Lamb) and will have to settle for our future FC in free agency

by adamcawa on Feb 10, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

If the Hornets end up with the top pick,

I think the NBA’s integrity would be greatly questioned (not like it isn’t already). They are going to have to do that in the open this year.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 12:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah integrity would be questioned...

but quite frankly I don’t think David Stern cares. But addition of Davis, Gilchrist or Barnes would be a step in the right direction. I hope we don’t draft Sullinger though I can see him turning into Sean May 2.0.

by jay23 on Feb 10, 2012 6:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol. You're right. Stern doesn't give a damn. He'll be right

up there on his podium smiling with Davis and his Hornets hat. And I have fears about Sullinger as well.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 7:09 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont understand the hype about Drummond, the game i watched him he looked like a scrub. I will be very disapointed if we dont get Anthony Davis this year, although i think Barnes is going to be special as a Pro i like Gilchrist alot to. As far as FA i would love to see us pick up Hibbert i think you would be perfect to play with Bismack and Davis.

by Bcat2.0 on Feb 10, 2012 5:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Drummond isn't overly impressive,

but he’s a huge body with good footwork. Big men like that don’t come around too often and can translate well into the NBA. I’ll be disappointed if we don’t end up with a top 2 pick. New Orleans has been almost as bad, so they kinda “deserve” it too. The NBA still owning them creates an extreme conflict of interests though when it comes to the draft. Bismack, Davis, and Hibbert would be a dominant front line.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't ever see Ian as a starter in the NBA. Over the years I have played with Ian and against Ian. I just see him as a poor mans O.J Mayo

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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Feb 10, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions  

Certainly debatable.

Like I say, I’m not really going off any personal choices, just the mock draft.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 10, 2012 12:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I've just read bits of this post

But basically I’m just hoping with all our new found cap space we don’t go out and overpay to get a guy here. Considering Maggette makes almost 11 mil, Monte or Josh Smith at that price doesn’t seem too bad but we just gotta be able to fit all the pieces and honestly I don’t even think that’s enough to attract them. And unfortunately other than maybe PT for a young unproven guy and maybe(?) Jordan being the owner is what we have going for us to attract FA’s – I feel like we’d have to overbid to get guys to come but that’s just me.

Interesting nobody has mentioned Steph Curry as a possibility – of all the solid players about to come out, he makes a lot of sense in terms of getting fans excited and I would think we’d have a shot with him b/c of family and he does have a home near Charlotte. But I’m thinking our team is gonna have to also be a lot better than it is now to attract him as well.

by JPCats785 on Feb 10, 2012 10:04 PM EST reply actions  

No Curry please...

stop with the marketing strategies…Curry is the definition of injury prone…

by focuslja on Feb 11, 2012 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

His ankle issues are becoming a big concern.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 9:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And the most proven marketing

Strategy certainly is winning.

I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 9:27 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

This isn’t about marketing this is about who can ball and winning and Curry can definitely ball and he’d help us win. I simply mention him b/c I think he’s the best player that we’d have a decent (maybe not high) chance of signing.

There’s not gonna be another better player’s name you throw out that I would say…. hmm we’ll have a chance at signing that guy. Just being real 101

by JPCats785 on Feb 11, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Curry is a great possibility as well

I just tried to stay away from the RFAs, though I did mention Evans.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 9:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

OT

But I hate that version of that song.

"All I know is good and ball and RAPE!"

by mad_dog_maddux on Feb 11, 2012 12:32 AM EST reply actions  

There is another?

I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 9:19 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, the album version is much different.

"All I know is good and ball and RAPE!"

by mad_dog_maddux on Feb 14, 2012 3:33 AM EST up reply actions  

How about Jeremy Lin??

I’m sure we can find a spot for him somewhere on our roster :)

by jay23 on Feb 11, 2012 11:09 AM EST reply actions  

Something tells me he wouldn't be as effective in our "offense".

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 11:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Its funny we had room on our roster for Corey Higgens but Jeremy Lin could not at least get a look.

by Bcat2.0 on Feb 11, 2012 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

And you're sure hindsight has nothing to do with that?

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean things are clearer after they actually happen? Huh?

The funny thing is that ESPN has reported that the Knicks almost cut Lin last week so they wouldn’t have to guarantee his contract. So it’s pretty safe to say they didn’t really believe in him until the last few days either.

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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 11, 2012 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty much.

Some players just perform a lot better in games than in practice. There are probably quite a few hidden gems around the league that are just restricted to the bench.

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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 11, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

You're talking about Najera. I just know it.

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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 11, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean there are other players besides the GM's son out there?

by Aisander D on Feb 12, 2012 9:28 PM EST up reply actions  

my point is our FO has no clue how to evaluate talent they never have MJ needs to quit hiring his buddys to run things, thats not how you run a profesional team. hiring Cho was a good first step. I just wonder if Cho is making the decisions or if MJ is still calling those shots.

by Bcat2.0 on Feb 11, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions  

you do realize

the fact that higgins is on this team has absolutely NOTHING to do with his talent level, right?

by adamcawa on Feb 12, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesnt matter

The fact that there is any reason other than talent that he is on the team is a testament of the type of organization MJ is running

by focuslja on Feb 12, 2012 12:29 PM EST up reply actions  

we've already been over this elsewhere

it’s a damn shame, but it’s a reality, so crying over who we COULD have instead of Higgins is pointless since it’s obvious by now that he’s not going anywhere

by adamcawa on Feb 12, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll play.

This year, we trade DJ and Boris for whatever we can get our hands on. I’m going to be optimistic and say we get Kirk Heinrich ($9 million expiring) and the Hawks first round pick for the pair. I’m going to venture a guess and say that they’re somewhere between where they are now (#26) and what some guessed they would be (#18) and say it’ll the #22 overall pick. I’m also going to be optimistic and say we get the #1 overall pick. We’ll also extend DJ White at some point, probably for three years.

From there, we’d obviously draft Anthony Davis and then a small forward with #22. Obviously it’s too early to prognosticate the #22 overall pick, but guys like Terence Jones and Kris Joseph look like realistic options to consider. The #33 pick I’d probably use on a SG, but whoever they pick probably won’t have much of an impact on the franchise. After the draft, we pick up Antwan Jamison. We have the knowledge he wants to play here, he won’t take much playing time from anyone who matters, and he’d probably be good for Anthony Davis. Other than that, we stand pat and move onto 2013.

In 2013, we’d be better than we are this year, but not by much. We’ll have Cory Maggette’s contract expiring, and while he’s not exactly the most attractive piece on the market, I feel there might be some interest in him at the deadline. I’ll go out on a limb and say we can finagle a late-late first round pick for him (30-32). Anthony Davis will excite us, we’ll continue to see strides from Kemba, Bismack, Hendo, we’ll upset a good team a couple times, but we’ll probably end up in the 5-8 range in the draft (unless we get lucky with the lottery). Sometime during the season or in the off-season, we’ll extend Henderson for 3 years. I’m not going to prognosticate who we’d get in the 2013 draft, but if it’s where I expect (5-8) they’ll be a pretty good contributor to our team.

In 2014, I feel that’s when everything starts to come together. Here’s what I expect the core of our team to look like:
PG- Kemba Walker
SG- Henderson, Reggie Williams
SF- Kris Joseph (guess)
PF- Davis, White
C- Biyombo, Mullens

That means we’d have 4 more spaces available. If all goes according to my plan, we’d have used those spaces on: #33 in 2012, #5, #30, #35. Tyrus Thomas aside, that would mean the only players on long term contracts at that point will be Henderson and White just as it’s about to be time to pay Kemba and Biyombo, so we’ll have a bevy of cap space. And if those players are as good as I think they’ll be in 3 years, I think we’ll be competing for one of the last playoff spots.

After that, I don’t know. How good those players are will decide the future for our team in the years after that. Either we’ll be good enough to start competing for a NBA championship with that squad, or maybe we’ll decide to make a trade or sign a big FA. All I know is that I’m looking forward to the future.

(Disclaimer: I left out TT on purpose because I’m genuinely baffled as to what to do with him in the future. We should probably amnesty him if he doesn’t show us something the rest of the season, but we also aren’t in the best financial shape to be burning all that money.)

If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personally.

by Panthers FTW on Feb 11, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

just curious

why we would trade boris and dj for heinrich? it hardly makes sense to trade expirings for expirings unless you’re over the cap and are looking to make a move at the trade deadline (see Boston)

by adamcawa on Feb 12, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions  

We'd also be getting the first round pick.

Atlanta is one of the few teams we can make this kind of trade with because Heinrich is one of the few expensive expiring we could swap out with Diaw.

DJ is the prize for Atlanta, the first round pick is the prize for us. Diaw and Heinrich are just fodder to make the trade work.

If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personally.

by Panthers FTW on Feb 12, 2012 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

no way atlanta does that deal

unless we do a sign and trade with DJ, but it would need to be a number that both atlanta agrees on and is enough to keep DJ from wanting to test free agency

otherwise they’re simply losing a draft pick

by adamcawa on Feb 12, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

It depends.

If they have a high enough opinion of DJ and Boris, they may see them as an instrumental cog in them winning the NBA Championship. Atlanta is trying to win now, thus their draft picks aren’t as important to them as ours. I can see reasons for them doing it, but then again I can also see reasons why they wouldn’t.

Plus, if they like DJ enough, they’d also we winning the ability to have first dibs on resigning him.

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by Panthers FTW on Feb 12, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

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