Bobcats Lose Fight Against Celtics, 94-84
Well that game was ... interesting.
Paul Pierce made history by eclipsing Larry Bird's scoring total to rise to second in all-time scoring in Celtics history, but only after forcing three after three in the first half. And Derrick Brown was a force to be reckoned with, finishing a perfect 10-for-10 on the night.
To their credit, the Bobcats fought to stay in this one late, despite the Celtics glaringly outclassing the Bobcats talent. Early on, Charlotte and Boston exchanged the lead often, surprising me, and probably many others. Reggie Williams hit a few threes early and the Bobcats were moving the ball somewhat decently to find the open man after the initial garbage-quality minutes. But mostly it was just the Celtics shooting themselves in the foot that led to the Bobcats staying within reach. They had some sloppy turnovers and seemingly kept passing up good looks solely to try to get Paul Pierce the three-pointer that would get him past Larry Bird. The Bobcats didn't have many turnovers, but weak shot-selection served the same purpose anyway.
Things got out of hand in the second half as ball movement slowed to a stand-still more often than in the first half. Meanwhile, the Celtics offense was just consistently doing the opposite and began to really make the most of the Bobcats weakness in the paint. Not even Derrick Brown catching fire late could help the Bobcats make up ground and the Celtics ultimately cruised to a 10-point victory.
What can I say about Derrick Brown tonight? The man was just killing it. He played smart basketball, hitting shots inside and outside, driving efficiently and finishing at the rim. He's been playing quite well lately, scoring about 11 points per game on 54 percent shooting over the last nine games.
Kemba Walker was pretty Kemba Walker-y, scoring pretty well, I suppose. He showed short flashes of some nice passing, but to put it bluntly, two assists on the night is not a sign of a great distributing night. He had some fine dimes that weren't finished by Boris Diaw or Bismack Biyombo or whomever, but two assists are two assists. There will be nights like these where he finds his own shots more easily than he finds teammates, especially against defenses like the Celtics', so I wouldn't be too concerned, but I think we knew this coming in. He's still growing into his role and I know I'm seeing him develop more as a passer, though it's nothing drastic.
Bismack Biyombo on the other hand, had a rather disappointing night. His hands seemed to be sculpted from the finest slabs of rump roast at the nearest Boston butcher shop, fumbling a couple passes that should have been decent scoring looks. His defense was nothing to go streaking over, affecting shot selection in the paint, but not a whole lot else. He didn't rebound well either.
Reggie Williams continued his strong play, scoring well and even passing efficiently. Can't ask for more out of the man.
As for everyone else - meh. Tyrus Thomas and Boris Diaw combined for 3-12 shooting while nearly giving up a triple-double to Paul Pierce and making Kevin Garnett look about 7 years younger. Byron Mullens was what we've begun to expect from him, hitting those long twos and being generally abhorrent on defense. Cory Higgins... lol, just lol.
The Celtics were just too good for the Bobcats. Ray Allen was too quick for his defenders. Rajon Rondo quietly had a double-double as he picked apart Charlotte's defense. Their frontcourt too strong. Their defense wasn't exemplary, but it got the job done. The Celtics hardly looked like world-beaters, but with their advantage in talent, they didn't need to be to handily beat Charlotte.
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This game proves to me that Derrick Brown can be a legitimate back up small forward.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Brown and Henderson improves a lot this year
His jump shots improved although I want too see him extend his shooting range until the 3pt area and he should also be working on his ball handling. Williams, Brown, Henderson, Bismack and DJ White are the players I want to keep on this team. But I want to give Walker a chance for 2 more seasons although I am not a fan of a small PG, a PG of at least 6’3" is what I would like to have on this team. I still don’t understand why we keep on drafting a small PG ( Felton, DJ and now Kemba ). We wasted 3 1st round draft picks for PG position only. From which planet did we hire those kind of managers?
Also, MKG looks like a monster.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Damn..

"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
this thread has already taken a turn for the worse
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
Ben, it's like you opened up a formspring and the first question was....
Wait, didn’t you murder a guy one time?
I understand this comment one word at a time but not as a whole
/bans self
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
by Ben Swanson on Feb 8, 2012 12:19 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
serious questions after the game
How many games does RWill score 20 do we reconsider the starting 2 spot?
If we get Davis, does this affect Tyrus’ or BBs future here?
Thoughts?
Reggie should replace Maggette in the starting lineup, not Hendo.
"People are gonna respect the Panthers, and I want what I do as a quarterback to be scary. I want people to be in fear. I want it, and I’m gonna get it."
- Carolina Panthers Franchise Quarterback
definitely.
Reggie at the 3 is more fitting than at the 2, where guards can exploit their advantages in quickness and agility
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
Here's what Im asking
the whole dynamic changes if we switch Reggie to the 3. Some would say that it wouldnt but it def does. In the last couple games, Reggie has shown that he has a nack for passing and directing traffic. Which in turn, takes the assist load totally off of Walker (Est himself as more of a scorer at the PG position). With Williams moving out of the backcourt into the front court, the dynamic of that changes as in most cases he’ll be getting the ball from a half court set, shortening his vision (he’s no Steve Nash or CP3) which could cut his assist (which equal points) down. Plus the sets that allowed him to score in the manner he did were drawn up for the SG. With Kemba not being the best passer and Hendo not being the best shooter, IMO Reggie stats suffer. Im into riding the wave the way it is until it crumbles. Just my take.
Reggie Williams is not Lebron....
But couldn’t he do the same things Bron does at the 3 in terms of facilitating? Why would that part of his game have to change? We’re never going to ask him to play in the paint and back people down. 1-2-3 are all wing payers in today’s NBA. The difference for Reggie primarily comes on the defensive end of the floor.
Not getting my point
He isnt Lebron. And Lebron actually has sets drawn up for him to do those type of things. Im just asking (only if Williams continues to play like this of course. not based solely off two games) why would you change it? Not saying that you think it is but its not a video game. When players play out of position or move from the position that they flourish at, its not as easy as saying “the 1-2-3 are wing positions in todays NBA”…moving from one position to the next actually affects some players it may not be drastic but enough to notice the difference. Also, you cant sit here and tell me there is no affect of coming out of the backcourt and starting from the front court. There is a difference.
I don't see how a positional definition dictates his play
He can be the secondary ball handler behind DJ/Kemba from the 3 and Hendo can be the off the ball guy at the 2. You basically are matching him up on a 3 for defensive purposes.
It certainly affects Tyrus.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
by FirstCat on Feb 8, 2012 8:21 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree with your assessment of Mullens' defense.
I thought he hit the boards pretty hard, had the only two steals on our team, and even altered a few shots down low (even if he didn’t have a block). I feel like his reputation as a defender preceded him last night, which cast a negative shadow over how much effort he actually showed on that end of the floor.
"People are gonna respect the Panthers, and I want what I do as a quarterback to be scary. I want people to be in fear. I want it, and I’m gonna get it."
- Carolina Panthers Franchise Quarterback
eh
I saw some pretty poor help defense. As for man d, it’s no easy matchup to guard KG, and he did fine for his talent level on defense, but KG still looked about 4 or 5 years younger against him and scored easily against him
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
Mullens' baseline defense
is still really atrocious, along with his help d, but he did get some nice rebounds – except i’m not sure rebounds really count as a defensive thing
My Post-game Comments...
KG is a punk…nice to see DJ White stand up to him.
Pierce IS an actress…Tyrus should have beat him down.
Diaw is complete garbage…Celtics players were running free to the rim, BUT when he gets in the paint, he wants to make unnecessary passes. The Coach needs to sit him down.
R Williams is a natural scorer, but what I like most about him is his leadership on the floor. He directs the offense and does a lot of talking with the players.
Obviously, this game would have been more competitive if we had everyone healthy.
Here’s to 3-63!!
You had me on every single comment until...
Here’s to 3-63!!

"People are gonna respect the Panthers, and I want what I do as a quarterback to be scary. I want people to be in fear. I want it, and I’m gonna get it."
- Carolina Panthers Franchise Quarterback
Lol...
It’s just hard for me to go into a game and think we’re actually going to win. I’m ashame to say I’ve become one of those fans that gets excited when the Wizards win, we lose, even though the #1 pick isn’t guaranteed.
(I usually don’t watch college basketball until March Madness…now I’m tracking and looking for highlights of Davis, Drummond and Barnes…pathetic, I know.)
I thought he was considered to be a top 3 pick...
He’s a little slow and stiff IMO, but apparently can score from anywhere. We need a SF and we need scoring…
MKG if we cant get Davis
Although I’d rather get MKG anyhow. I still think we can get out of Amp Randolph BASICALLY what we get out of Davis. For probably cheaper in this case…
I think I'm with you on MKG
He just keeps getting better, plays harder than everyone else, and wants to win more than anything.
he was a monster last night
davis was a beast late in the game to put it away (along with wiltjer who probably won’t go pro this year, so not really worth discussing beyond that)
I agree that MKG is better than Barnes.
But I’m not sure who I want for the long run. If Barnes could become aggressive…
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
I know that.
I want to make sure MKG has a consistent jumper before taking him high lottery though.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
He already
does everything Barnes does but the difference is MKG SHOWS UP EVERY NITE
I love MKG
But he shoots 28% on 3s, where Barnes hits at 44%. Arguing he shoots better than Barnes is utterly ridiculous.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 8, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
MKG
will contribute in multiple categories and never gives up on a play
surely he’d do enough to negate a few extra points per game from barnes – he’s the minutes leader on the nation’s best team for a reason
I agree
But saying he is better at everything is not accurate. Barnes is definitely a better shooter.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I wasn't referring to you :)
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Lets see something: WARNING (Bragging)
Andre Emmitt, Elijah Milsap, Brandon Costner and Greg Smith
Jeff Foote and Edwin Ubiles….
What do these players have in common? 3 things. I’ll give you a hint:
1. They are in the d-league
2. They are in the d-league allstar game
3. Most Important: They are players that I NAMED before the season ever started…
Oneday you guys will listen…Bring us Milsap or Ubiles…
I do appreciate your humility
Because God knows being in the D-League All-Star game is such a great honor. I bet they’ll be telling their grandkids about that one.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 9:50 AM EST up reply actions
Oh..you must be one of those
in most cases the being in the D-League is a coaching decision. We wouldve had some d-leaguers too. Would you have felt the same about our players that were supposed to be sent to the d-league. I think its a post about this in another thread.
It is just the D-League
And looking at the list of past D-League All-Stars, I only see about 10-12 guys out of 100 who have ever contributed much of anything at the NBA level.
If Im not mistaken
this LINSANITY started in the d-league. Had it not been for the d-league he wouldve been bounced around to a few other teams… just give the guys a chance. And dont BENCH them when you call’em up. Let them play…
lin actually played for golden state
before being sent down to Reno, then being called back up later in the year
you’re missing the point – excelling in the d-league does not mean a player will translate to the NBA, the talent pool is considerably thin
Rod Benson dominated the D-League and could never make the NBA
the D-League is a place for players who don’t have all the necessary skills (in some way shape or form) to compete in the NBA on a regular basis to develop those skills. Bismack Biyombo, for example, would be a great D-League candidate
Greg Smith just signed with the Rockets today.
FINALLY – when the hell are you going to realize that we’re not NBA GMS? Do we sign these players to the Bobcats? No – we don’t. So why should we waste our time giving a flip about them… when/if they get signed to the Bobcats then we can concern ourselves with them.
So please SHUT UP ABOUT IT. Go brag to Jordan, Higgins and Cho because none of us give a crap.
by adamcawa on Feb 9, 2012 12:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I dont care what you guys care about
Of course you guys cant sign players. And Im glad. We’d have Taylor Griffin and no Reggie Williams and no Mullens. And we’d probably have no wins. Anyhow, I love basketball. I love the work and dedication that it takes to get to a level. I HATE the fact that players dont get chances. I Hate the fact that a team with players like BB and TT, Hendo, Higgins and Derrick Brown actually have fans that downplay the d-league like our players are so much better. They are not. Players arent always in the d-league bc they are missing something. Very good players from terrible schools end up in the d-league. Players who didnt go to college end up in the d-league. Players who didnt get to touch the ball alot but are just as good as that LOTTO pick end up in the d-league. Players who get hurt end up in the d-league. Players who want to finish college end up in the d-league. Players who had attitudes and made mistakes in college end up in the d-league. Our best player at this point is a d-league call up. Jeremy Lin didnt get much burn with Golden State. He got picked up by HOU waived and ended up in the d-league again with the Knicks. Im glad our fans didnt get wind of him bc we wouldve crushed his confidence with silly comments such as “He’s played for such and such amount of teams already” or “He’s been to the d-league twice so that means he automatically sucks”…look at him now. All he do is Lin Lin Lin no matter what!!!!
i didnt read all of this
but i read the first line and the last few lines
im curious as to how many wins do you think reggie williams and byron mullens have contributed to this team?
reggie williams is a definate zero, how much did mullens contribute in our wins?
also, i love jeremy lin and would’ve loved to have him on our team – in fact, ben just made a post showing how much he liked jeremy lin, too, from last season, even
stop assuming you know what any or everyone of us is thinking at any given time – and please for the love of god stop assuming that every single nba team doesn’t have a full time d-league scout… it’s not just the Bobcats overlooking these players, is it?
Im sure you didnt
Reggie Williams wouldnt have contributed to the close game against the Heat? Really. Not saying we wouldve won but really, all things considered, Im assuming he wouldve done better than Derrick Brown. The second NYK game. The Chicago game. The Orlando game. The Washington game. Im sure if he was in action with a healthy Hendo and DJ. All these games we lost by no more than 8pts. I just think he wouldve contributed to those and maybe 4 or those wouldve been W’s. And as much as you guys wanna downplay Mullens, he has contributed overall more than Diaw, Diop and BB combined so far. Unless we wanna talk about blocks. And it doesnt matter if any team has d-league scouts. We dont give the “stand outs” any chances. And thats the point Im trying to make.
newsflash
reggie williams didnt contribute anything in the close game against the heat, or any of those other games
we signed him and he immediatly had surgery
so techincally, even though i don’t recall anyone being adamently against getting reggie williams (i imagine the only thing people argued about was the role he’d play on the team), Taylor Griffin would’ve contributed more in all of those games than Reggie Williams did
You said
you dont think Reggie contributed to any wins. And Im telling you how much different our record would be had he played. And Taylor Griffin probably wouldve made us worse. Oh and Elijah Milsap wouldve helped us too lol…
actually i think reggie would have hurt us if he played
considering he had to have surgery to fix his shoulder, I’d be willing to bet he would have had a marathon of bricks had he played.
Point being, he either played injured or didn’t play because of the surgery so your point there isn’t possible.
Left brained
listen…Im saying if Reggie wouldve played then. Im talking about at the level he is playing now. In any of those games, we wouldve been better. And since we are gonna find anyway to refute FOCUS, then I’ll leave it at this, Elijah Milsap wouldve helped us more than Derrick Brown…
he didn't play
period
there’s nothing else to be said about it
also, i doubt elijah milsap would ever go 10/10 in an NBA game – just sayin’
but what you are proposing
is in all facets impossible. Its not like we signed him late and you could say “if we had him 2 weeks earlier.” We had him and there is no if involved. He couldn’t play for anyone.
No sense in using that argument.
Lin played all of *1* D-League game
Granted, he played great in that 1 d-league game (28 points, 11 boards, 12 assists, 2 steals), but it’s hard to talk about how much the d-league helped him when he only played one game in the d-league.
Personally, I would love to give a d-league player a chance. Millsap’s intrigued me for a while since I caught wind of him while he was in college, but I don’t think there’s any realistic chance to expect management to call-up a d-league player, which is a shame considering all of our injuries.
by Jordan's10YearPlan on Feb 9, 2012 11:28 PM EST up reply actions
I loved this adam
Rec’d
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
Guess this is a
bad time to talk about the emergence of my boy Alonzo Gee huh? Big time factor on a near playoff team…They add one of them Lambs or Beal and they gon be serious…avg 13ppg 3rebs 1.6steals…shooting 47% from the field and 47% from 3 in last 5 games…good job my man.
this matters because?
the bobcats at some point ever had a shot at him? were we supposed to be the ONE team to draft him over all of the other teams? were we supposed to make a trade for him with no way whatsoever to determine his actual value?
for that matter, was his 32 minutes, 7 point, 25% shooting 3 turnover game against the Clippers relevent in some way? i mean, seriously, you’re gushing over a guy who had a few nice games in a week as if he’d change anything on the Bobcats this season
Yes, it is usual
For most people to hate idiots who constantly thump their chests over worthless accomplishments.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this lol
although i don’t like to use the word hate
Fair enough. How about loathe?
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
Because I found a list of every player ever named to the D-League All Star teams
A lot of names I have never heard before and a lot that haven’t been heard from since college.
No offense.
But it’s not that hard to name a few good D-Leaguers…
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
He actually got a chance
A chance to PLAY. Not garbage minutes. But actually PLAY…if you look at the d-leaguers who actually got to play, then there is a trend. Reggie Williams, Azibuike, Will Bynum, Matt Barnes, Chuck Hayes, Martell Webster, Shannon Brown, Von Wafer, Blatche, Aaron Brooks, Jordan Farmar, Gortat, Sessions, Barea, Bass, Rafer Alston, Jamario Moon. No there are no Magic Johnsons but all these players have had that moment in the sun in which they contributed over stretches and seasons. With the exception of Moon.
Look, I'm not saying players in the D-League can't be good in the NBA
What I’m saying that success in the D-Legaue does not necessarily translate to success in the NBA. And a couple of the names you mentioned were NBA players that were assigned to the D-League for a time.
beyond that
i think every single bobcats fan would rather see us call up someone from the d-league instead of playing cory higgins, so i don’t know what you’re deal is?
do you know what every single one of those d-leaguers have in common? 0 all-star appearances between them
we are all quite aware that you can find a solid contributer or two per season from the D-League and, indeed, a few D-Leaguers might be better than players we have, but that’s more of an indictment against the Bobcats than support for the D-League
not to mention, it doesn’t make much financial sense for any NBA team to cut a player with a guarunteed contract to put in a d-leaguer, regardless of how bad that player is, because unlike the NFL, they’re owed their entire contract, not just that current season’s – so yeah, I bet we could get a lot of players who are better than Matt Carroll, but why pay money to not have him here?
yes teams are smart to use the d-league to supplant injuries and roster openings, and the Bobcats are dumb for not doing so, but it’s not like every NBA team is in the same situation we were in
It's hard to debate that honestly
MKG is certainly a safer bet than Barnes. Although to be fair, I think Barnes has a greater ceiling. I sort of get a hunch Barnes is one of those guys whose game is better suited for the pros than college.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
keep in mind MKG is only a freshman
his FG% and FT% are both higher than Barnes’ (in his second year, way higher than Barnes’ as a freshmen) on a team that goes 6 deep in scorers with 5 players in double figures and a 6th with 9.7 PPG
12.6 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 2.2 apg, 1.2 spg, 1.1 bpg, 2.3 topg
.479 FG%, .756 FT%, .2893PT%
The turnovers and the 3pt% aren’t so hot, but everything else is fantastic for a freshman.
Hey, I'd take MKG over Barnes
But you are certifiably insane if you think front offices should only focus on who a player is and not what he can become. Using the production logic, Orlando would have taken Okafor over Howard easily. And it would have been a bad move.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 10, 2012 9:56 AM EST up reply actions
Not really
KG was better in high school than any other player in college other than Joe Smith. It was what he had already done. MKG is younger and better than Barnes. What is there to think about. And MKG plays until the horn. Barnes doesnt. He wouldve been better coming out last year. He aint proved much this season…
I'm kind of hoping we don't have to take either..
(Davis or Drummond)
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."

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