Growing Anger Over Cory Higgins
by Panthers FTW on Feb 6, 2012 9:35 AM EST
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PrintAfter reading this terrific piece by Scott Schroeder, I started thinking about Cory Higgins. Early in the season, I didn't really care. I mean, cool, there's some nepotism going on, but it's not that big a deal. I also didn't care about Cory Higgins at all until just a little while ago. However, once it was brought to my attention he was on a unguaranteed contract, I started actually using my brain. What exactly does Cory Higgins bring to our team? As I thought about all I've seen from him, I decided he brings absolutely nothing to our team. He has nearly no upside and his current game isn't exactly racks on racks on racks. So now the nepotism gets a little grating. On a team so devoid of talent, why should he be given a chance over guys like Manny Harris or Ben Uzoh? I'm under no impression these guys are ever going to be very good NBA players. I just don't see it. But I am under the impression I'd be far more inclined to give them a chance to be good NBA players than Cory Higgins, because I don't see him ever being part of our future. Right now, my Higgins anger is at a 6, mainly because in the end it's probably never going to matter and I have more important things to be worried about. However, c'mon FO, please cut Cory Higgins before his contract becomes guaranteed make it a revolving door for 10 day contracts. If you do this, our collective health as a fan base will be much better.
If for some reason the FO doesn't, I don't want to hear about it. I swear to God if someone feels the need to bring it up every time we talk about our FO I will probably get way angrier than I have any right to get. Sure, it's pretty obvious neptotism, but in the grand scheme of things, Cory Higgins not getting cut isn't going to make or break this franchise.
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I really need a 4th response
“The world is full of apathy and I don’t care.”
It’s one spot. Does it make a difference this year? Absolutely not. Could we possibly get better by cutting him and signing other players? Maybe. We certainly can’t get any worse unless they sign me for a 10-day contract. If we do get better, would it be enough to make any difference? Heck no.
Hence why I’m apathetic.
I feel you on that completely.
Which is why my anger will fade even if he isn’t cut. It probably wouldn’t make much of a difference in the long run. But honestly, we need to take every advantage we can use to make us better, and Cory Higgins is < the D-League guards mentioned in the article I linked to.
If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personal and hate you forever.
by Panthers FTW on Feb 6, 2012 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
And at this stage in our development...
Do we have room to blow opportunities to accumulate talent?
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
I would think we'd be going through players as fast as some change underwear...
combing talent to find 1 that sticks instead of just sticking with what we have
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Feb 8, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
this is probably the reason he's on the team
the season is lost, no one player is going to save it, especially a d-leaguer or undrafted rookie, why not give the spot to a family member and let him earn some money before he takes the long path to assistant coaching somewhere
absolutely
have no interest in him being on this team.
YOU GOT BISMACKED!
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I do think there are 5-10 players in the D-League right now that could play better and more consistently than Higgins
In a year where we’re not even close to competing on most nights, let alone contending, I think it makes sense to use the 10-day contract round-robin to find a quality bench guy. I mean why not?
by Aisander D on Feb 6, 2012 11:54 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
That's pretty much my position on the issue right now.
If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personal and hate you forever.
by Panthers FTW on Feb 6, 2012 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
I fully agree
not only that, but the D-league is an incredibly under utilized facet of the NBA. I know they’re completely different, but the NHL/AHL system is spectacular and does a wonderful job rotating players up which gives a lot of guys opportunities to play at a higher level that wouldn’t normally. Allowing teams to find a diamond in the rough every now and then. While I think it’s still a busted system, and needs to be ratified to better fit the needs of the teams, it’s still something a team like the Bobcats isn’t going to get any worse by trying.
YOU GOT BISMACKED!
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by HAWKEYESBABY on Feb 6, 2012 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
it seems like
the hurricances call up a checker every other week
injuries, tryouts, and
“10 day contracts” It’s actually a solid system.
YOU GOT BISMACKED!
Vernon Davis=all your Roman Harpers are belong to us.
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Well, if we cut him
We need to sign someone who can play PG, at least in a pinch. I’m with Tim here on the apathy angle.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 6, 2012 12:14 PM EST reply actions
who in their right mind,
thought we’d miss Garrett Temple?
YOU GOT BISMACKED!
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by HAWKEYESBABY on Feb 6, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
There are 2-3 PGs in the D-League that could be a good short term fit.
And that, at least, know how to run offensive sets.
in fairness to higgins
from what i’ve seen, he knows how to run an offense better than kemba
of course, that’s not much of an accomplishment at this point
What?
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
by FirstCat on Feb 6, 2012 4:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
disagree all you want
but show me one highlight of kemba actually running our offense
this was meant to be a knock on kemba
not a compliment to higgins
the offense
especially the half court offense, grinds to almost an utter halt, he doesn’t set his teammates up well, and paul silas doesn’t even want to run half court… kemba is clearly better at running the floor, yet can’t get the team to do so when he’s on the floor, although i’ll give him the benefit of the doubt there, since not even paul silas can get them to run
at first, i thought mullens was just terrible on the pick and roll, but he hasn’t really shown great pick and roll passing skills regardless of the pick man
and he takes bad shots when we can least afford them
on more than one occasion he’s overdriven the lane and forced his teammates to run baseline to prevent a turnover and, outside of one game, hasn’t been particularly adept at finding the three point shooter – although it’s not like anyone is gonna make it anyway, right now
by adamcawa on Feb 6, 2012 9:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Okay
It’s just that I see people blaming Kemba for his teammates not moving when he’s trying to run the offense as if he’s supposed to use some sort of mind control to move players around. I have seen him miss open teammates, and I hope he goes back and studies his game and makes note of those. But I have also seen him get teammates open looks only to have them miss. He may never be a top tier distributor, but I think he can become respectable in that facet of the game.
After watching every game this season, it is clear that Kemba’s ability to dish the ball on the drive has improved drastically. The only reason Augustin has higher assist number is due to the team’s ability to hit jumper early in the season. (Mullens, White, Hendo.) It’s hard to get assists if your team can’t shoot.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
you mean the night he had
a triple double?
YOU GOT BISMACKED!
Vernon Davis=all your Roman Harpers are belong to us.
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Just like the one James Posey had once.
Or Chris Duhon.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
he asked for ONE example.
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Vernon Davis=all your Roman Harpers are belong to us.
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Yeah, and I gave two more of a couple of elite distributors who also had triple-doubles.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Was it in their rookie year?
I honestly don’t know
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Feb 8, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
Or Shaun Livingston...
Oh, wait.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 2:38 AM EST up reply actions
Its best if we let him go
there is no explainable reason to keep him around. Uzoh was D-league player of the month? Get him back. 10 day contracts should be all we do from here on out. We need to be sure that at the deadline we have room just in case something substantial comes along. If we do keep Higgins, then I will really question the decision making of our front office…
I can't be the only one that want's to see us pull a blockbuster trade.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
it's hard to pull a blockbuster trade
when you don’t have much to offer
the last thing we can afford to do is get rid of our number one pick unless we can get a superstar for it
LOL
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
If's not gonna happen.
The only assests we have are Augustin and our draft picks. We’re not giving away the top pick for anything short of LeBron.
If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personal and hate you forever.
Seriously dude?
Lebron? Its so many players I’d give our pick away for. Anthony Davis is a beast in college. But its a few players that I’d just say screw it and throw the pick at…Monta Ellis is one. Blake Griffin is another. Bargnani (sp?). Lamarcus. Paul George. Roy Hibbert.
if you'd honestly throw away our number one pick for monta ellis
then i’d say there is no hope for you to ever hop out of the realm of fantasy
or bargnani or george or hibbert
If we traded our top pick for any of those guys.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Except for Lamarcus and Blake.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
you didn't have to explain yourself lol
that’s why i didn’t include them in my post, either
You're just now realizing that?
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 8, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
You wouldnt trade a 1st rd pick for Monta Ellis? Serious? Wow
not OUR first round pick, no
for a late first round pick, absolutely
but he’s not worth a 1-5 pick
i like monta ellis, he can score, and when he protects the ball he’s one of the best guards in the league – he also attacks the lanes on defense
just you hope with a top 5 pick you’re getting a player that will turn a franchise around and i don’t see that in monta ellis
plus you can’t understand a word the guy says
not anyone in this draft
just thomas robinson… the superstar player will probably be lingering around 12 and 24
Thomas Robinson
was Dick Vitale’s player of the year until he saw Anthony Davis in person against Vanderbilt. He is sky-rocketing up draft boards since no one really saw him coming. We shouldn’t be taking him over Davis but I wouldn’t bat an eye if we took him over Drummond or Sullinger or Barnes or even MKG.
Really, I’m not sure why he hasn’t been mentioned by us more often when we mention guys like Drummond and Sullinger, because the guy’s a baller. I think my excuse is that I have tunnel vision on Anthony Davis so everyone else is kind of secondary.
Really?
I sure would. 6’10 SG/SF…great all around production. I thought you guys liked “upside”. Paul George is the POSTERCHILD of this UPSIDE. No player in the draft is better than Paul George. NONE…
yeah that 12.2 points in 30 minutes a game are MVP status
he’s also only 6’8"
if you think Paul George is better after 2 seasons in the NBA than Anthony Davis is RIGHT NOW, then … well nevermind, it should be expected coming from you
Can 10 day contracts be signed now?
In a regular season you have to wait until a certain date. Is that true in the compressed season?
think it's after the trade
deadline, but I could be completely wrong.
YOU GOT BISMACKED!
Vernon Davis=all your Roman Harpers are belong to us.
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, Charlotte Checkers, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
That date was today (Monday.)
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions
I would be interested in seeing the availability of Wilson Chandler once the Chinese season is over.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
We will have competition...
And his first choice is to go back to Denver, whom he believes will offer him a long-term deal. It may be the sort of situation like when the Cavs used us to get Varejao signed long-term, and he may not have any shot at ending up anywhere else.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 2:42 AM EST up reply actions
Good article...
But I will note I was mocked for bringing up this very issue some weeks ago.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
I was going to link to you when I mentioned the revolving door with the last roster spot.
I couldn’t find it.
Let’s just say people are more inclined to listen when someone has established better pathos.
If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personal and hate you forever.
by Panthers FTW on Feb 7, 2012 10:27 AM EST up reply actions
It actually goes back further than that:
1/11/12:
On principle alone, we should be furious that the team has again used relationships, rather than ability, as the trigger for a personnel move. As bad as this team is, there is no reason whatsoever that roster spot should not be being used on a player who is young, holds potential for the future, and has the enough CURRENT ability to actually get in the games.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 7, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
If I ever get furious over how the Bobcats use their 15th roster spot
Please remind me to check my priorities.
6 feet of Smooth
by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
i feel you
but substitute “backup point guard” for “15th roster spot” and it does, indeed, sting considerably more
Only because of injury
He is really the 3rd string PG. A terrible one at that.
6 feet of Smooth
by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 9, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions
Homeless man’s Shaun Livingston.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Homeless and AIDS-afflicted.
Hi, my name is Michael Procton, and I will mindf*** you with logical yet (often) pessimistic retorts until the cows come home. Good Day.
--by Aisander D on Feb 4, 2012 7:59 PM EST
I gotta stop takin' my baths durin' Peter's shenanigans.
by MichaelProcton on Feb 12, 2012 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Kinda makes me question
is DJ still really hurt or are they keeping him out “longer than expected” just so Higgins JR will get a guaranteed contract?
No, I strongly doubt that.
Especially since we’ll have DJ on the trading block. If Higgins was really worried about getting DJ a guaranteed contract, the easiest way to do it is to trade DJ and make Higgins Jr. indispensable that way.
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