3 team trade scenario with the Rockets and Lakers
by 111 on Feb 13, 2012 1:21 PM EST
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PrintHere's what each team convey:
Rockets - Big Man
Lakers - Point Guard
Bobcats - Any kind of offense
Rockets Trade: Kevin Martin, Johnny Flynn, Luis Scola, and Hasheem Thabeet
Rockets Receive: Pau Gasol, Boris Diaw, and Matt Barnes
Lakers Trade: Pau Gasol and Matt Barnes
Lakers Receive: Luis Scola, Hasheem Thabeet, and DJ Augustin
Bobcats Trade: DJ Augustin and Boris Diaw
Bobcats Receive: Kevin Martin and Johnny Flynn
Why would each team would do this trade?
Rockets: It is no surprise that the Rockets have been looking for a star caliber big man to build around since Yao Ming retired with his foot injuries. Pau Gasol is one of the top centers in the NBA and with 3 years left in his contract and at 31 years of age, he will be off the books right if his age catches up to him. Moving Kevin Martin could also unleash some of the talent that are backed up in the Rockets bench, as well as ridding themselves of a defensive liability. Getting Boris Diaw will give them yet another option at the pf position, but more importantly he is in his contract year and it will free up some cap space as he will be off the books and take all $9 mil off the cap. Matt Barnes is a complementary piece that will give the team some fire of the bench.
Lakers: They are in big need of a point guard right now, so much of a need that they are even looking at Gilbert Arenas and Rafer Alston. While there will be a drop off by losing Pau Gasol, they will get a much better PG in DJ Augustin. The Lakers will also receive Luis Scola and Hasheem Thabeet from the Rockets whom will help shore up the front lines after losing Gasol. Scola can almost match Gasol's scoring ability at the PF position and move Bynum to the Center position.
Bobcats: This team is the most offensively challenged team in the league. Some of this is attributed to injuries, but much of this is simply due to the lack of offensive talent. Although Kevin Martin is one of the worst defensive players in the league not named Carmelo Anthony, Martin is absolutely a lethal weapon on the offensive end. Unlike most high scoring players who holds on to the ball, Martin is one of the best in the league at moving around the floor without the ball which could help Kemba Walker out a lot. By adding Johnny Flynn they will fill the void at the backup pg position left by DJ Augustin. Boris Diaw at this point is probably seen by the league as just an expiring contract, the guy plays with no sense of urgency and is very laissez-faire on the court. Bobcats fans would be excited just to see him gone.
I tried this trade on ESPN NBA Trade Machine and all the numbers check out fine. Let me know your thoughts.
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No Johnny Flynn
I like it, but we don’t need a Johnny Flynn type PG… another 6 footer n a defensive liability
I am not a huge fan of Flynn either, but we need to get a PG back if we trade DJ.
I would prefer getting Goran Dragic from Rockets or Andrew Goudelock from Lakers, but they probably won’t be willing to move them.
We can’t discount the fact that Flynn is only 23 and averaged 13.5 pts and 4.4 asts in his rookie year. The guy has talent, he needs some coaching to improve his decision making.
Li Zheng
This is a much better idea than most we usually hear.
I also don’t love Johnny Flynn, but it could be worse.
my thoughts exactly....
i dont want our only alternative at pg to be Cory Higgins.
Li Zheng
not a bad trade
but what role will hendo play when he’s back from injury? also, i’d rather have steve blake
You had me at Trade Diaw...
Seriously, I like the trade, but I’m not sure the Lakers would want DJ’s lack of defense. Also, I’m a Pro-Hendo-starting at SG Fan. Not sure Kevin Martin would come off the bench.
I don't think DJ's defense is any worse than what Derek Fisher is giving the Lakers right now.
I’m a Gerald Henderson fan as well, he quietly gets work done every night. But this is about giving our team’s offense some spark right now. I also don’t believe DJ will resign with us, we can make him a qualifying offer for next year, but I think that’s it, we should try to get something for him while we can.
Li Zheng
Here's another idea from BleacherReport.com
Lakers send Luke Walton, Josh McRoberts, Darius Morris and a 2012 first-round pick to the Bobcats for Tyrus Thomas and D.J. Augustin.
Li Zheng
I would absolutely do this
Although I’m not sure the Lakers would want to give up that much. For us, it clears the plate after next season and nets us an extra pick.
The first trade I don’t love so much. I think it’s a good return for those guys but it screws up Hendo and I doubt very seriously we’ll be in the market for extending Martin to some ridiculous close-to-max deal he’ll probably want next summer. Heck, he’ll make $13 million next season!
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by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 13, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
I just one something to happen so that we don't let our expiring contracts walk for nothing if we can flip them for something.
I am a Hendo supporter as well, but if we can get a scorer like Martin it will help our defensive woes. Hendo can always move over to the SF position and we could flip Maggette to a contender for late 1st round draft pick.
Li Zheng
Rather the 6'7 Martin at SF than Hendo.
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THIS!
Luke Walton is considerably overpaid for the production he (doesn’t) bring (anymore), but he’s off the books in two years. I’d do this for a second round pick instead of a first, if it became a deal breaker. Seriously, I’d consider just sending DJ and Tyrus for a first and second rounder, without the throw-ins, if it were at all possible.
That's probably the only reason the Bobcats would take his contract
Tyrus is on the books for 4 more years while Luke is on there for 2 more
Li Zheng
that's better than any other reason anyway
so who cares if it’s the only reason lol
any way we could get houston's 1st instead of flynn?
who cares if higgens is our backup pg the rest of this year?? theres no point of winning anymore games…we r in full tank mode
they've got 2 1st rounders, so they may very well be willing to part with 1 one of them
I would love to see our team trade assets for draft picks, especially this year’s draft class. Someone who gets picked in the middle of the 1st round this year would have easily been top-10 pick in last year’s draft.
Li Zheng
If not top 5 ie. Terrence Jones.
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Why don't we just trade for this guy....
I’d love to have this guy at our games, would make it more fun, that’s for sure…
by jonnyplastic@yahoo.com on Feb 14, 2012 1:16 AM EST reply actions
I want picks, not players like Flynn and Martin.
If you disagree with my opinion, I will take it personally.
this deal works for us
But unfortunately I’m not sure why the Lakers would do this trade…… Gasol’s play is a little down this season but I still don’t think Scola and DJ come close to Gasol in value no matter what their PG troubles are – just feel like if they want to deal Gasol they can get much better back in a deal than Scola and DJ but that’s just me.
Heck I would even take it a step further and if we could then flip Kevin Martin for a front court player I would do it so it doesnt create a logjam with Gerald/RWill. We’re just so weak in the front court that’s our biggest problem.
Thabeet
I know he hasnt proven anything yet.. but he never has received a true opportunity. I mean no one thought Mullens will be good bench center in this league. Thabeet would be good backup for Bismack and he has expiring contract. He could be worth a look for couple months.
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I'd rather have Hill...
He was starting to come into his own this year. I was shocked that HOU didnt extend him…
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