Draft Thoughts...
by TigerNavy on Jan 5, 2012 6:31 PM EST
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If the Bobcats get the #1 pick in this years draft, who should they take?
2.) Draft for those positions or draft best available player?
3.) Who would you like to see?
I'm thinking:
1.) In order...True Center, SF, SG
2.) Those positions (Has a good potential to be the best available player anyway)
3.) Andre Drummond, Jeremy Lamb, Harrison Barnes
Let me know what you guys are thinking. I am sure there are plenty of college/overseas players that I'm not aware of.
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I love Andre Drummond...
But if the draft was tonight, I personally think Anthony Davis would have to be the pick…he is playing like a beast right now, even though he is a bit of a tweener. But either one of those would be good choices. A true starting C is our biggest need…then a SF.
I've missed more than 9000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life. And that is why I succeed. - Michael Jordan
I agree with you here.
In our position, we gotta take whoever the best player is.
by Panthers FTW on Jan 6, 2012 12:32 AM EST up reply actions
Pretty obvious C and SF are are top needs
If we have a Perkins caliber center, good but not great, and a shot-making 3, we rally have a lot of the other pieces here. Kemba will be a solid 1, Hendo has been channeling his inner Kobe lately, and we certainly paid TT enough to be a good PF. Plus the Biz and Mullins off the bench… Thank God for Cho, finally looks like we have a plan
"You're F**king Out!" - KP
Davis is not a center
Henson and Davis are same player and Henson is considered PF. Davis will be a PF in the league. Our pick should be Barnes or Perry Jones or Drummond. Drummond (if picked) and Mullens will hold down the 5 spot for years. 4 will be held down by TT and Biyombo (maybe white). The 3 has no one right now for the future so i would take Barnes or Jones ahead of anyone but drummond. Kidd-Gilcrist looks really good too
i have still not seen
one expert project Davis as a PF…. his arms are way too long to not be a C at 6’10"
unlike Henson, Davis is still putting on weight and techincally he could still grow an inch or so
Every expert I've seen projects Davis as a Center
What does arm length have to do with anything? The Biz has long arms as well, but he’s no C.
if arm length matter than rondo and chalmers would be PF..
they both have around 7 foot wingspan
"I don’t want to shoot my mouth in my foot, but those are games we can win."
still putting on weight?
im pretty sure there is no time in your life where you stop putting on weight. Ask Diaw and Diop
"I don’t want to shoot my mouth in my foot, but those are games we can win."
What about Marcus Camby? He plays center and he is a thin guy. When the talent evaluators say guys can still put on weight they mean in the since that it wouldn’t be abnormal or make them fat. They can put on solid muscle mass without losing a whole lot of athletic ability easy
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by gunnin' gervin on Jan 8, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I know its not "draft"
but does anyone oppose to signing Anthony Randolph in the offseason? Isnt he everything these other guys are? And I say this bc you said Camby and I think he’s a “Camby” type Center
Nah Randolph isn’t like Camby my man. Camby knew he was a big man while Randolph still thinks he can play the 3. The good thing about Randolph is he is still fairly young so he can get better but I don’t think he will
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by gunnin' gervin on Jan 9, 2012 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
If we get #1....
We trade down to #3. Add another pick (or young player) and select Barnes to be our SF of the future. Ideally.
If I’m stuck at #1 (a nice problem) I gotta take Drummond.
I’m not sold on the pro prospects of Davis, Sullinger, and Lamb as a #1 pick. I like Davis…I get the hype… but I think he will not have it as easy in the NBA and won’t be a franchise type-guy.
by mives36 on Jan 5, 2012 7:37 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Drummond and Barnes
Are the franchise talents from this group, in my humble opinion….
by mives36 on Jan 5, 2012 7:44 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking the exact same thing last night during the game. What if Byron mullens becomes a real center? Is Biz a PF or a center? I’m saying we go with Barnes/Davis/Drummond (not in that order). I’m a heavy Barnes lean so far……I think…..
by Rvdbbw on Jan 5, 2012 8:43 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Barnes
Clutch shooter that fills our need for a small forward, a go-to player and he is an underrated defender…I just love his potential, needs to be more aggressive attacking the rim, but outside of that he could really special…
Agree
I think once Barnes is out of the UNC offensive system, and in an NBA system, he will flourish. He needs a Silas-like “grip it and rip it” type green light. He will be nice…bank it.
by mives36 on Jan 5, 2012 8:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For once I agree with you focus
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Jan 6, 2012 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
you'd be
alot farther along in life if you made this a habit lol
Ehhhh don't get too carried away
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Jan 6, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with you also Greensboro. I think Barnes is going to be a solid pro but it just seems he is more of a jump shooter.
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by gunnin' gervin on Jan 6, 2012 3:00 PM EST up reply actions
overall yes
Barnes has something we need.. a quality scorer. Dude can score in every way and on anyone.
Chances are that we won't be picking #1...
We’ll likely be just outside the top 5, but within the top 10. As usual.
So, I think it’s a bit hopeful to pretend that we’re picking #1 and painfully having to decide between Drummond, Barnes, and Sullinger.
With a top 10 pick, I think those players likely will be gone. My pick is Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. We desperately need a SF. Maggette is just a band aid. Kidd-Gilchrist is like a more athletic and aggressive Gerald Wallace. In my opinion, he’ll be much better than GW though. Kidd-Gilchrist is my pick for our pick. I think he’ll probably be better than Barnes.
MKG is pretty beast
Him or Barnes would be great.Is James McAdoo and Quincy Miller entering the draft this year>
Hey man, you must refer to him as James Michael McAdoo
And if he enters the draft this year, he will be waiting a LONG time to get his name called. To me, he looks like playing at Carolina is a little too big for him right now. He’ll need a few more years.
My heart pumps no Kool-Aid
by Bring Back Primoz on Jan 5, 2012 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
The blue tinted glasses worn by most Bobcats fans...
Will make them think that’s heresy.
I'm a diehard Tar Heel
But I like to think I can see the forest through the trees. That kid ain’t close to ready.
6 feet of Smooth
by Bring Back Primoz on Jan 7, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
JMM should not leave, that D1 game looks way too fast for him at this point. He would be better served coming back as the starting PF next year
"I don’t want to shoot my mouth in my foot, but those are games we can win."
Take Drummond and then LeBryan Nash
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Jan 6, 2012 12:03 AM EST reply actions
It has to be Anthony Davis.
And by Anthony Davis, I mean whoever the BPA is when we draft. As it stands, scouts are near unanimous the Anthony Davis is the best prospect, and everyone else is vying for #2.
It's the fierce uni-brow.
Once you see that thing…. it becomes a fixture of the mind!!!
by mives36 on Jan 6, 2012 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lol
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by gunnin' gervin on Jan 6, 2012 2:57 PM EST up reply actions
OMG
I hope he gets that shit fixed when he joins the league. I’m sure he wouldn’t like everybody wearing fake unibrow’s even if it is to show love to him. LOL
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 7, 2012 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
if he gets shoe deal
they could just put a Uni symbol on the shoe
"I don’t want to shoot my mouth in my foot, but those are games we can win."
LOL
You got jokes!!!!
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 7, 2012 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah Davis is a great player and I think if he can add muscle mass without losing too much athletic ability, he will be a very good NBA player
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 6, 2012 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
Jeremy Lamb
Is also a good player but he is more a 2 than a 3. If he was a few inches taller like around 6’7" he could play and be really good at the 3. He is a good defender and solid rebounder, not to mention he can score in a myriad of ways and shoots very efficiently.
Him and Kemba playing together again would also help each other become comfortable also.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
Lol
Lamb would play the 2 and he would start over Hendo. Are you guys scared to put Hendo on the bench or something?
I know he would but if you read my post you would see that I said he would be the perfect 3 if he was like two or three inches taller. You never know man, he might measure taller than the listed height they have him as. Stranger things have happened.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 8, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
I get you now
but I’d rather him play the position he is used to playing. He does so well that I wouldnt want to disturb the “feng shui” of the abilities he has now.
I understand you on that 100%.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 9, 2012 6:31 PM EST up reply actions
Perry Jones
has everyone forgot about him? dude has been killin it this year. He is so unselfish and still puts up stats. I would select him if he proves he can hit the J consistently, if not draft Harrison Barnes. I like Jeremy Lamb, but at 6’5 he is a SG, we need the 6’8 Barnes to fill our need. We all know Harrison is going to get a real good look by our front office because he bleeds carolina blue.
Jones is a tweener if there ever was the word. i mean he has the size to play power forward but the guy is softer than baby shit.
He doesn’t rebound well,defend or block shots for that matter and he loves shooting jumpers. S-O-F-T!!!!!! LOL. I mean he could get better and more aggressive once he gets to the NBA but if he can’t grab boards or play solid defense in college then I think the odds of him changing in the NBA is kind of rare
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 7, 2012 1:49 AM EST up reply actions
Don't count Perry out just yet...he's getting an undeserved bad rap right now
I’ve been watching all their games this year because of him and Quincy Miller. Baylor’s point guards are extremely inept at actually setting anybody up, and the coach does not do a good job of getting the ball into Jones’ hands. Everybody just sort of free-lances.
he does get a chance to shoot, his jumper is silky smooth, and he’s got legit NBA 3-point range. Complement that with a good post game, and I see him being a force offensively in the NBA. When he is in an NBA system that actually runs plays for him, and he has a real point guard, the sky is the limit. His lack of assertiveness is really just the result of a system that fails to showcase his skills.
Also, he grabs over 7 boards a game and gets about 1 block, so he’s not a total slouch in those areas. His defense is probably his weakest area, but it’s not all that bad, and he has the size/athleticism to improve
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I’m not talking about his offense as much as his defense and rebounding being bad for a big guy. If you aren’t a solid rebounder in collage then nine times out of ten you will not be one in the NBA. I know some people get better when they get to the pro’s but not being able to get almost ten boards a game with the minutes he plays is not a good sign for how tall he is.
Defensively don’t even get me started on how lost the dude looks a lot of times. Then you throw in the fact that with all of his athletic ability he is only blocking 1 shot a game and it just scares the hell out of me. I could understand if you are a guy who isn’t the greatest athlete in the world but he is a good athlete and he still doesn’t get blocks?
I’m not saying he can’t be a good player in the NBA but there are serious question marks about his game and drive which is even more scary. You don’t want a guy out there who doesn’t even like to play the sport. Time will tell though, it’s still a lot of games left and he might really turn it up a notch
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by gunnin' gervin on Jan 8, 2012 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Unless we pick top 5
we’re not getting Davis or Drummond
I personally don’t think Barnes has played like a top 5 pick this season, but we’ll see how does in ACC games and come tourney time.
That said, to answer the questions:
1 – Center, SF, Combo Gaurd are our biggest needs right now
2 – We draft for these positions, but since we pretty much need everything except a PG and PF, that makes it pretty easy.
3 – If Drummond, Davis, Sullinger are available we take them. Otherwise we take Michael-Kidd Gilchrest or Harrison Barnes, again, if they’re available. If we’re outside the top 5, we take a good hard look at guys like Moultrie from Mississippi State, Andre Roberson from Colorado, Doug McDermott from Creighton, and of course, Jeremy Lamb.
Right now, NBAdraft.net has us taking Lamb with the third pick, which to me seems unfathomable with MKG, Barnes, Sullinger and even Leonard still on the board.
There’s still a long college season to go, though, and with most conferences just now getting into conference play, we’ll be able to really see who has the skills we’re looking for.
Why would we draft Sullinger if we don’t need a power forward? That is his position and he is short for that in the NBA
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Jan 7, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
That combo guard crap
is something we made up. So we could justify ahead of time a reason to pick up Cory Higgins.
Draft plan
does anyone think we could possibly turn DJ+Diaw into a package that would net us a lottery pick in this draft? I would love to get a really high pick for once of the bigs then pick a winger as well. Filling out our lineup with Drummond+Kidd-Gilchrist would be my dream scenario but obviously its highly unlikely.
Kemba/FA
Henderson/Williams
Kidd-Gilchrist/Tyrus/Mags
Biz/White/Tyrus
Drummond/Mullens
a man can dream right?
What pick from Blazers
Do we get their first rounder for this year or next year? We need to pick in top 10 to keep our pick away from the Bulls (correct?)
"I don’t want to shoot my mouth in my foot, but those are games we can win."
I think the Bulls pick is lottery protected (top 14)
And the Portland pick isn’t until at least 2013, but it has some protections too.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jan 7, 2012 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
dang.. Blazers pick would have been very valuable this year
"I don’t want to shoot my mouth in my foot, but those are games we can win."
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