Counting Down the Top 24 Bobcats of All-Time -- #20-16
One thing you must understand is that for this early part of the top 24 and considering how young the franchise still is, it's not how good these players were, it's how not bad they were.
EDIT: I don't know what we were thinking at 4 a.m. when we did this list, but we had Bogans a bit too high. So I'm amending the list and putting Bogans at 22, moving the others up one. I apologize for the oversight.
One thing you must understand is that for this early part of the top 24 and considering how young the franchise still is, it's not how good these players were, it's how not bad they were.
EDIT: I don't know what we were thinking at 4 a.m. when we did this list, but we had Bogans a bit too high. So I'm amending the list and putting Bogans at 22, moving the others up one. I apologize for the oversight.
22. Keith Bogans
Bogans is now most-remembered for being the weakest link in last year's strong Bulls starting five. But for the Bobcats, he was, well, fine. On the team for the inaugural 04-05 season and for nearly half of the following year, he was a mostly a defensive presence, though those early Bobcats squads were hardly defensive forces. His shooting, as has just about always been the case, was neither the most efficient nor consistent, but his defense was passable.
19. Shaun Livingston
As is the case for most one-year Bobcats players, Shaun was tough to rank. He had to shake off a fair share of rust coming into the season as knee concerns kept him out of exhibition games. But he came on strong towards the end of the season before getting injured. Often the first option off the bench, Livingston looked to score more than play the pure point guard role as the second unit had trouble putting points on the board. His poor range on his jumper was easily countered with exceptional skill in the paint and on the block. His size (6-foot-7-inches tall) also allowed him to switch on defense with anywhere from the 1 to the 3. Unfortunately, a tailbone injury sidelined him for about the last 10 games of the season.
18. Sean May
What a conflict of talent, unfortunate knee problems and lack of drive Sean May was. Stricken with knee injuries that prevented him from ever playing anywhere close to a full season, May had many flashes of why the Bobcats took him 13th overall in the 2005 NBA Draft. He was versatile, though a tad undersized for a power forward. May could score in the post and had pretty good range on his jump shot. But he never was athletic enough to defend the elite forwards. Later in his career with the Bobcats, May could not reach the 260 pound goal that then-head coach Larry Brown set for him and was relinquished to the inactive list. Coupled with his immense injuries and weak will to work himself into playing shape, May's career in Charlotte was frustrating and underwhelming.
17. Walter Herrmann
If you don't remember Walter Herrmann, alas, I'm sorry. He was eccentric. He had huge hands. He came out of nowhere to win an NBA Rookie of the Month award in March and was honored with a selection to the NBA All-Rookie second team. As a 27-year-old. Struggling to find consistent playing time with a coach that didn't know how to utilize him, Herrmann caught fire towards the middle of March, reeling off 18 games scoring in double figures in his last 20 games of his rookie season. That season, he had a true shooting percentage of 62.5%, which is outstanding. He dropped bombs from outside like he was playing NBA Jam: 46.1%. The sample size is small, but his time in Charlotte was above average. His defense, though, was below average. Regardless, we thought he qualified enough for this ranking. Fabio forever.
16. Melvin Ely
An inch or two short for a center, Ely had good touch around the basket and the bulk to get a good look on occasion. As Draft Express notes, his left hand might as well have been invisible. He wasn't a great athlete, but was simply an OK defender that tended to foul and have trouble boxing out due to mental errors. However, Ely had a fair first season and a good second season with the Bobcats, averaging about 10 and 5 on 50.8% FG, which is good enough to make this spot.
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Good additions, although I don’t think Shawn should be on this list.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Sean or Shaun?
I don’t think Sean needed to be on the list
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 20, 2011 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Though some commentary on him was legendary
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 20, 2011 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Shaun Livingston. He hasn't done enough for a long enough time.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
The Claw!
Anyone who has been a Bobcats fan since the beginning loved this guy. He had the perfect combination for fans to love him: productive and goofy! I miss that guy.
I like the rankings so far. As I said in the other thread, I was expecting Ely and Herrmann to fall somewhere in the middle. I’m betting my namesake is coming up soon ……..
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 18, 2011 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh Fabio....
How I remember watching the videos of you dunking while taking your shirt off. How weird yet awesome you were. FABIO!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cza2yIk_yU
That is awesome
And I hope no one ever tries that during All-Star weekend. Unless it involves a dance team of course.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 18, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
And a choir.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 19, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
And possibly a Kia
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 19, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions
This whole thing is depressing. Marvin Ely is in our top 20?
And Keith Bogans had a shot at our top 20 at one point. (Sigh)
It is awfully depressing.
But at the same time, it really opens your eyes to why we’ve been in the playoffs only once in our existence.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 19, 2011 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions
We haven't been around long and had a league-imposed cap on our salaries below the actual cap for several years?
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 20, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Bucks are loaded at the PG position.
I say we find a way to bring Livingston back. I really think he can be a difference maker in the league, still.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 19, 2011 9:30 AM EDT reply actions
It would be nice...
Maybe they cut him and we give him a vet min contract?
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 20, 2011 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I would poop my pants if that happened.
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
this is depressing
One can only assume that Gerald Wallace will occupy spots 1-10
i bet gerald wallace is number one and stephen jackson is 2
by jadedeed2327 on Aug 20, 2011 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Okafor at 2. Jax played less than 2 seasons.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
...when the payroll was twice what it ever was when Okafor was on the roster, in an awful (as usual) Eastern Conference, when we got shellacked in the playoffs.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 22, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
SMH
Really?
REALLY!!!???!?
So you prefer medeocre versus trying to actually building a team that will consistently be in the playoffs and sometimes have a chance at it all?
And I’m not saying that we are because of The Biz. I’m saying it because I’m trying to explain that we are into a multi-year process of building the team. This would be year 1 – remove big contracts and take some chances on youth.
Let’s make playoffs and then get swept. What would we have at that point?
What would have happened next? Obviously you know more than any of us do.
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 23, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno, he has a point.
Being the darkest of dark horses every single year sounds fun. Like when you’re waiting in line at the DMV and your number never gets called, even though you swear that other guy came in waaaaay after you did.
That's never fun. Never.
Seriously, who wants to wait for hours just to see other people who came in later get called ahead of you? That’s such an un-fun scenario that I can’t imagine anyone wanting to compare it to the Bobcats.
I would so much rather suffer for another couple of years and then have honest-to-god chances at winning in the playoffs. Getting there next year and once again getting swept? No fun.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 24, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
I can remember once waiting with my sister when she was getting her license renewed.
Her boyfriend of the time was a talented artist and I was a wee lad of, at most, 8 years old. He drew me all the ninja turtles on a sheet of paper.
Guess what? That DMV trip was still decidedly un-fun.
If the Bobcats begin to utilize the DMV brand of basketball, I’ll take karate lessons so that I can pretend I’m both the Shredder and Michaelangelo and I can karate chop myself in the head. At this point, I will either be, 1) dead, or at worst, 2) brain-damaged. Either way, it’s a victory that I won’t have to watch DMV basketball.
/rant off.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 24, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions
Sarchasm.....
Right?
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 24, 2011 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Come on Tim...
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 24, 2011 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
My sarcasm detector was blown up in the earthquake.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 25, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Which means I should probably apologize.
So, I owe a sincere apology to the person most slighted by my comment. I am sorry that I didn’t enjoy you enough as a child, Michaelangelo. You were truly the best of the bunch and vastly superior to those crazy Power Rangers. Ya know what? I don’t even think they were really animated.
Also, sorry Aisander. I missed the sarcasm completely.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 25, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
You'll be waiting for a long time, as that day will never come. lol
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
It won't be, but Wallace will always be top ten for his contributions
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Sean May?
That guy doesn’t belong on any top-ANYTHING list that doesn’t involve eating.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 20, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions
Is this series of posts designed to be a joke?
Seriously??? What is the purpose of creating a top # list with names like Sean May and Walter Herrmann on it? We need to wait about 20 years for trying to put something together like this. Otherwise it’s not just laughable.
And I mean no disrespect. This just makes me want to completely forget about the Bobcats.
STEVE SMITH!
More than anything...
This is an attempt to have SOMETHING to post at a Bobcats website. Believe me, at Trade Street Post we are having our own issues trying to produce articles. I mean we are very, VERY quiet just because there just isn’t anything interesting to post.
They are doing what they can here with what they got.
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 20, 2011 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Here's a popular pic from last year's gameday threads:
It should be noted that Sean May’s stay at Fenerbahçe Ülker wasn’t too long, albeit his stay was longer than his tenure at the NJ Nets. The Turkish team did not resign his contract over the summer.
May’s stats for Fenerbahçe:
8 games played
12.2 min 4.3 points 2.8 Rebounds .2 Blocks .5 Assists
As a UNC alum, I was excited at having both Felton and May on the Bobcats, but I quickly realized that May perhaps wasn’t necessarily the player we all expected. I think what frustrated me the most was his work ethic (or lack thereof), especially considering how many second chances folks kept giving him. Numerous reports from across the Internet (and a few from people I actually know) document his partying and high spending ways. I don’t mean to judge him, because it’s not necessarily my place to and because I obviously don’t know all the details about him, but the attitude I feel he transmitted to me—and other fans—-was almost one of apathy.
My memory of May as a Bobcat is seeing him at various games on an exercise bike, back when Larry Brown was trying to get him into shape.

Are we sure "Ülker" doesn't mean "inmate" in Turkish?
I swear this looks like a mug shot every time I see it.
Newton for '11 ROY!
Walker for '11 ROY!
Biyombo for '11 DPOY!
This list of best Bobcats is depressing. I know it's a young organization..but come on.
Some of these guys should not be on any list..probably on a BUST lists. This organization needs to start doing a better job drafting and in picking up FA’s. Get some decent scouts. I wish the Bobcats success. Maybe 5 years from now you can re-do this list and it won’t be so awful.
They should let me be a scout and assistant GM. The fans may not like the players but they’d forget once we started winning.
Wow, the arrogance is just dripping off that response
It’s also coated with plenty of delusion.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 22, 2011 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
A lineup of Delonte West, Nick Young, Terrence Williams, Yi, and Nenad Kristic with Marshon Brooks, Daniel Gibson, and Aaron Gray coming off the bench is going to scare NO ONE.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 22, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions
That's incorrect
It would scare the crap out of Bobcats fans.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 22, 2011 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's a championship caliber squad if I ever seen one.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 22, 2011 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 22, 2011 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
haha funny
They would be more intimidating than. DJ Aug, Henderson, Maggette, Cunningham, Tyrus, Diop, Kwame and Carroll, Bismarck Biyo. Oh. I mean..Raja, Felton, Diaw, Okafor , Wallace…Oh I mean lol..Brevin Knight, Kapono, Wallace, Ok and Brezec..i mean…lol
PG. Kemba/T-Will/Dragic
SG. Afflalo/ Jo Crawford
SF. Martell Webster/Klay
PF Blatche/Biyombo/Kenyon Martin
C. Cousins/ Nenad
Not a champion but a young team to build with going forward.
A few vets. A few trade chips. A few head cases so they’ll be easy to acquire. In the east, that’s about 7 or 6 in first year or two.
Hey, you leave Primoz out of this! :)
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 23, 2011 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I think we ran the pick and roll on every play with DJ and Tyrus we would win a lot.
And fans would like me.
They should let me be the coach.
A team full of role players will only get you so far Focus.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 23, 2011 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Cousins and Kemba are could be stars.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
I think Cousins will, not so sure about Kemba.
But I don’t even know how he expects us to acquire Cousins. Probably thinks we can sign him as a free agent for 4 years, 2.5 million a year.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 24, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That lineup is a fantasy world though
The Bobcats don’t have the resources to get anywhere close to that lineup. Why don’t you just add Lebron and Kobe while you’re at it?
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 23, 2011 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Bc they are impossible. With the exception of Aflalo and Cousins. This list is pretty possible. i mean we do still have a trade exception. Cousins would be hard to get but not that hard considering his problems. Dragic may not be easy to get but he can easily be replaced by Ramon Sessions. Martell has NO PLACE in Minny any longer. With all the wings, plus Beasley and Williams. Blatche could easily come from Tyrus trade. Kenyon Martin maybe not but i think that DJ White can be that 3rd guy. Nenad is a FA. DJ can get us either Klay or someone similar OR Jordan Crawford who will be “expendable” depending on that happens with Nick Young. It would take some work and possible a 2nd rd pick or cash consideration, to get them. But it wont be as hard as we’re making it. Its def far from a “fantasy” roster bc of all the players’ past…PS. All the players NOT still on the roster were traded…for these guys
Like I said, fantasy world
So you’re flipping Carroll, Diop, Tyrus, Diaw, DJ, and Maggette for those guys? We’d be lucky to just to dump most of them for another bad contract and a Rolo McFlurry.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 24, 2011 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions
If only we still had Sean May.
If anyone knew the secrets to getting McFlurry’s, it was him.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 24, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
win
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
by Ben Swanson on Aug 24, 2011 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL. Well, he was affectionately known as McMay
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 24, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
McMay, Fatty.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 24, 2011 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions
You didn’t ask me to rosterbate. You asked WHO. But the idea would’ve been to trade Wallace to Hou instead. 1st rd pick, T-Will and Dragic. (Can’t decide whether that would be on draft day or not..prolly not)…of course Houston would’ve made the playoffs with Wallace. Still would’ve had a decent pick. I would’ve did the Jax trade with the Houston pick but I would’ve got Klay and Kemba. Tyris would’ve got me Blatche this season. Made a strong run at Afflalo in FA. I don’t know how i could’ve got Cousins but, I would’ve found a way. Webster is not a huge priority, i just think he’s tough and all around.
What? Dragic may not be as easy to get?
As who? Cousins?
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 24, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Nevermind.
The word “as” wasn’t in there. My bad. I just had to read it again to make sure I was seeing that right.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 24, 2011 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
And stop mentioning Nenad. The guy signed overseas and doesn't have an opt out clause.
He’s off limits.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 24, 2011 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
You asked me. Nenad only left bc Boston didn’t play him. And if not Nenad, I wouldve just my second rd center. Or got Lopez for cheap in FA. There is always Kwame. I didn’t come up with this by using our current roster. Yal asked who would I have if I was a GM. And I named a team of realistic players to have to GROW with. Not win some instant championship. Funny how everyone turned the tables to another situation after simply askin me to name the kinda team I would have. lol at everyone frontin like they wouldn’t be excited with that team.
Well, how would you expect that team to grow
when they are due for extensions?
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 25, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
The same way we expect to pay players during our rebuilding. But this roster is cheap already. Plus this question proves my point on why veteran contracts and locking young players in before the “big payday” are also VERY valuable in rebuilding
At a minimum, we'll be in the upper 50's in salary
I wouldn’t call that cheap. Two years from now, we’ll have loads of money ……….. if we don’t do something stupid and start signing guys to 5 or 6 year contracts after the lockout.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 25, 2011 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
It should all be so simple.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 26, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
It should.
But as fans we are in a different position than MJ. Yes, we all know that MJ wants to win. But he also wants to make money. He has to try to win within the parameters of making money. It’s not easy to put a product on the floor that will bring in the fans without spending money. Unless MJ is okay with going further into the red for the next couple of years, I’m not optimistic that he’ll be able to afford to /not/ sign some contracts.
Of course, he doesn’t have to sign them for 5-6 years, but that’s not always his decision to make. Sometimes it really is a sellers market. If the players that would improve the team are demanding 5-6 years or they go elsewhere, we could see this whole thing blow up in our faces.
I really hope that MJ is committed to winning, even if it means that he loses even more money (above and beyond what he would normally lose). I want to see us in two years, after we’ve ditched all the bad contracts (except Thomas – blah). I’m just not optimistic that he’ll be able to afford, from a business perspective, to do it.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 26, 2011 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Tim, I agree
But MJ has to be careful not to get stuck in middle ground here. If he has decided to rebuild, you have to go all out. You can’t get halfway through the tear down and then change your mind and start throwing out 5 year, $30 million deals for slightly above average players. He has to complete the tear down now and we have to hope he builds it correctly.
My heart pumps no Kool-Aid
by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 26, 2011 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you win, you WILL make money.
If you constrain yourself with operating on budget alone, you’ll never win.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 28, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
You can win and lose money
As a matter of fact, Dallas operated in the red last year and won a title.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 28, 2011 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I would like to place a bet that the Mavericks will not lose money next year.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
I wouldn't be so sure
The Mavs lose money every year. But the team is just a toy for Cuban and his pockets are so deep, he doesn’t care if he loses $10 million a year. But this is the exact reason many owners are pushing for a hard cap and revenue sharing. Because it takes deep, deep pockets to contend in this league with the current rules.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 28, 2011 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions
not really. It takes better scouting. Something I think the league has been missing for quite some time now. I always stress the number of players in the league and I think that some FO dont do enough extensive research as to who would fit WHAT offense. I think the hardcap is terrible and bad teams are lazy and looking for a easy way out, If you dont have the monetary resources, then make smarter decisions and dont sign players just to “fill roster spots”. But lockout talk is a very sensitive subject.
Certainly true.
But there’s a significant difference between running a $60 million payroll (which Jordan is apparently not willing to do) and a $110 million payroll.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 29, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Im not saying be stupid with the money but you have to spend or do a helluva better job using your resources and WAY better scouting if you want to build a contender. I think MJ is doing too much HOPING
The issue is there is a very fine
line between spending wisely and being stupid with money. Some player’s are worth the salaries on some teams while not on others. Tyson Chandler for example. He had a bloated contract for an injured center with an extremely limited offensive game on a team like ours. On a team like the Mavs, because of the money Cuban has, his salary was basically irrelevant and he had enough pieces to compliment him to minimize his weaknesses and was a perfect fit. We need to be extremely wise with our money since we are a small market team. Not because I’m interested in saving Jordan money. It’s not about him. It’s about having a plan for the future. The future isn’t next year for us. The future is phase 2 of cleaning up the mess that we’re in. It’s the same thing New York was doing for the past 2 or 3 years. We may never have someone like LeBron sign here, but if we have the cap space, I’m pretty sure we could bait someone on the level of Amare Stoudemire to accept a contract as those players are most of the time just looking for the best pay day. Those are the type of players I’m more willing to take a gamble with.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 1, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
But Focus,
being that they are already in the league, they would obviously be due for extensions a lot sooner than our players would.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 26, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
They are now. If I were GM at the deadline, chances are we wouldve had a totally different team. Only players remaining would’ve been Maggette, Diaw and Hendo
probably Diaw
The draft would’ve been different. Would’ve took about 2yrs but I would’ve had that team.
It is depressing.
Bernie Bickerstaff was doing a good job of building smart, young, and cheap, but when he was shoved out the door by Johnson, Jordan, and their cronies, everything went all to shit.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 22, 2011 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Long Live Herrmann!
I personally think the list is AWESOME!
I dont know why you all are expecting a list of NBA legends from a seven year old team. No one claimed them to be. Anyone that has been a Cats fan from the beginning has memories, good or bad, of these players and its fun to reminisce and rate the players.
by MR. MANN on Aug 21, 2011 2:33 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Why did we do this list?
Because we want to piss people off.
Well, not really.
We did it because memories are short. It’s easy to forget Brevin Knight ran a mean pick and roll or that Derek Anderson was a pretty good defender or that Sean May could play pretty well when he was healthy (as limited as that is).
It’s important to remember these things. I know it’s depressing. It’s important to look at this and see “Oh, that’s why we are where we are now.”
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
I agree
And thanks for putting this together Ben. I know all of us want the Bobcats to be winning NBA titles every year but it’s also important to enjoy the ride, however long it takes. To be honest, some of my favorite Bobcats memories are from that first season. Even in the bad years, it’s still fun to appreciate the little things. So keep up the good work. I’m interested in seeing how the rest of the list shakes out.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 21, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be happy with us winning just one NBA title every year.
Asking for more than one is just getting greedy, imo. :-P
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 22, 2011 2:47 AM EDT up reply actions
yes, thanks for the list
I don’t see what all the fuss is about. It’s just a simple list of our best players. Yes, we’re a young franchise, so obviously, we may not have a list populated with really, really good players, but these guys were still a part of our team, and a part of our history, so it’s nice to sit back and reflect on them, even if they weren’t really that ‘good.’
Despite us being terrible those early years, I still remember them fondly. Plus, on the upside, we’ve never placed last in the Southeast Division (and that includes our inaugural season)
by Roger, Roger on Aug 21, 2011 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but Miami is just 3 injuries away from the worst record in the NBA!
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 22, 2011 2:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Coming soon to a beach near you...
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Aug 22, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Washington won't make the playoffs again this year.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 22, 2011 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Washington needs to clean up their roster. They have probably the lowest I.Q. team basketball wise and other wise. They won’t make the playoffs…but than again it’s the Eastern Conference..you can make the playoffs with a losing record.
by senelcoolidge on Aug 22, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Yep. And with the talent they got from the draft and the young talent they already have, I would be shocked. Look for the Bucks to make a strong run. And for Jax to have a CRAZY year…
Eastern Conference Playoff Teams for whenever the year starts.......
Miami, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, New York, Orlando, Indiana, Philly or Milwaukee
Washington won’t be in the race again.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 23, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow, Nice Going, Derek
Former Cats’ Guard, Derek Anderson is the suspected leader of a multi-million dollar cocaine ring.
"With the third pick of the 2006 NBA Draft, the Charlotte Bobcats select, Adam Morrison, Gonzaga."
Lol. I had no idea D.A. could be involved in such activities.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope his proficiency in court can live up to his initials.
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
Yeah, that looks real legitimate.
The evidence is so firm that he was charged with…nothing.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 24, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
But people have convicted Biyombo of lying about his age with the same amount of evidence.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Aug 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The benefit of naming someone when you're a felon is a reduced sentence.
The benefit of naming somebody to be lying about their age is…? Yup, thought so.
Advance apologies if the contents of this sports-based post offended you. I'm just aiming to educate the masses. My law professor says they're asses.
Panthers '011: This is what we've been waiting for...we get to overpay the core of a 2-14 team!
by MichaelProcton on Aug 25, 2011 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions

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