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We Got Kemba!


I don't think you guys know how excited I am right now. In case for whatever reason you didn't watch the draft or you haven't caught up to speed on the happenings, let me break it down really quickly.

The Bobcats traded Stephen Jackson and Shaun Livingston away (and the 19th pick), my two favorite players on the roster. Jax was the only player that resembled a leader, something the Bobcats have always lacked. In return, however, they received the 7th pick in the 2011 NBA Draft, and boy, did they have themselves a great draft.

First, the Bobcats acquired Bismack Biyombo, the raw athletic defensive monster machine thing guy that they coveted. I love me some Biyombo, but Connor Huchton already wrote a great piece on him.

And then, inexplicably, Kemba Walker dropped all the way to 9 (sparked by the Cleveland Cavaliers selecting Tristan Thompson at 4), and the Bobcats were smart enough to snatch him up. If you guys follow me on Twitter, you'll know that my two favorite guys in this draft were Kawhi Leonard and Kemba Walker. So me? Ecstatic.

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Let's start with some things that can't be measured. Kemba is a winner. Kemba is a leader. Since he started playing basketball, Kemba Walker has been the leader of every team he's been on, and he's excelled in that position. From high school to winning the NCAA Championship, Kemba has won. Kemba Walker is the Charlie Sheen of basketball. Winning.

Kemba is a charming, outgoing personality. He speaks his mind, wants to have fun, and will sacrifice everything if it means winning. I know, I've said winning a lot. But really, what more can you say?

On the court, Kemba is a 6'1" point guard with incredible scoring potential. He's often knocked about his size, but has proven throughout the course of his career that he plays much bigger than his 6'1" frame should allow him to. Many players have done well at this size, notably Chris Paul, Darren Collison, Ty Lawson, and Aaron Brooks. His arms aren't exceptionally long (6'3" and change), but he's still a fantastic defender (1.9 steals per game) and doesn't get blocked very often (47 FG% on two point attempts). Oh, and guess what? He has a nearly 40" vertical leap to go along with lightning-quick speed; expect to see him throw down from time to time.

One concern surrounding Kemba Walker prior to the draft was whether or not he can play point guard in the NBA. He shoots a lot, averaging 18 shot attempts per game last year. However, people still seem to overlook his 4.5 assists. Jonathan Givony of DraftExpress says it best:

The Rice High School product was known as an unselfish playmaker earlier in his career. While his stats this season may lead some to the impression that he has gone away from that, his increased production stems from necessity more than anything. UConn cannot survive without Walker scoring in bunches.

Digging deeper into his film, there are still plenty of instances where Walker's outstanding court vision and creative passing shine through. He's capable of threading the needle to teammates rolling to the basket with bullet passes, finding open shooters on the wing, and making fundamentally-sound entry passes into the post for high percentage looks around the rim.

He should transition well into the point guard role, setting up teammates for shots while also finding his own offense. It's especially helpful that Kemba Walker will have Boris Diaw, another unselfish player, as well as the seasoned DJ Augustin to help him make plays if the task seems to much for him to handle at first.

He's a great rebounder considering his size, averaging 5.4 per game last year, good for 4th among point guards in the NCAA. This should also translate well. Like Chris Paul, Kemba sneaks into a good position to steal rebounds from other players, often jetting up the court for a transition layup. One man fast break.

The thing that most concerns me is that Kemba Walker and DJ Augustin are very similar players. DJ is a much better shooter and passer, but Kemba is a better scorer, defender and rebounder. It will be interesting to see if they can coexist, but knowing Cho, he'll deal one of them if it becomes an issue. 

The thing I hope Kemba works most on this summer? His perimeter shooting. He isn't a terrible shooter by any means, however he's somewhat inconsistent. It's the one thing that might hold him back from being truly special. If he adds a 3 point shot to his arsenal, he'll be able to blow by defenders with ease if they play him closely and drain threes if they play him to the drive.

All in all, Kemba Walker is a great pick for the Charlotte Bobcats. Rich Cho has already acquired two strong assets for the future. Quote me on this: if he's given the minutes, Kemba will get rookie of the year.

Oh, and here's a little something something to get you by:

 

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I honestly think Kemba will be very good.

I would go as far to say that we got the best player in this draft, but I would probably get hate replies.
Ps: I think we will enjoy watching him, I just hope he doesn’t go Lebron on us.

by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 6:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Not sure he's the best.

I’d put Derrick Williams, Jonas Valanciunas, and (maybe) Kyrie Irving ahead of him. But definitely among the top 5 when all is said and done.

Bro, I have Twitter and stuff.

by Joshua Priemski on Jun 24, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I had never heard of him until this year

but when I watched him play, he reminded me of Derrick Rose, so I hope he can live up to what I thought he looked like.

by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rose is a stretch

Screams rich man’s JJ Barrea to me, worst case. Best case? Poor man’s Allen Iverson.

Bro, I have Twitter and stuff.

by Joshua Priemski on Jun 24, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

KW1

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Jun 24, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya'll can call me a liar if you want to after I post it (but I don't care), but

ESPN had a lottery pick simulator on ESPN.com that come out before the NCAA tournament. It projected us to pick 10th just about eveytime you clicked “simulate,” but eveytime it had us picking Kemba. For some reason after that, I began following Kemba a little more because that gave me a gut feeling that we would draft him.

Well, here we are and let the Kemba era begin! I hope I don’t have to eat those words.

by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 6:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Anyone know when Mack and Kemba are coming into Charlotte for a press conference?

And what # you think Kemba will take? He has had 15 his whole life I think and I doubt that Hendo will give it to him. My guess is 16 for some reason.

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 24, 2011 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Kemba is #1 and Biyombo is #28

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by Ben Swanson on Jun 24, 2011 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Man...Jack lost his number that quick

I know it was bound to happen eventually…but man this business is cold.

"I could never be a thug, they don't dress this well." - Malice

by Julius Coxswain on Jun 25, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

We now have two legit ROY candidates

In my eyes. If they get PT, both ber well could put up numbers that would be really hard to ignore.

I like the kemba=Iverson comparrison. Think kemba could be an even better passer. Both killer scorer mentality.

by mives36 on Jun 24, 2011 6:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Im calling Derrick Williams, a Morris Twin, Marshon Brooks or Kemba as ROY…

by focuslja on Jun 24, 2011 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gave it a B.

I liked the pick a lot, and I’m not totally sure who I’d pick over him, but I’m not the biggest Kemba fan. I’m looking forward to watching him play for us and think he could be very, very good.

by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Would have like Khawi Leonard better

Any way you think we could package DJ and Diaw for a young big man?

What about a sign and trade for Big baby Davis?

C-Kwame/Big Mac
PF-Tyrus/Big Baby
SF-Maggette/Cunningham
SG-Hendo/Caroll
PG-Kemba/FA

I know Tyrus and Big Baby are best friends and that Boston showed interest in DJ this past year…plus Diaw would be a nice fit on a veteran team to give it one final push for the ship

by weezy21 on Jun 24, 2011 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

We need depth just about everywhere but PG

that’s what is so scary. For instance: SF? C?

by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 7:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bismack's 7'7" wingspan makes him more than capable of being a C.

We certainly need SF depth, but we’ll manage to get by somehow, we’ll hopefully fill out that in the draft next year with a potentially great player. I’d take Boris over Big Baby, and I don’t like Diaw much.

After all, we’re not really trying to be good next season.

by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey, be warned!

Next season is going to be very, very, VERY rough. Cho, in typical Cho fashion, is more likely to sign a 1-3 year deal with a vet until the ’Cats can acquire an under the radar player in a trade, or draft their own. Doubt there will be any/many young players coming to Charlotte in free agency. The goal is the lottery next year, in which the top 10 players all have potential to be franchise cornerstones; superstars.

Bro, I have Twitter and stuff.

by Joshua Priemski on Jun 24, 2011 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Next year will be major hell. One thing Skip Bayless did get right is we might have just became the worst team in the NBA

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 24, 2011 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Trust me, I expect to be the worst team in the league next season.

That’s the point though. We have a huge gap at the SF position, and I hope we win the lottery next season and there is a game-changing franchise cornerstone at the SF position.

by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

somehow I see us with the worst record next year but still not winning the lottery.

I have never trusted the lottery, just always seems fixed to me.

"Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable"-Mark Twain

by griffter10 on Jun 24, 2011 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guys

Is it bad that Cho called me at work today to see if I wanted to moonlight at SF?

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Jun 24, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry you renewed yours...

At least mine were free…

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Jun 25, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now the plan becomes...will we have a season

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Jun 25, 2011 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

huge gap?

are you forgetting about Maggette?

The huge gap is at Center and SG

by weezy21 on Jun 25, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed. For some reason our fans dont think Maggette will be around long. I think he’ll be here for quite some time. If he is traded, he’d have to be packaged but it definately wont be packaged with Diaw. That would be nearly 19mil. So I cant see him being packaged with Diaw unless its a 3 or 4 team trade.

by focuslja on Jun 26, 2011 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

If Maggette is focused and healthy, he’ll fit in okay here. He’s more athletic than Jack and can replace most of his scoring. And rumor is that he loves coming here because he hated Milwaukee.

My heart pumps no Kool-Aid

by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 27, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm kinda for having players that really want to be here.

In the initial interview in Charlotte, where the Biz was signing stuff, He just kept saying over and over, how exxcited he was to be here and this is where he wanted to be. KW1 seems to share that enthusiasm. Hendo likes it here, Kwame wants to be here…

That speaks volumes. The more that the players acknowledge how much they enjoy being here, the more the fans WANT TO CONNECT with them.

In the next 2 years, it might actually become safe to buy a player’s jersey.

I bought AmMo’s and he was removed…I bought Crash’s after he was gone, and I also snagged a 2XL Jax jersey. Jax is gone now, and the jersey is too big. Anyone want to buy a Jax jersey?

$30?
Never worn, but washed one time to try and shrink…and it didn’t shrink.

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Jun 27, 2011 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I crazy?

Or are there actually people voting with an ‘F’ Grade? Seriously?

by afox75 on Jun 24, 2011 7:53 PM EDT reply actions  

Which is sad,

They’re missing out on what’s going to (hopefully) be an exciting future.

by afox75 on Jun 24, 2011 8:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Meant as a reply,

Sorry still getting use to this.

by afox75 on Jun 24, 2011 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pacers fan speaking

Cheer up Charlotte fans at least you can say you hosed the other 2 teams in the trade.

by PatsR18andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Jun 24, 2011 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

KEMBA ! AKA "K W ?"

    A proven winner, tough as nails, high I’ Q’ and the future member of Jordan Brand ! He graduated early and was MVP of the NCAA Tourney. Could be another Mugsy, JJ Barea, Earl Boykins, or Spud Webb ! Great pick MJ and Rich !

by chris in union county on Jun 24, 2011 8:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I say Brooks, Barea type. I cant see Boykins and Spud. Maybe an early Andre Miller or Tim Hardaway

by focuslja on Jun 26, 2011 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really

The guy is a great athlete. he is quick and can jump out the gym. he had a max vert of 39.5!!! almost a 40 inch vert! He is a good ball handler and a decent jump shooter along with being taller than CP3 and Aaron Brooks if only by 1 inch.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 26, 2011 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey guys, congrats on your draft picks, i picked marcus morris to bobcats

i like kemba, he is a winner, eventhough he is a small sg playing pg, and biyombo is defensive beast and if he works on offensive game , it can help bobcats get back to playoffs soon,

glad to see bobcats with a solid gm in rich cho

by jadedeed2327 on Jun 24, 2011 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do people keep saying the guy is a 2 guard playing point? 09-10 season when UCONN had Dyson and Robinson he averaged 5 assists per game and was the main facilitator for that team. The guy I thin can play point

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 25, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He wasn’t his freshman and sophomore year. He scored a lot this year because he had to in order for the team to win. Even his coach and teammates have said he shot and scored a lot in order for the team to win. This team was one of Jim Calhoun’s least talented teams and they won the national championship because of this dude.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 26, 2011 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gave it a B

I don’t think Kemba and DJ can play with each other on the court. Kemba to be the backup his first season and see how it goes. DJ maybe to be moved / relegated to backup the season after that?

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by Warmec on Jun 25, 2011 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

After watching the Higgins/Cho post-draft conference

D.J. is out the door. Maybe not immediately, but his days in Charlotte are definitely numbered. We all assumed that after the Bobcats drafted Kemba, but Higgins just pretty much confirmed it.

He essentially said: Yea D.J. can shoot the ball, but Kemba is a lot better at pretty much everything else.

by Basketball Rambler on Jun 25, 2011 8:39 AM EDT reply actions  

well a comment like that

isnt one to motivate a competition between the two. DJ is gone. I hate that Higgs made that comment like that. Because DJ didnt have the type of squad that could maximize his talents. But its cool. Man that comment musta stung.

by focuslja on Jun 26, 2011 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

unfair

I agree DJ was kind of set up to fail but you can blame all of that on Larry brown convincing the team to draft this kid. DJ is a very good shooter and could be a solid point on better built teams.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 26, 2011 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know, I can really see DJ and Kemba playing together.

DJ and Felton have played together on the court before, and that at times worked out very well since DJ is actually more suited to play the off guard position and allow himself to catch and shoot. As we know, Kemba Walker is a guy who likes to attack the basket and could find open teammates all day if the opposing player comes over to help defense.

Li Zheng

by 111 on Jun 25, 2011 10:59 AM EDT reply actions  

The problem with that is the liability DJ is on the defensive end

You take Hendo off the floor and replace him with DJ and we’ll be like a sieve on defense. We already lost a lot of D moving from Jax to Maggette, but to play Augustin at the 2 on top of that will let teams score 100 on us nightly.

by James Dator on Jun 25, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

The diffference is the height...

I see someone like Goran Dragic playing behind Kemba. It will be a natural PG but chances are IMO it will be a bigger body.

by focuslja on Jun 26, 2011 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe the team can move D.J. and something else for a big man? I honestly don’t see that happening but maybe

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 25, 2011 11:52 AM EDT reply actions  

promises

kemba was the best player in the draft…he will win roy…his confidence and work ethic will lead him to the top of the draft class and the nba…kemba is ai(my favorite player of all time) clone…bismack is a beast and will lead all rookies in rebounds and blocks write it down…. love what the bobcats are doing and i hope that there is a season next year so they can show the young talent we have and next year, hopefully, have a draft like we did this year..in 4 years we will have a title in the bascketball mecca that is NC,,you can take that to the bank

by Orey on Jun 26, 2011 12:18 AM EDT reply actions  

you don’t think so?

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 26, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could see Kemba in the running for ROY

But the Morris bros and Derrick Williams will be the top of rebounds. With all the shots Houston and PHX put up, it should be easy. And Derrick Williams is just a phenom…

by focuslja on Jun 26, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemba, a flashy college player with a fun name, but don't expect he'll do much as a pro

Kemba is everything NBA GM’s should avoid when drafting players – undersized volume scorer from the Big East who made a name for himself in the NCAA tournament.

The Bobcats seemed to learn the foolishness of drafting “winners” who possess unmeasurable “intangibles” after their experiences with Felton, May and Morrison, but apparently time has dulled that painful lesson. Drafting Big East players in the lottery has been a risky proposition the past five years with lottery busts Jonny Flynn, Wes Johnson, Haseem Thabeet, Randy Foye, Joe Alexander, Jeff Green, Terrence Williams, Earl Clark, and Hilton Armstrong. Just like those players, Kemba played against weak competition in the most over-hyped conference in the NCAA.

Kemba is neither a good shooter nor a great distributor. He’s a “scorer,” which means he takes and misses lots of shots. Those types of players do not have a strong track record of success in the NBA. A team that already has DJ Augustin does not need an undersized PG who can’t shoot well.

by ClipCat on Jun 26, 2011 1:35 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry your view on Kemba is wrong

Kemba is has just as much opportunity to be a good NBA player as any player. He is undersized but so is Chris Paul , Raymond Felton,Brandon Jennings, Jason Terry, etc etc. This undersized thing gets so annoying and it doesnt matter if the kid can play. He is also a great 3 pt shooter, mid range shooter, and can get to the rim. People who follow college basketball will tell you the reason his FG % dropped is because UConn turned to him to make the plays and he was the main scorer, he will not have to do that in the NBA, And its funny how people keep saying he is not a distributor when he avg more apg the Kyrie, Knight , and Jimmer. And everyone Iv read or listened to talk about him said he was the main guy he had to score on that team and he couldnt distribute as well as he will be able to in the NBA.

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 26, 2011 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Except Kemba was a poor (inefficient) shooter all three years he was at UConn

And he’s also a poor three point shooter. Just look at his college stats. He may have carried the offensive load last season, but what about his first two years when he averaged 8.9 and 14.6 PPG? As a pro, he’ll face much tougher defense, and the three point line will be even farther beyond his shooting range.

by ClipCat on Jun 26, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Everyone faces tougher defenses when they come in the league thats a non issue

He is better passer then you give him credit . Kemba is a PG and he will not have to carry the load in the NBA because that is not what PG’s are for. Plus he will get better. I think your just playing the pessimist when you have no reason to be pessimistic. I understand you have your opinion but I think you are just looking at this kid and saying, hey he is a big star straight out of college there is no way he can replicate that in the NBA, and you are probably right, But PG’s in the NBA are not supposed to do what Kemba did. Im sure your opinion will not change but some of the people you compare him too are insulting and dont make sense. Kemba is actually probably the best passer in this draft and if not he is only 2nd to Kyrie. Im not saying he is a 10 apg kind of guy but its realistic to think he can give you 8 apg and something like 18 ppg. I just dont see why you dont think he has a chance to be good, it makes no sense to me.

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 26, 2011 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you watch UCONN?

he was a role player his first 2 years at the school while Dyson, Roberts and even garbage ass Thabeet were the big dudes on campus. I will admit his shooting numbers leave something to be desired but players can get better at shooting with coaching.

He was kind of like Iverson his last year at UCONN because they pretty much put all of the scoring burden on him. He lead that team to a national championship when everybody and there momma knew he was gonna have the ball in his hands most of the time. I’m not saying the guy is going to be Iverson but I see a lot of that in his game and I wouldn’t be surprised if he became a decent player

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 26, 2011 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I get that he had to carry the offensive load for Connecticut. But I don’t see any evidence that he was a more efficient scorer when he didn’t have to carry the load his first two seasons.

If he was as good as he was hyped to be this season, he would have carried the offense all three years at UConn, and his percentages would have improved over his time there (or more likely he would have left for the NBA sooner). The fact that guys like Dyson, Roberts and Thabeet overshadowed him doesn’t reassure me that he’s the player many have made him out to be.

I don’t see any evidence that he’ll suddenly become a better shooter when his shooting didn’t improve much in three years at UConn. I’m not satisfied with just hoping “he’ll get better.”

by ClipCat on Jun 27, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

In the end ClipCat, I just don't think there were better choices at #9.

We have a player who will bring more interest in the franchise, because of his college achievements. He was still a player who scouts had in the top 5-10 in the draft (depending on who you asked) so we got good value at the pick. And the only other players that made sense were Kwahi Leonard and Jordan Hamilton who took very long to come off the board, showing that there was certainly some concerns with their abilities or they’d have been drafted higher. While some of your concerns are valid, your grade of a D is extremely pessimistic and probably unwarranted. We got good value from our pick (I’d say D/F grades are reserved for reaches and Kemba is certainly not a reach) according to where this particular player was supposed to go. So in the end, your grade is colored too much with your own personal opinion without consulting the fact that there wasn’t much better available at that spot in the draft.

by Panthers FTW on Jun 27, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Isn't everyone's grade colored by their opinion?

I do agree there weren’t a lot of great choices at #9. I would have preferred either of the guys you mentioned or Klay Thompson. Pre-draft, Biyombo and Hamilton were the guys I wanted, and Kemba was the guy I most wanted to avoid.

by ClipCat on Jun 27, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

He was trying to be a facilitator his first 2 years

And when he needed to be go to guy he became one. He will get coaching here to get better even though he doesnt really have much to improve besides shooting percentage

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 27, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

somebody watched UCONN and understood what i was saying. He wasn’t the man there his first 2 seasons those guys had been there longer and had a rep along with the coaches trust. Stats don’t always tell the story and if people don’t know the story they should stop using stats to try and help them tell something they know nothing about

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by gunnin' gervin on Jun 27, 2011 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he was a poor shooter those first two seasons

Thus, he’s a poor shooter whether or not he’s the focus of the offense. I formed my opinion from the stats, but watching him only confirmed that opinion.

by ClipCat on Jun 27, 2011 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Theres a new thing called coaching

I think it helps people get better. I mean sure he had coaching at UConn but once he gets into the NBA coaches will specificly focus on your weak points and work on it. Shot selection is the easiest thing in the world to teach a player if he is not stupid and Kemba is not stupid.

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 27, 2011 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

You make a few good points clipcat

but I think you’re being overly pessimistic. Kemba’s shooting efficiency is driven down by largely by carrying a huge burden on offense last season. His shot selection was often poor, but we have to understand that he was encouraged to shoot freely. That could be a concern if he’s not willing to change, but he could adapt his game to succeed in the NBA. He’d be an awful pick for Larry Brown, but Silas may use him pretty well.

He’s a better passer than you give him credit for (4.5 apg while being asked to be the primary scorer), and he gets great positioning to grab rebounds (5.4 rpg). He’s a definite upgrade over D.J. for several reasons. He’s got way more hops (ever seen D.J. dunk? Me neither), he doesn’t shy away from contact and finishes well in the paint, and he has a leader’s mentality.

Saying this is a bad pick because we have D.J. is like saying we should have passed on Brooke Lopez because we have Okafor (something I foolishly said at the time). Walker will have to prove himself, but if he lives up to even half of his potential, then D.J. is out the door.

by Basketball Rambler on Jun 26, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Not saying the Bobcats shouldn't have picked a PG because of DJ

They just shouldn’t have picked a PG that can’t shoot and isn’t a great distributor either. 4.5 APG is pretty weak for a guy who played as many minutes and had the ball as much as Kemba did, but I will concede that the rest of his team was pretty weak, too (worst NCAA champion in at least my lifetime).

Going into the draft, Kemba was the player I would have picked to have the greatest chance to be a bust. Biyombo was one of my favorites (so I’m equally optimistic and pessimistic about this draft). The Bobcats didn’t have a lot of great choices available at #9, and I agree they need some help with scoring. Jordan Hamilton or Klay Thompson would have been decent selections though. I guess we’ll have to see how they play (whenever the NBA actually plays some games).

by ClipCat on Jun 26, 2011 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hamilton and Thompson

Both of those guys were great college scorers but do you know why they didn’t get drafted higher? Because they are both big time jump shooters. Both of them are decent at best as far as getting to the hoop or beating there man off the dribble. There whole offensive repertoire revolves around there jumper. Draft express which is one of the best websites around that talks about these guys even points out these facts.

 Kemba in school beat people off the dribble with ease and for his size finishes pretty well around the rim. He actually shot better from 2 point range than Thompson and about the same over all from the field as both of them while being 6 to 7 inches shorter. LOL.

Both Thompson and Hamilton shot better and attempted more from 3 than Kemba on the year. So that is one thing they do way better than the guy. But you have to remember the NBA is set up for guys who can get to the hoop and draw fouls or finish in traffic so the pros could no doubt be an easier transition for a guy like Walker.

I in no way am trying to say he will turn out to be better than both of those dudes but I wouldn’t be surprised if he did turn out better because 1. the Bobcats are going to need him to score and create for others to score and 2. The teams both of those guys are on have a bunch of people who need the ball to be effective

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by gunnin' gervin on Jun 27, 2011 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree Thompson and Hamilton are most likely role players, and their success will depend heavily on their shooting. But the Bobcats need that short of player with virtually no perimeter shooting outside of DJ. Without perimeter shooting, defenses are going to sag knowing that the Bobcats can’t beat them from outside.

Kemba got to the hoop in college against guys who aren’t good enough to play in the NBA, and he still didn’t make a high percentage of his shots. In the pros, I don’t expect he’ll be able to have nearly as much success inside, especially since teams won’t respect his jump shot. He’s just not big enough to be a consistent source of offense when teams know he has to drive to be effective.

by ClipCat on Jun 27, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay

Shooters are actually pretty easy to come by especially if there only job is to spot up and shoot. If the team can stay solid defensively with a few dudes whose only job is to hit jumpers than they will get run. Coupled with the fact that a lot of the great shooters need people to get them there shot because there specialty is shooting. But the reason a lot of the great shooters don’t get a lot of run in the league is because they don’t have folks who can set them up and they can’t play defense. It is not a coincidence that certain teams always unearth a shit load of shooters more than others. it is because of the style of play those teams run and how many attempts they actually get up.

On that note, people who can get there own shot and who can actually get other people involved without turning the ball over a lot are way harder to come by. Since you fancy yourself a stat guy then Walker’s quickness drills at the combine along with his max vert should help you believe that he wasn’t just beating bums in college. With the way the NBA is set up now they reward people who can get in the lane or beat there players one on one off the dribble. The guy is actually not that bad of a mid range jump shooter and since he is a rookie most players aren’t gonna automatically sag off of him his first year.

Kemba is as quick as John Wall in the Lane agility drill and quicker than Russell Westbrook in it. 3/4 court drill Westbrook is better than both Wall and Kemba while both of there numbers are similar. He has a better max and no step vertical than both guys and he also won a national championship with a less talented team than Wall.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 27, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also for comparison

Max Vertical
39.5 (Kemba Walker link to Draft Express)
40.0 (Jonny Flynn link to DX)

Lane Agility
10.87 KW
10.86 JF

3/4 Court Spring
3.16 KW
3.23 JF

Bench Press
7 KW
10 JF

So speaking strictly about combine measurements, the Bobcats drafted the athletic equivalent of Jonny Flynn. Kemba is 0.25" taller than Flynn, but Flynn has a 4" longer standing reach than Kemba. One can pretty easily make the argument that Flynn was a stronger prospect than Kemba since he was drafted higher in a stronger draft, too.

by ClipCat on Jun 28, 2011 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

So that automatically means he will have the same career?

Just because someone is more athletic does not mean they are better

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 28, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say that

It should be pretty clear that my post was a counterpoint to GG’s post. He compared Kemba’s athleticism to Wall and Westbrook. I provided an even closer comp in Jonny Flynn. I’m not sure who is/will be the better NBA PG between Flynn and Kemba, but right now I’d go with Flynn by a whisker.

by ClipCat on Jun 28, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont see how you would think that but ok

I mean I can understand not being swept up in optimism but your acting like there is no hope that Kemba will be good. That is just not something a fan does. ( not saying your not a fan it is just odd to me)

by TS BOBCAT on Jun 28, 2011 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Touche

Flynn got drafted as high as he did because David Kahn is an idiot and that draft was pretty much on par with this one when it came to talent. You have to remember that the 09 draft wasn’t looked at as being to great either at the time. I mean Blake Griffin was pretty much the only thing looked at as a sure bet.

I think Flynn would do better in a style that let him do more. He was playing with a T-Woves team that was trying to utilize the triangle offense. That doesn’t play to his strengths at all. Kemba on the other hand is going to be playing for a team where he will be a high on the pecking order for shooting. Not to mention the team is going to try and run more which suites his strengths.

I think Flynn is still young enough to get on track. Hopefully he can recover from his injury problems soon

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 28, 2011 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnny Flynn still a young and his first season didn’t play too bad, Wes Johnson is just finishing his rookie season, Thabeet when drafted was looked at as a project, Foye just sucks, Alexander was also looked at as a project because he is a twiner, Green has been a solid pro, Williams is a nut case, Clark is a twiner, Armstrong got drafted because he is tall. . I will admit the Big East is a tad bit overrated but out of al the guys you listed as garbage on a few of them were looked at as big time NBA prospects.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Jun 26, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kemba will make Charlotte proud

He’s a winner he’ll do what it takes to help Charlotte get better. Its going to take more than him obviously but with the progression he made year to year at UConn he’ll be fine. Sure he’s got plenty to work on and plenty to prove but he’s up for it.

GO Bobcats!

by hoosierhusky on Jun 26, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

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