Kemba Walker Drafted By Bobcats With No. 9 Pick
After trading away PG Shaun Livingston earlier today, the Bobcats selected Kemba Walker (PG, UConn) with their 9th pick.
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We're building similar to GS
DJ and Hendo, but a high speed lineup of DJ and Kemba
DJ
Kemba
Hendo
Tyrus
Biyombo
Talk about an athletic 5!
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 23, 2011 8:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I forgot to explain the GS comment
Similar to Curry and Ellis
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 23, 2011 8:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Defense
We are gonna be tough on that end…Just don’t ask us to score very much. Couldn’t be happier honestly…
That's an incredibly small backcourt
And Hendo is too small to be a forward. I think this is a horrible lineup… Two key players out of position.
STEVE SMITH!
We'll see
I know Hendo is too small for Small Forward…but if we played small ball…
Just saying
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 23, 2011 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Bad Porn would start at the 3, no?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
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-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
kemba will play PG
he and augustine will battle for starter. though this lineup would be an option as a small change of pace. henderson CAN defend the SF, so maybe we see this some.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:05 AM EDT up reply actions
The Next Jonny Flynn
Oh well. At least they got the Biyombo pick right. This one must have been MJ’s pick. He loves his NCAA winners.
Do you watch college basketball?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
YES
I watched a lot of college basketball when Adam Morrison won player of the year and then became the biggest flop of a draft pick this franchise has ever had. Its a good idea to pick good NBA players, not good college players. Walker could be good, but I’d rather not risk a top 10 pick on a 6 foot PG.
I would debate with you seriously
But did you just compare Adam Morrison and Kemba Walker?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mufasa was the safe pick, this is the high risk, high reward pick
We can pretty much guarantee Mufasa will never be a star, never be great offensively. But he’ll also most definitely be a great defensive and rebounding starter for years to come.
Kemba on the other hand has a huge ceiling. And you have to take a chance on a guy like this when you don’t have a top pick.
STEVE SMITH!
Kemba just has that "look" in his eyes
That Kobe, Dwayne Wade, fiery stare.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVNIB8dOkn8
“Kemba Walker has the swagger to take the big shot, and the ability to make it”
I’m on board with this pick.
STEVE SMITH!
That's exactly what I thought too (Kobe at least)
For some reason this dude reminds me of the PG version of Kobe
This
is why I think MJ gravitated towards him. Kemba just has some of those unteachable qualities that can really push a team over the top.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Great picks Charlotte (sarcasm noted)
Get ready for another mediocre year…does Cam Newton play basketball?
Don't
Just don’t…
Did you get that a rebuild takes a couple years and there isn’t talent at where we picked to instantly become NBA finalists.
We did just fine
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 23, 2011 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
He's ok...
I’m not saying he is bad, but not a shooter which is what we need. We already ranked in top 15 in D…we are 29th in scoring…you think Carrol is gonna start or something?
23 ppg this year
Yeah that is not scoring. Seriously stop you clearly do not know the kid because this is the scorer we need
I actually did not watch the NBA when he was drafted so no
I dont really know what your talking about but ok haha
True
Awful draft this year in regards to what is available. I just don’t like the defensive picks. We can’t score to save our lives…and go and pick these 2
Next year is the year to draft for offensive firepower
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
T. Jones too
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Anthony Davis...
Kentucky is a one and done program…he could be at the top of the draft next year…dude is 6’10" and looked like a beast during showcases this year.
I like the picks, we drafted two of the players that I wanted.
My wish list: Walker, Biyombo, Montijunas, and Vucevic
WHO'S OUR CENTER ?
Hey MJ and Rich, now that Jack is gone we must have something $$ to at least go after a mid level center (Dalembert, Kaman, anyone!) but right now all we have signed is freakin’ Diop.
by chris in union county on Jun 23, 2011 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Kaman isn't even a free agent
And Kaman and Dalembert won’t fit the Bobcat budget. Kwame hopefully will. Trading Jackson didn’t save money. Mags earns slightly more. Trading Liv saved a little money, but that partially offset by moving up in the draft.
megette's contract matches RB stephen jackson's
so its a wash in dollars saved. theres no extra cap space from this deal
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't think you are paying attention
It’s a 2 part process… Drop the old, big contracts, in favor of young, cheap players. Maggette was part of the deal to make the Biyombo move. Now, when they unload him probably by next summer, we’ll have those younger pieces in place… Get it?
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Plus, it'll be easier to trade Maggette than Jax because he is younger and doesn't have the excess baggage.
If a contender comes calling at the deadline, we may be able to swing another Crash-like deal with Maggette and acquire some mid to late round picks for next year’s draft.
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
We got 2 1st's for Wallace right?
We should be able to net 1 1st for Maggette… Especially to a desperate team that needs an extra piece for their playoff push. That would give us 3 1st round picks next year. With our pick being possibly a high lottery pick.
This wouldn’t surprise me at all.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Exactly. That's what I think the plan is at this point.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Portland's pick isn't ours until 2013.
And I doubt Maggette would be able to net us a 1st. If his contract was expiring, certainly. But not with an extra year on it (unless he does the unthinkable and puts up HUGE numbers this year). The only trade scenario I see as a possibility this season is as we near the trade deadline, we do a three-team trade where one team gets Maggette, one team gets Diaw (and his valuable expiring), while we get a young role-player and a first round pick.
And that’s assuming we don’t trade Diaw this offseason (which I’m seeing as unlikely that we actually get a good deal for him, so hopefully we can get some value at the deadline).
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Maggette is 32
he isnt that much younger than Jackson and his contract is a million more. Any team willing to take that would probably be willing to take Jackson also…
That's true to an extent,
but you’re not factoring in Maggette has less baggage. I agree though, they are basically the same player with the same value. on the market. I like it because we basically traded Livingston for the right to move up 12 spots in the draft. We didn’t lose much trade value in this deal, or sacrifice cap room.
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Jackson is a better player than Maggette.
Maggette has a veerryy slight edge in offensive productivity, but Jax is one of the better defenders in the league still. We won’t get a first rounder for Maggette without packaging him with something else. Probably Boris (as I said above).
It was still a great, great trade though.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree that Jackson is a better player,
but with all of the added baggage (techs and all), it reduces him to about the same trade value as Maggette.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Considering that some people believed that Stephen Jackson should net two first round picks
I’d say Maggette is a downgrade. I don’t want to live in a world where Maggette can net two first round picks.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they both may be able to net 2 low first round picks
next year when their contracts are expiring, can’t see it at all this year though.
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
It's close
Jackson was one of the most inefficient scorers in the league last year. Granted, his leadership abilities will be missed.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 24, 2011 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually...This is from my upcoming article on trade street post but...
…Jax and Liv would have made a total of $12,760,000 in the 2011/2012 season, and $13,560,000 in the 2012/2013 season. Maggette is due $10,262,069 in the 2011/2012 season, and $10,924,138 in the 2012/2013 season. Now the savings over those 2 years is $5,133,793.00….
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 24, 2011 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Minus the 3mil for Biyombo buyout
subtract the pick we sold and that’s 1mil from the buyout
and Biyombo’s salary (idk the rookie scales for higher picks)
we saved about 2million…
Team can only pay 500K of any buyout.
the rest has to be paid by the player. And it’s not certain that he has to pay any buyout money it’s in the courts hands.
by BountyHunter on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I had heard his contract was written that if he was NBA drafted...
the EuroTeam got $ from his contract until it was paid off…or something like that
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 24, 2011 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Maggette's contract matches Jackson's
But we also dumped 7 million for Livingston’s contract.
My heart pumps no Kool-Aid
by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 24, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Jack and Magettee make the same amount of cash for the most part
No money was saved.
"I could never be a thug, they don't dress this well." - Malice
by Julius Coxswain on Jun 23, 2011 9:55 PM EDT reply actions
WHAT PRESSURE ? LOL
Hey Jack, too bad you lost all that blubber which would have insulated you in the icy north. Pack your long under wear for that hole known as Milwaukee !
by chris in union county on Jun 23, 2011 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
I'm happy with the picks. We got two of the players I wanted
My wish list: Walker, Biyombo, Montijunas, Vucevic
Hey T.S. you do know "Bis" is only 6'9" (Center, C'mon man !)
by chris in union county on Jun 23, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions
Ha I see you Bobcat
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
7'7" wingspan
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Had to get Kwame back on that bench
I love him there but not as a starter.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Soooo…Would you say he’s got Alexia quince wingspan? shudder
by ddbumpus on Jun 23, 2011 10:21 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
But he weighs more than a pound of feathers!
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Chandler is such a "fake tough guy" though
Had to quote Durant because I didn’t wanna get in trouble for what I really wanted to call him. He acted so damn tough on the Mavs all year but 6’8" Crash called him out for his poor rebounding while they were both in Charlotte. Me no like him.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
plus chandler had a fouling problem
which is why we called him “foul machine” at home games. hes not that good.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:12 AM EDT up reply actions
And I think his hands are as bad as Kwame's
even though they’re much bigger.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Jake voskuh didnt just win an NBA title!
Wasn’t he our last true center? Or was that othella Harrington, Ryan hollins, primoz brezec, or How about Sean may? Lol.
I kid, I kid.
by ddbumpus on Jun 23, 2011 11:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Don't talk about Primoz like that
Or I’ll hunt you down bumpus!
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 24, 2011 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess Kemba wasn't really falling down draft boards too badly eh?
I think most of the time the mocks had him going right around that #9 slot. I wasn’t particularly on board with the Kemba selection this morning but I’m excited to have him on the team now. He brings a lot of intangibles to the table and its not like he’s unathletic or anything. Would’ve preferred moving DJ and keeping Liv but I suppose they were too wary of Liv’s knee holding up with full starter minutes and then being left with a rookie starting every night at point. Also Kemba can not only develop into a fine player but a true leader as well. I feel like that gets undervalued sometimes.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
I think Kemba is so much more marketable then DJ
This was a great move for us from a badketball and media standpoint,
Oh yeah for sure
Will ESPN show some Bobcats highlights next year? :O
They do love them some Kemba.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I think our first round picks could not have been better. Kemba and Biyomba are both impact players. I think both players will contribute next year air Congo on D and Kemba will give us scoring. I dont get how you cant be happy drafting 2 impact players. I think Kemba has the potential to be ROY. call me crazy
I honestly feel like nobody can be upset
And if you are, Wikipedia the Bobcat’s draft history and just scan it over. I’ll even wait for you.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Trending upwards!!
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean like when we could have traded the 5th and 13th for Chris Paul or deron Williams. Boo to that!
by ddbumpus on Jun 23, 2011 11:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
On paper i think its one of our best drafts in history. After his workout i was all but convinced we was going to take Biyambo and Walker was a welcome surprise. I wasn’t sold on him as a NBA pro but he has that fire in his eyes and cold water in his veins when its time to make that last shot. Games just got more interesting to me. Kemba and Biyambo both will likely see big minutes next year
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by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 23, 2011 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
As of now
I’d go far as far as it is our best. Of course its only, what, an hour since the draft ended. Both our 1st rounders will see plenty of time on the court. And trading Jax away puts us one step closer towards getting the ‘cycle’ for our team down. These young’ns grow together to become the veteran base in the future and from there its a matter of injecting youth and mantaining continuity. And Kemba’s not only good on the court, his off court impact could be big. Kemba may not be much different from DJ in terms of distributing but he’s a far superior floor general, if you understand what I mean. I expect him to become the leader for our very young team.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 23, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Ok that just sounds childish
He’s a guy that has next to no chance, but we are taking a chance on, because there’s hardly any board left.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 23, 2011 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
He's gone
Traded to Oakland for cash…
"I could never be a thug, they don't dress this well." - Malice
by Julius Coxswain on Jun 23, 2011 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions
sold to GS
straight cash homey
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:14 AM EDT up reply actions
I heard MJ got 2 million for the pick
If that’s true, I don’t blame him. I know Tyler scored 9 PPG for the Tokyo Apache and is a high school dropout, so maybe we’ll regret it …………….. (sarchasm)
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 24, 2011 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
PG Comparison
Player A.
23.5 PPG .428 FG% ,330 3PT%
4.5 APG 2.3 TO
Player B
17.4 PPG .460 FG% .360 3PT%
6.7 APG 3.4 TO
Player C
19.2 PPG .439 FG% .381 3PT%
5.8 APG 2.8 TO
These are the final season college stats for three undersized PG’s who were the primary scorers for their college teams. Any guesses who these players are.
A is Kemba
B is Jonny Flynn
C is DJ Augustin
Augustin looks like the best of the three to me.
Chris Paul’s numbers (except PPG) blow all three away.
15.3 PPG .451 FG% .474 3PT%
6.6 APG 2.8 TO
PPG and NCAA tournament success do not predict NBA success very well.
Take into account
the fact that for most of the year Kemba was asked to do carry an unnecessarily heavy burden on offense while his teammates grew up. Jeremy Lamb didn’t really show up til the Big East Tournament. Kemba did what it took for his team to win.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Might as well go ahead and resign Cunningham
And garrett Temple…
ESPN had a poll yesterday: Kyrie Irving vs. Kemba Walker
Who would be the better PG? And Irving only had about a 5% favor. I personally think Derrick Williams was the closest to a sure thing in this draft. However if you are going PG, our is arguably as good a prospect as #1 overall.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
gonna throw this out there >>
anybody else NOT convinced biz markie is really a bobcat, and is gonna be packaged to houston?
heres the theory: kevin mchale clearly had a man crush on biyombo, and stated as much. houston just traded there only real center miller to minny as part of the flynn trade. houston like to play with undersized post players, like chuck hayes.
charlotte worked out SF marcus morris twice and loved he “ready to play” scoring touch. charlotte was in talks to move 9 for 14 & 23 before milwaukee called us. charlotte now has 2 scoring undersized PG’s who will want to start, only one can.
here is whats gonna happen in the next few days. once the 3 way is offical with physicals taken and passed, charlotte is gonna trade C bizmack biyombo& SF corey magette to houston for SF marcus morris C/ F jordan hill and SF/SG chase buddinger.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
new bobcats lineup
PG augustine/ walker
SG henderson/ buddinger
SF morris/ carroll
PF thomas/ diaw
C hill/ dijon mustard
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Is there any way that we could add Diaw in that deal?
"If talk is cheap, then my silence is diamonds." - Lupe Fiasco
by mikael matthews on Jun 24, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Yep
We would darn near have to take their whole team.
Diaw or Maggette would only work if we too Kevin Martin…
I just had an epiphany while typing….
Houston wants the “Team Changing Trade”…They have been saying this all offseason
They are also in the running for Josh Smith. The are one of the few teams with the assets. With Biyombo, they can make it work. ATL gets Biyombo and Diaw (and a few 1st rders from Hou) and maybe Hill. We get pretty much whoever we want (maybe and extra first rounder) and Houston gets Smith. Throw in Maggette and add Marvin Williams and it still works…
another option with the PG issue
includes goran dragic coming to charlotte and augustine going to houston, allowing a clear path for kemba walker to be the clear cut floor general in charlotte now.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions
so ....
1 walker/dragic
2 henderson/ buddinger
3 morris/ carroll
4 thomas/ diaw
5 hill/ diojn mustard
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions
The news of our interest in Biyombo did come out of nowhere yesterday
I heard all sorts of names all week, until about 5pm… Then all sources suddenly started claiming it would be Biyombo.
STEVE SMITH!
Thats exactly what I thought...
I was praying us moving up had some other motive behind it. I think what Brenden said makes sense. Well….at least I hope our FO is thinking the same thing. The Maggette thing threw me for a loop…and am I the only one who noticed Houston took Parsons too? Leaving them with Williams, Lee, Blakely, Parsons. Morris, Budinger and Martin on the wings? Not to mention the influx on PFs already on the the team. With Yao coming off the books 18mil, and them drafing Donatas Montie and trading away Miller. They have nothing if Chuck Hayes doesnt resign. Its gotta be more bc what forced Diaw to sign right before the draft? What did we gain from Maggette? And Augustin for Dragic and Flynn makes alot of sense huh? I actually traded Augustin for Dragic on 2k11 bc Dragic is a big PG and he can shoot the 3. (Barea with size).
I refuse to believe Maggette is part of our plan
Maybe we keep him one year. But he’ll eventually be unloaded, somehow to make room for a bigger-time FA. And I think having these young pieces in place, and cap space is part of the plan of enticing that future FA.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
I hope no one is getting warmed up to Maggette. He won’t be here long.
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Perfect landing spot for Maggette.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If we don't deal him this year, he'll be an expiring contract with a decent offensive game.
He’ll garner some interest next season for sure, especially if he manages to play well for us.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather have Biyombo personally
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 9:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Same here
"If talk is cheap, then my silence is diamonds." - Lupe Fiasco
by mikael matthews on Jun 24, 2011 9:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I am open to the idea
that cho is done dealing, but the signs point to people going, not staying. we never ever had biyombo in charlotte until 24 hours before the draft. and he was HEAVILY showcased on the internet, on purpose? i think so, like saying “look whose gonna be for sale folks”
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
also open to the idea
that biyombo might still grow a few inches in height ……IF…… hes really 18. I grew from 6’2 to 6’5 in college AFTER 18. so if he ends up 6’10 or 6’11 thats a major change.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
Highly doubtful
The official website already has a nickname for them, for chrissakes. Biyomobo and Walker will be in Bobcats uniforms next season, and I for one am thrilled about it.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
saw that
THUNDER & LIGHTNING !!
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
And they’ve already started PR moves with the Cats having Kemba and Bismack meeting fans in Charlotte today.
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 11:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I wish I was in Charlotte
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Jun 24, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
like that would be a terrible PR move…for so many reasons…
+1
Lol, I think that NAACP would have something to say about that.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions
AND SIMBA THROWS AN ALLEY OOP TO MUFASA.
BIIIIYOOOOOMBOOOOOO!
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two days later..............
Jesse Jackson: We are very disappointed with Michael Jordan, the Charlotte Bobcats, and the National Basketball Association for the stereotypical nick naming of two african american athletes with african nicknames.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Well... Biyombo is African.
People are too touchy feely now-a-days.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes they are.
The NAACP has other agendas. We don’t approve of those guys.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I laughed really hard when I heard that an NC Senator called them racist.
Because it is oh so true.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
They really are.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I wouldnt call it touchy feely
some ppl care about their Heritage. And giving them “jungle” names bc their roots are deeper than the “african american” and playing Lion King (synthetic versions of their Native music) mayb just be kinda racist…
by focuslja on Jun 24, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lol.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
I was thinking it was ironic that we picked Biyombo and they took Morris as well.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I don’t agree with any of this if we were goin trade with the Rockets we would have done the trade for their picks.
Coach Rivera, may we please have one of these FA Nnamdi Asomugha or Jonathan Joseph
Precisely
I like conspiracy theories as much as the next person… but logic needs to play a role too.
They got the players they wanted… simple as that
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Fyi
Magette can’t be traded for 6 months
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn't the big FA period NEXT summer?
I mean will there even be basketball in 6 months… Possibly not. It makes total sense that Maggette is just here to get Biyombo and if necessarily fill a roster spot, until we can make a better move.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Last CBA allowed teams to buy out a player immediately
I think we’ll likely buy out Maggette if that’s the case. The $2 million for Tyler supports this too
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 12:05 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Think we vould we wait until the deadline and trade him for a 1st round pick?
Like we did with Wallace?
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He’s not of the same caliber… now if he starts for us and puts up over 15 ppg then it’s a possibility
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
He will
Maggette has made a career of scoring lots of points for bad teams. He doesn’t have much competition at SF or as the #1 option on offense. I expect 20-25 PPG and 20-25 wins next season. However, Mags isn’t the kind of player good teams look for at the trade deadline. He requires lots of shots and doesn’t produce much besides PPG.
If he manages to score 20-25 PPG, then that's best case scenario.
We will almost certainly get a late first rounder for him if he manages to put up numbers like that. If we can’t get that for him this year, his expiring contract coupled with this 20+ PPG will certainly make him a valuable trade piece.
That’s only if he plays well for us though.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions
20 PPG doesn't mean he's playing well though
PPG is mostly a reflection of how much a player plays and how many shots he takes. Maggette is a useful player on a team that doesn’t have scorers because that’s what he does. Unfortunately he doesn’t do much else, and he doesn’t share well with others. Consider him the anti-Diaw.
Maggette isnt an expiring contract
so I doubt we get a first rd pick for him. I know Wallace wasnt either but he had more value to his team than Maggette will…
Although I'd still consider buying out Diop
I’m not a big fan of Maggette but he can contribute. Diop is useless. But I understand there is a $7 million difference too.
And I know you know this James but just so everyone else is clear on how the amnesty clause works (if it happens again): We can buyout one player and he doesn’t count against the cap or luxury tax. But MJ still has to pay him!
My heart pumps no Kool-Aid
by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 24, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not sure about NBA but in 6 months
there sure wont be any football, sold on that. thomas davis said so outside the arena last night in front of his whole family.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure why anyone would feel that away after all the progress made in CBA talks this week.
…but, to each their own. I’m on the opposite side of the spectrum; I fully expect a NFL season to begin, as scheduled, this fall.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
Kemba's going to LOVE playing for Paul Silas
What causes you to ride the bench under Silas? Passing up good shots.
Well I’ve read multiple sources now suggest he was the “most explosive scorer in the draft”… both in the paint and shooting from mid-range. Just what we need. Hopefully his size will not be an issue, because let’s be honest… We all know the potential limitations of having an undersized scorer.
STEVE SMITH!
anybody else got an answer to this question?
we have the wallace trade exemption (3 mill) so when magette hits our books, does his contract go down a little because of being absorbed into those exemption dollars? going from 12 mil to 7mill ?
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
No
An exception doesn’t change a contract in any way, it just allows you to take on more salary than you send out in a future deal. This trade was close enough I doubt the exception even comes into play.
by djwilliams11 on Jun 24, 2011 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions
You are correct
The exception would only kick in if we took in over 125% more than we sent out. In this case, we actually dropped payroll.
My heart pumps no Kool-Aid
by Bring Back Primoz on Jun 24, 2011 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
One of the most exciting things to me about drafting Biyombo is his age.
He is only EIGHTEEN years old (he turns 19 in August), and is already widely regarded as an absolute beast on the defensive end. I don’t think even he has any idea of what his ceiling truly is. I can’t wait.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
oops...wrong thread
but yeah, Kemba’s pretty cool, too. I mean, if you’re into that whole “ice-in-his-veins-clutch-assassin” vibe of his.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
You need to add Kemba for '11 ROY under Cam
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
I don’t think Brandon Knight on the Pistons or the Jimmer in Sac-town are going to outplay him.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
The New Bobcats roster as i see it..
PG D.J. Augustin, Kemba Walker
SG Gerald Henderson, Matt Carroll, Garrett Temple
SF Corey Maggette, Dominic McGuire, Eduardo Najera
PF Boris Diaw, Tyrus Thomas, Dante Cunningham, D.J. White
C Kwame Brown, Bismack Biyombo, DeSagana Diop
Barring we don’t trade Diaw anytime soon.(Before the trade deadline)
As for you guys that think we are gonna trade DJ anytime soon your crazy. We need him for depth if nothing else.
Coach Rivera, may we please have one of these FA Nnamdi Asomugha or Jonathan Joseph
On DJ: It’s not about what the Bobcats need… but what they can get. I don’t think we see him or Diaw dealt before the deadline… but I don’t think either ends the season in Charlotte
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 10:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And with this lineup...
We have to resign Temple, McGuire, Cunningham, and Kwame…
Just saying…
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Jun 24, 2011 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be happy just signing Cunningham and Kwame.
Temple was the worst offensive player in the league last season and I hate DMac.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd be floored if McGuire was brought back.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
by Newsinz on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Can we start a
GET DMAC AWAY!!! petition?
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol, he's a decent 15th man.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Ripping the Bobcats and Jordan Draft history on First Take…but hey we made The topic ticker for once…
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
Skip just said after the moves we the trade we did we are the worst team in pro basketball
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 24, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Word. I know OKC was the worst team in the league a few years ago.
They act like rookies can’t produce at all because they are rookies.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope so
Being the worst is better than being a .400 team. Bottom out and we’ll be in a nice rebuilding situation.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions
They had nothing positive to say about last night?
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
Graded it a D
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 24, 2011 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions
All 3 said D. Said Kemba and Biyambo doesnt mesh. Fear for Kemba in charlotte with a poor team around him. Think Jordan fell in love with Biyambo at last work out and thinks Kemba has that jordan desire in his eye. Basically ripped us a new one
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
They think Jordan thinks Kemba has that Jordan desire is what i meant
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 24, 2011 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions
I was watching
They think we got 2 players that are risks. Skip did not even think that Rich Cho made the picks. All 3 of them dont like MJ as a owner so they were very much against him. If this was the Spurs GM ( who Skip wants to put his dong into) then this would have been a great draft for us. I could tell be how they were talking they all just didnt like it because it was MJ.
Yeah but Cho was the one scouting biyambo so hard
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 24, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Smh. In such a weak draft, you can't really call anyone a loser for their picks.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
How the hell
does a defensive-minded center and a scoring, floor general PG not mesh? Did they change the rules of basketball last night? >_>
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
You got arguably the best defender, and a top 3 scorer
It makes total sense.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
big disagree
and I am not sold in biz markie either, but I would grade the draft a resounding B, and A+ if we swing a trade or if bitchslap colombo turns into ben wallace pt2
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Kemba Walker vs. Cam Newton
The 2 Championship winning hopes for Charlotte pro-sports right now. Who will have the greater pro career???
STEVE SMITH!
Wam Bam thank you Cam
"I have opinions of my own -- strong opinions -- but I don't always agree with them." - George Bush
"I know that you believe you understand what you think I said, but I'm not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant." - Robert McCloskey
by MMA_PITBULL on Jun 24, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Cam has more bust potential then Kemba
But he also has potential to change the way the QB position is played… Something nobody would say about Kemba.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions
side note NFL wise:
I saw thomas davis on the street outside TWCA last night going to the draft party, I shouted out “TD !! I hope you have a great season, go panthers” his response (and he is a positive guy in the papers) was as follows " theres not gonna be a season this year". WOW, so much for football in 2011
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions
Hahah I think he was messin' with you
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. Damn.
I'm gonna live forever, I'm never gonna die. The only thing I fear is I'm never gonna fly.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Jun 24, 2011 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
He's not in a position to know
Not a union rep, not a player rep… the players know as much as the fans do unless they represent their team at the table.
There will be a full 16 game season is 2011
by James Dator on Jun 24, 2011 11:46 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Ha Ha. I told you this last year.
Even JR alluded to there not being football. You need to listen to me James instead of always playing the optimist card ;)
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions
not sold on that
not by a long shot. you need 3 months of “offseason” to round things up, weve lost 4 games already, if it creeps into august they will announce a total loss by sept 30.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
and I want football to happen, and no stoppage of basketball either
its just totally unrealistic to expect a 2 week free agency period slash rookie free agent clusterfuck to happen in some mad scramble then have 2 weeks of “training” and then little to no practice games in 10 days to implement plans and schemes. and with them “considering” pushing the season ahead to february and march, forget it those stadiums are booked past 2/1/12.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who wants kemba on the floor IMMEDIATLY …. like starter from day 1 I feel like im dissing DJ who I really like but still kemba is bonafide!!!
follow me @JustinB_TU11
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by Justin704 on Jun 24, 2011 10:45 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
its likley with dj's personality
that he just assumes the #2 role behind walker right away. I felt no drop off from felton to augustine, but I still feel walker was picked wit hthe intent of putting DJ up for sale. he is our most valuable asset, one that could net us a starter in return, not just a pick or someone unproven.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Not day one
But if Kemba is outplaying DJ at midseason, I wouldn’t at all be opposed to inserting Kemba into the starting lineup. DJ deserves some amount of respect for what he’s done. Before anybody asks what he’s actually done, notice I only gave him enough credibility to last half a season if he falters and Kemba clearly outplays him.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions
Who cares?
Next year is a wash. Do whatever is best for Kemba’s development.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
JustinB?
bieber? that u?
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Bieber has Bobcats fever!
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Jun 25, 2011 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
overall
if you look at our draft to try to find a way that we can become INSTANTLY better, then you’re going to hate it.
yes, we added a very raw F/C that cant shoot, but we did it because his ceiling is stupid high.
yes, we added (another) undersized PG, but this one has a winning mentality.
these two pieces are both potential picks, and potential is what we want when you rebuild.
analysts are always going to negate the rebuilding idea because they want to see something get better instantly. i remember all the bashing Seatle/OKC got when they took Serge and Westbrook because they “wernt ready yet”.
if you go into the draft understanding what you’re getting, then you cant get a bust. if you’re expecting Biyombo to average 11 points a game, then you’ll find him to be an international flop.
but if you expect him to come in and play defense for 15-20 minutes, then he’s a steal.
same can be said for Kemba Skywalker (kinda)
if you’re expecting him to get 25 points a game (which would be nice), then you’ll be disappointed early on in his career. he can become that 25ppg person though, IN TIME.
gentlemen, like i’ve said all week, lets suck this year so we can go on a roll 2 years from now.
--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)
Analysts are so dumb
Because, yeah, there are tons of player’s available at the back of the lottery that are able to come in and make the All-Star team their rookie year right?
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly.
every report ive heard has been “i dont know why you get a big man that cant score” and they completely disregard his ability to defend.
scoring wins games; defense wins championships. just ask LeBron…
--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)
by StudMuffin15 on Jun 24, 2011 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
What the World doesn't know is
We just drafted the PG version of Kobe and mini Hakeem Alajuwan (probably spelled wrong though)
by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 11:44 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Minus the arsenal of post moves
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Heck he's only 18
Whose to say he can’t develop into a monster, he’s got time. I’m honestly excited because at 18 he’s still got room to develop.
by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 11:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Oh I know, I'm real excited
Don’t anybody jump on my because I’m not saying Bismack is the next D. Howard, but how was Howard’s game when he was taken #1 at age 18? Pretty non-existent.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:51 AM EDT up reply actions
Well at the Nike summit Bismack had what
Something like 10 points, 1e rebounds and 10 blocks (at least close to that), heck a couple years ago Howard just averaged around 10 points and 10 rebounds. I think this dude has potential because for the next 20 or so years he is going to be in a gym so heck, if he puts his mind to it he could shoot like Ray Allen or post like Dirk.
by Cocky1366 on Jun 24, 2011 11:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
12pts 11rbs 10blocks
again:
10 blocks.
not 3, not 5, 10.
--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)
by StudMuffin15 on Jun 24, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
and he was considered a huge risk coming out of high school to take over the proven Okafor.
ever notice how the city of Charlotte has always been shafted when it comes to big men?
Shaq over Alonzo
Howard over Okafor
JJ Hickson over Ajinca….
--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)
by StudMuffin15 on Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
18 = maybe?
21 + = probable
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions
When you break it down
basketball is a simple sport. You have to have more points than the other team when 0.0 buzzes on the scoreboard. A big man that can rack up the points but has no defense is basically equivalent to a player like Bismack.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 24, 2011 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Instantly better will happen next summer
We’ll have young high potential pieces in place. Maggette will be unloaded to free up tons of cap space. And we’ll use this to entice a big time FA to sign here.
STEVE SMITH!
by southtunnel on Jun 24, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes.
We have cap room, we’ll have another great young prospect after bottoming out this season, and we have Micheal Jordan as the GM. We’ll have a chance in FA. Will we get Chris Paul or Dwight Howard? Maybe, maybe not. If we do, great! We have instantly turned the team around, and our rebuilding will be nearly complete. If we don’t, no a huge loss. We’ll be awful still, but we’ll have another top pick in 2013, PLUS Portland’s 2013. Not to mention if we can get any value out of Boris’s expiring this season and Maggette’s next season, that’ll just be cake.
In the end, we’re not putting all our eggs in one basket (ala the Knicks) and have several backups if the best case scenario doesn’t pan out.
I just hope and pray the front office doesn’t do the worst possible thing and sign a lesser FA for big money just because they missed out. I’ll pass on the Rudy Gays and Joe Johnsons of the world, thanks.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 24, 2011 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like Cho is going to ensure we don't make any short sighted moves like that.
He really seems like a guy who is very focused on sustained success and long term goals.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
here's an interesting fact:
Cho has traded the same pick 3 times now.
19 was the Hornets until Cho traded for it with Portland;
Cho then sent the 19th to us for Crash;
Cho now sent the 19th to Milwaukee.
9 degrees from Kevin Bacon? not really, but maybe Jimmer
--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)
Cho treated that pick like a bad penny.
LOL
by BountyHunter on Jun 24, 2011 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
thats more reason why he like to flip
his assets many times. like flipping a traded player or pick for more players or picks. I would expect the next to get his shipping news is boris diaw.
"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.
by bobcatsbrendan on Jun 24, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So you think Boris nets a SG/SF?
I’m trying to calculate who
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 25, 2011 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
How about this...
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=294xchr
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by andrewlail76 on Jun 25, 2011 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
I know we don't want bad contracts coming back...but...
DJ/Kemba/?
Hendo/Carroll/Iggy
Iggy/Maggette
Tyrus/Bismack/White
Kwame/Diop/Bismack
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Jun 25, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
You do realize multiple teams have offered Philly much more than that for Iggy
You can’t get something for nothing. Also, I expect Diaw to be in the starting lineup on opening day whenever that is. His passing will become much more valuable with a non-passing SF taking over for Jax and a non-passing PG taking over for Livingston.
No.
We’re not trying to win anytime soon, no reason to take any big contracts on.
Boris should only be traded for a draft pick, and if he can’t get a draft pick, don’t trade him.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 25, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Not worth it.
I echo Lazy Dog’s sentiments exactly. Iggy is not the guy we want to use two valuable expiring contracts for.
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
Very true
Must stick to the plan…rebuild properly
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Jun 26, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
In this trade CLEARLY
Charlotte came out on top
Milwaukee and Sacramento got hosed.
by PatsR18andDONEwithoutCHEATING on Jun 24, 2011 8:19 PM EDT reply actions
I don't know about Sac-Town getting screwed
If Jimmer pans out hes the perfect backcourt mate for Tyreke, who’s moving to the 2. But Minny did get effed in the a on Saturday.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 25, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
sac still stinks but they have more assets now eventhough too many offensive players who need ball
by jadedeed2327 on Jun 26, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
True
I don’t think they can have Cousins and Tyreke on that team together.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 26, 2011 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Well reports are out that they are making a run for Aaron Brooks...
Well if they get Brooks, they look like they could be lower playoffs and pull a Grizzlies…
No way could they pull a Grizzlies
The Grizzlies playoff run was mainly predicated on their selfless ball movement and the fact that they had two dominant big men in the paint. Show me an offense with DeMarcus Evans and Tyreke Evans that could even meekly qualify as having good ball movement.
"If ya ain't first, you're last."
- Ricky Bobby's Dad
"There is no evidence that the tongue is connected to the brain."
-Frank Tyger
by KaiserBromley on Jun 27, 2011 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions
It's not about where the teams were before the trade.
It’s about the value of the trade in and of itself. Disregard the status of the teams, and evaluate the trade based solely on all the pieces involved.
Bobcats = Win.
Bucks = Meh.
Kings = WTF?
Cam Newton for '11 ROY!
all teams still stink although bucks might make lottery but unlikely
by jadedeed2327 on Jun 25, 2011 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Bucks saved some money so "meh" is pretty good in their case
Maggette and Salmons were two of their bad contracts they wanted to move, and they got rid of them both while taking back only one similar contract in Jackson. This trade was pretty good for them. I don’t understand what the Kings were thinking though. They must have really good memories from the first time Salmons played for them.
do u think bucks are making playoffs, they still are flawed
kings trying to get assets
by jadedeed2327 on Jun 26, 2011 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d rather have Salmons playing the SF than SG for one. And they have Tyreke, Thornton, Jimmer, Cousins, Dalembert, Casspi, Thompson and word is they are going after Aaron Brooks. I think they will be just fine with the right coaching.
Most of those guys are a black hole.
A bunch of me-first players who need the ball in their hands to be effective will not make a good team.
by Panthers FTW on Jun 27, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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