Diaw, Kwame Eat Knicks Alive, Help Beat Knicks 114-106
by Ben Swanson on Mar 26, 2011 10:10 PM EDT
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With an arena sounding more like Madison Square Garden than Time Warner Cable Arena, the Bobcats sent home much of the crowd disappointed, but pleasing the home fans with a hard-fought impressive win over the visiting New York Knicks.
Eight Bobcats scored in double figures, led by Boris Diaw with 20 points, 8 rebounds and 5 assists and zero turnovers. And even though D.J. Augustin couldn’t find his shooting rhythm, he was handing out dimes with ease – something that we haven’t seen in too long. Stephen Jackson had 19 points on a pretty ugly shooting night that was salvaged by four treys. Kwame Brown was also exceptional, grabbing seven rebounds, scoring 11 points and blocking a pair of shots. I’d go on listing who had good games, but I’d just be listing just about all of the Bobcats box score. Carmelo Anthony dropped 36 points and singlehandedly brought the Knicks back into the game before they ultimately fell.
First quarter: In an unforeseen move, Stephen Jackson started for the Bobcats. With the Knicks playing defense on par with Flat Stanley’s, an aggressive Boris Diaw took advantage, hitting 3-4 FG for 8 points and dishing two assists in the first period. Jackson starting strong with two threes but missed his other three shots. Henderson had some nice takes but Augustin couldn’t get much of anything to fall. On defense, Jack is having trouble with Melo and Stoudemire’s athleticism is bothering Diaw, who doesn’t match up well with those types. The Bobcats ended the period down 31-30.
Second quarter: Wow, the Bobcats just really took it to the Knicks in the second. Boris continued to be aggressive, unafraid of taking jump shots, driving or backing opponents down in the post. Livingston was outstanding, using his post game to score over any guard and Matt Carroll even got in on the fun, with 10 points on 4-5 shooting. The Knicks simply just played no defense as they allowed Charlotte to score their most first-half points for the season. New York on offense had no flow and got next to nothing form their bench. Carmelo was a lone bright point with 16 points on 7-11 shooting from the floor. The Bobcats outscored the Knicks 32-15 in the second to lead 62-46 at halftime
Third quarter: The Bobcats nearly folded like so many playing card houses by letting up on defense. They started hot with Jackson and Boris each hitting from distance, stretching the lead to 20. That dwindled as the Bobcats lost focus. Jackson got hit with a technical and started putting up poor shots. When Silas subbed Livingston and the bench mob back in, that all changed. Liv got back where he left off with his scoring. The other bench guys put in their usual effort and prevented a complete collapse. The Bobcats led 92-79 going into the fourth quarter.
Fourth quarter: Remember that collapse I said the bench helped prevent? Turns out it just hadn’t really come yet. The Bobcats let the Knicks get within five. I thought they were crumbling and Anthony would lead the Knicks to a close win. But the team pulled together, overcame some truly heinous Stephen Jackson shots and Kwame Brown was subbed in. What’s that you say? How could Kwame’s substitution make a difference? Well his strength and ability to seal off his defender proved invaluable for the whole night, especially with his dunk off the Stephen Jackson assist with two minutes to go. And so the Bobcats held on, made their free throws and got their second win in a row.
And Indiana lost again tonight, this time to the Pistons. I had their last two games as W’s for the Pacers and the last two for the Bobcats as L’s. So I guess the playoff hopes won’t die tonight.
Odds and Ends
- Shaun Livingston, Dante Cunningham and Matt Carroll combined for 33 points off the bench.
- The Bobcats out-rebounded the Knicks 46-39 and 16-10 on offensive rebounds. Their offensive rebounding was led by Dominic McGuire who had five all in the first few minutes of the second quarter.
- This photo pretty much sums up the game for the Knicks.
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this makes me wonder
with the two HUGE wins recently, i wonder what exactly are the Bobcats plans heading into the offseason? normally I would make several (usually unpopular) suggestions/assumptions. But the recent surge has me flabergasted (or does it? haha) about the direction the team is headed.
The Cats make it hard on their fans
My only suggestion is to invest in a beast PF if available and a SG to compete with Hendo.
ezrock
The 9 million dollar ?
They are both inconsistent, Tyrus has better D Boris has better O. If I was the cats GM depending on who’s available , that’s in our budget would have me lean one way or another. Since we owe the Bulls a 1st round pick for tyrus and we all like DJ White Tyrus might have to go. I stated before he is not my prototype PF. But not an easy decision.
ezrock
The only way That I would trade Tyrus if it was for this and focuslja I know youll hate it lol
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=45rxdpz
and of course include draft picks
and then draft Kenneth Faried or Jajuan Jonoson
Leaves us with not much scoring
and with the roster left we have not much to entice him to stay, and still limted in what we can do financially until after Diaw and Diop come off the books.
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Thats why I dont see a debate
About Boris or Tyrus obviosly Boris goes i was just showing what i woiuld trade him for
If we trade a PF I don't think it will be Tyrus, and I don't think it will be a star we get back in return
We either let Boris expire next year, or we trade him similar to Nazr and Gerald → for young talent and or picks.
I don’t think Tyrus yet becuase we invested in him only at the start of this season so I assume we will give him some time to develop into the player we think he can be before we give up on him.
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We shouldnt give up on TT
Honesty maybe he wont be a starting PF but he can be a great 6th man and every championship team needs that
Even 2K11 has this to say about Tyrus Thomas,
“He’s got to realize what being great means for Tyrus Thomas. Maybe it’s just being a role player on a really good team”.
Something that’s been bothersome about him since he’s return, and really throughout his whole career, is his lack of consistency with running the plays. He’s out of position all of the time, on offense and defense and he hasn’t been trying to develop his moves around the basket as much as his jumpshot. It’s all a mental thing with this guy. Luckily, he’s still very young and can turn it around, but agree with 2K. I think on a championship contending team, at this point in his career, Tyrus is simply that great role player everyone needs to come in and change the pace of the game on pure athleticism. He lacks the discipline to be a top dog at this point.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
"He shows more potential than numbers."
+1. I also love that 2k11’s take on Tyrus. Very spot on.
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah.
They got it right with their commentary on him.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Definitely. Same with Hendo, Livingston, and the 2 DJs
Every championship team needs an effective group of complimentary players, and this group suits the bill perfectly.
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Starters, I guess.
But probably not the 1st and 2nd options on offense. IMHO.
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Not right now,
but if they were a championship contending team, they would be.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
DJ probably has reached his ceiling or close to it
But Gerald is already a beast defender and since starting he averages 12 ppg which isnt good for a starter but you have to know nothing about basketball if you dont see the talent in this man. I predict at the least he will be a Gerald Wallace type scorer, he gives you 17 ppg and defends like they were attacking his mother.
Oh, nah, I'm a huge fan of Henderson now.
I’ve actually said a few times he has “star/superstar” potential. I’m just wondering how he would fit his offense into a championship contending team. The good thing about him is he continues to get better every night. He’s not at that point right now where he’d be the head man or even the second option on a championship contending team, but he is definitely on his way.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions
He may never be the main or 2nd option
But he can develop into a starter on a championship team. I can see talent pouring out of his pores when I look at him haha
I think he's already a starter on a championship contending team.
Plug him into Chicago right now and they’d be crazy.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Add him to the Knicks. Championship? Yes.
Or not.
"If talk is cheap, then my silence is diamonds." - Lupe Fiasco
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
plug any halfway decent Sg into Chicago
they are #1 w/ Keith Bogans so its not fair to say plug Hendo in. I agree they would be better tho. Plug Courtney Lee or Mayo in.
Lol. F it, where is flip murray?
Just illustrating even the contenders have holes in their rosters. It’s really about having good coaching and halfway decent backups. Charlotte is already at the point where we would be ready to.compete if we added one major piece. The question is can Henderson develop into that. I don’t see why not, other than his somewhat limited height.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 12:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
u mean limited jumpshot
i would love to have Flip back. even Larry Hughes (player role: utility guy) lol. wtf does that mean anyway? Larry Hughes may take bad shot sometimes but he does make critical shots and is consistently good for about 10pts 4assts…
12 PPG is pretty decent for a starter. If Hendo can start knocking down threes a little more he will a solid starter.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
not on this team
name a team that has a 12ppg SG, and i bet they arent the #1 or 2 or #3 option (which we need a sg that is a #2 at least, like JRich and JAX were). also they are probably on a sorry team ahem
oh i thought you mean period. yeah if they are the number 1 or 2 option on offense scoring that much then your team most likely sucks. lol.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 30, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions
so in ur opinion what scoring option is Hendo exactly?
i just wanna know your honest opinion.
Hendo is...
if a SG cant be 2nd option on the type of team we have now, then he is not ready
Boris
When he plays like we need him to this is what happens, everybody plays better. Good win cats the Knicks suck, they gutted their team for melo. big mistake they will live over the cap forever, lucky for them they are rich and a big market team. Go Cats I had a great time at the cable box. Let’s beat the Bucks too, I’ll be there cheering us on.
ezrock
They had been working all of these years just to avoid this type of situation
and Walsh was forced into making the trade. The Knicks will turn it around eventually (not this year I don’t think) and will be fine. But if that core of Billups, Melo, and Amare can’t contend with the top teams of the east now, you wonder if they ever will be able to. But, I know people won’t say a thing about how bad the Knicks are if they play the Celtics/Bulls/Heat in the playoffs and go back to NY with a 2-0 tie or even just a 1-1 score in their series.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i think that is an amazing core
if they trade Fields (talent is not the reason they kept him) and keep Chandler, they are waaaay better
They just a need a solid group of bench guys to support their core
Same problem with the Heat. The 2 Williams, Jeffries, Walker, D. Brown(yeah!), and Douglas ain’t gonna cut it. Those are solid bench guys for a D-League team, not a NBA championship-contender team.
"If talk is cheap, then my silence is diamonds." - Lupe Fiasco
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I really hate the Buck
i hope the whole team scores 20 haha. Corey Maggette sux and i hate that they paid him what they did like he is some kinda star. Corey Maggette = Quentin Richardson
You do realise that the Bucks didn't give him that contract, he was
traded by Golden State along with a 2010 second round pick in exchange for Charlie Bell and Dan Gadzuric on 6/22/10 (signed his current contract with GSW as a free agent).
I like the Bucks but I am a little bias to them becuase I follow the career of a fellow Aussie in Bogut.
I like the Bucks because they work hard on D.
Don’t know why they’ve sucked so much this year, but they are really underachieving.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions
For some reason.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions
last year was purely
them playing off of talent and fumes. now they have to have a stable system. I think Joe Alexander (i kno i kno) is better than Maggette. coming out of college early was the biggest mistake of his career.
Bogut is just starting to play as good as he did last year. Not to mention Delfino and other important guys were banged up a lot this year with them. It’s kind of sad to see them struggling after how decent they played last year.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Bogut has said that he is still not right in his arm and that he needs more surgery at the end of the year to removed scar tissue and clean it out. He probably came back to early → especially considering how poorly he is shooting the ball this year.
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No he isn't worth that -> another case where the team went nuts because it had salary cap space
but I think he is being under utilised with the Bucks and I think that he is a pretty damn good player. Probably needs to try and get traded somehow to a team that needs him to start rather than being a bench player.
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Remember the good ol' Clippers team?
Brand, Maggette, Richardson, Miles, Mcinnis, etc. Such a fun team to watch. Lol
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Hell yeah.
The head band, head pounding team. They were my favorites for a while.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Lmao. They had 22 at halftime the other night against Boston.
I thought it was a joke when I first seen it.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Good win.
This was a pretty entertaining game to watch, I might add, although it’s a shame there were so many Knicks bandwagon fans at TWC. Great performance by the Bobcats as a whole, and by that I mean they operated effectively as a cohesive team. We’ve got a pretty nifty second unit too.
Bobcats won tonight. Pacers lost. Bucks lost. Knicks are sinking. This is going to be hilarious here down at the homestretch.
Even if we missed the playoffs,
just to see the Knicks miss the playoffs or come close to missing it would be a joy. I don’t know why I hate them now. I mean, it’s not a passionate hate. It’s just I don’t like Carmelo like that anymore. Never was a big fan of the guy, but he spit on a lot of organizations throughout this whole process, and I think he’s getting what he deserves. I just hate that a classy guy like Billups has to go through it as well.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions
The Knicks can still miss the playoffs?
Wow. I thought they already clinched it. Or was it the Hawks?
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
It's the Hawks.
The Knicks are only 4.5 games ahead of us at this point. If they lose out, or even just lose a big percentage of their remaining games, they will miss the playoffs.Highly unlikely, but they are not showing me that they will change things soon either.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions
It would almost take
a monumental collapse for them to miss out of the playoffs. Sure, they’re are on a bad losing streak now, but one would think that given their talent, they’ll be able to hold it together to just get by. But who knows.
Like many of you, I too would enjoy seeing them miss the playoffs.
by Roger, Roger on Mar 27, 2011 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i wouldnt
i would like to see Miami miss the playoffs tho (i cant stand that team). But that wont happen. if the Knicks miss tha playoffs it would take away from the excitement. and certain series would be better with Carmelo and Amare. imagine the drama of a sweep or total transformation of them making the Finals. it makes for better ball. i could deal with the Pacers or Hawks out but Knicks make for exciting basketball none the less.
Great win, especially on a back to back
loved that fact that we got imput from everyone that played tonight.
This post game quote by Chauncey Billups cracked me up:
I read it several times just to make sure he wasn’t talking about another team! Nice try, Mr. Big Shot, but the only teams that need 120+ points to beat us are those with defenses as bad as the Knicks.
That’s not to say we didn’t take full advantage of their defensive ineptitude, which is not a given. Everyone from Cunningham to Carroll & Livingston were hitting open jumpers, and Diaw shattered his personal record by having two aggressive games in a row.
It was nice to see Augustin’s assists up (and his TOs down) again for the first time in a good while. White & Cunningham are big targets who have been rewarding Augustin lately by finishing a possession with an assisted basket.
Kudos to Hendo & Kwame for a handful of stiff blocks throughout the night. We actually played really strong defense overall, which is weird to say when you see that we gave up 104 points. The Knicks would’ve have been blown out of the Cable Box without Melo. How’s that “superstar buddy system” going, Mr. Anthony? Mr. Stoudemire? Anyone?
I’m still very worried about Jack’s hamstring. I just hope he isn’t pushing himself too hard, and will listen to his inner voice of reason (since he probably won’t listen to anyone else) if his leg bothers him enough to slow him down.
Bring on the Bucks!
Cats' Magic number: 9
Games remaining: 10
Jim Mora: "Playoffs?! Don't talk about...playoffs? You kiddin' me?"
I just hope he isn’t pushing himself too hard, and will listen to his inner voice of reason
Looking back at his past and all the issues he has had that inner voice is not at all reasonable.
lol...good point
Cats' Magic number: 9
Games remaining: 10
Jim Mora: "Playoffs?! Don't talk about...playoffs? You kiddin' me?"
Lmao.
I read that too. I was like is he talking about the Bobcats? Can’t be. Lol.
Then I read what Melo was saying. Talking about how the Knicks talk amongst themselves about how some teams shouldn’t even be on the court with them. Smh. Even in defeat, he still runs his mouth like he’s on LeBron’s level or something. Melo needs to wake up and realize that until he becomes a solid perimeter defender, he’s nothing but Michael Redd 2.0.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed they are.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
I hate both teams for the same reason and everyone else, and yet league popularity is at unseen heights. The NBA is better off with the way things are right now. And it’s not like it marginalizes teams like the Bobcats. Now they go out with a chip on their shoulder proving you don’t have to hoard max contracts to win. Really, everyone wins.
Speaking of players running their mouth, I just love what Derrick Rose said after the Bucks game:
"The worst thing you can do is give me confidence no matter what I’m doing. If I get any type of confidence, it’s going to be hard to stop me."
Very nice. MVP material indeed. I just hope they can win it all.
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. I was just reading that a few minutes ago.
Made me chuckle. Derrick Rose’ about to get his swag up and try to take over the league for real.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
But man, if he turns out like that LeBron James clown, i'll be dissapointed.
I hope that he’d stick with his game and avoid doing stupid antics. He can really win multiple championships with Coach Thibs by his side. It’s like LeBron = WWE, while Rose = UFC. Lol.
"If talk is cheap, then my silence is diamonds." - Lupe Fiasco
by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
He doesn't seem like that type of player
He’s one of my favorites to watch right now. I’ll take a Rose or Durant over a LeBron any day. Maybe not as talented, but look at the positive chemistry they bring without all the distractions.
Melo is definately on Lebron’s level. They are both Great. Melo is a better natural scorer. his jumpshot is automatic. His drive to the basket is right there on par with Lebron’s. He doesnt fit the system. Simply put. Do i like Melo as a person? No. But he is an amazing talent that didnt consider he was playing for Mike No-D Antoni b4 he made his move. Melo, Wade, James, Bosh, Amare, Paul are cowards. Mega teams have ran its course and actually pretty boring to watch unless they are losing. They ruin the word “legacy”. And the excitement of basketball as a whole. Kobe, Kevin Martin, Durant, Rose, Dirk realize that they are great but they also know that they can NEVER be bigger than the SPORT. This is why they are slowly becoming favorites or heros against the villianized superteam
the NUGGETS = the anti superteam
along with the Blazers and 76ers. These teams rely less on star power and more on chemistry and strategy. and if the Cats dont make the playoffs, I will be rooting for them in the playoffs. Along with the Lakers/Bulls.
Melo doesnt make his teammates better
And can’t carry a team on his own like Lebron has. Insert Bron into Melos place on Denver, and they would have a ring right now. Combine that with the fact the the only part of his game he excels at if offense (with average shooting percentages) and I just don’t say he’s at Brons level at all. Melo in my eyes is a second tier star like Joe Johnson.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 12:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no way
I agree Melo DOESNT do alot of things. but i disagree that he CANT do those things. When He plays Lebron or Kobe, his defensive levels are superb. I hate he picks and chooses when to utilize certain parts of his game. but he is a just as good
We'll have to agree to disagree on that.
I just don’t put Melo on the level of Lebron, Kobe, Wade, or Durant.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 2:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I kinda agree. Maybe he needs a coach that will get him to maximize his potential in all facets of the game. He is a way better scorer than Lebron, Durant and Wade. The guy can put the ball in the basket in so many ways but he does have a lot of bad habits to his game. I mean Durant has a way better jumper than Melo but the guy can post you up, slash and hit the Jumper pretty well. Those other guys are good at maybe one or two of those things listed. Melo is also a good rebounder for his position also. I think if he stopped settling for so many pull up J’s and posted up more while looking for his teammates the team could get back on track.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
It's all a mental thing with Melo.
He has the skills, he just doesn’t choose to use them night in and night out. Like Focus said, he’ll bring it against the top talents in the league (which is why I still think the Knicks are a dangerous playoff team), but he’ll also let lesser talents take advantage of him when he’s not fully engaged.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 28, 2011 8:36 AM EDT up reply actions
True
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Redd 2.0 is going a little too far, don’t you think? LOL.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Lol. Hell, back in the day,
Redd could shoot the lights out and was good for about 30 a game. I didn’t mean to disrespect Melo like that, but at this point I just see him as only a prolific scorer. He needs to have Kobe’s mentality, then I could put him up there.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 28, 2011 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Melo is still a better scorer than Redd ever was though. Redd was a better shooter but Melo can post up and slash good and his jumper is okay spotting up or off the pull up. The dude can score in so many different ways it isn’t even funny. Redd in his prime whole game revolved around that jumper. Kinda how Durant is now. Durant has a really good jumper and gets lots of fouls which helps him score a lot also.
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions
That's true.
Melo is actually a BEAST around the basket. He should use that part of his game more often, posting up more.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 28, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
SPIKE LEE
Hey Spike tell us how our A – - tastes !!!
by chris in union county on Mar 27, 2011 6:44 AM EDT reply actions
Great summary & great win.
"You run plays to get open. If you're open, and you don't shoot, what's the point of running the play?" - Coach Paul Silas of the Charlotte Bobcats
Ugh. Another game where Bobcat fans are almost outnumbered by the opposing team's fans.
That’s why I say we still need to be pushing for the playoffs. We gotta be one of the only teams in the NBA with fans like that.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 9:31 AM EDT reply actions
Trust me we arent I promise bandwagon fans are everywhere
Especially small market towns. You can see all the other fans at other arenas.
Yeah, it was pretty bad at the Bulls at Bucks game
I watched that last night after our game, and it was very similar. Tons of Bulls fans all over the place, often louder and more prominent than Bucks fans.
by Roger, Roger on Mar 27, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
That's a little different though since those cities are close to each other
I used to live in Milwaukee and some of my co-workers commuted there from Chicago.
"I could never be a thug, they don't dress this well." - Malice
by Julius Coxswain on Mar 27, 2011 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Dvr
Did anyone DVR the game? Bruce is telling me he saw me several times last night
I know we were on the scoreboard at the last timeout…
I’d just love it if anyone had a DVR of the game and could send me a DVD of it
:-)
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by andrewlail76 on Mar 27, 2011 9:55 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Steve Jackson
When is he going to realize that the ref that give him the tech foul don’t like him? He just talked a lot to that ref and surprised he didn’t T him out of the game? Steve keep playing hard and laugh at these refs and this team will keep winning. Go Bobcats
no refs like JAX
and i love it. he doesnt conform to media babyface. but he is just as good as the mega stars. he just was a little too late in getting his chance to shine. he speaks his mind. there a couple more talents who will never get their just due bc they are not exactly slaves to “David Stern and his minions”. Zach Randolph (snub) Demarcus Cousins (snub) Baron Davis (snub)…its a few more but these guys can/do play at superstar levels and will NEVER EVER get the props they deserve. and its sad
Thats very true.
I can’t remember the last time I seen Jack get dominated by a kobe or Lebron.
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A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 12:17 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
About DJ A
A lot of us have been down on Augustine, newsinz made a comment that I feel the same way about. The trade gave him two new guys that can finish a play with a shot for an assists. This is DJ’s first year starting after 2 years of LB hell and wing players and centers that can’t shoot. He need’s scorers around him, then we would not complain that he is shoot first PG. He was really giving NY the business last night. I can only imagine if he was on a better built team to play with, he would be a heck of a weapon. His lack of defense would not bother me he makes up for that with offense. As for example Rondo is a heck of a distributor, but look at who he plays with. The strategic way to defend Rondo is to not let him penetrate, cut off the lanes and let him shoot from beyond the foul line area. He can’t shoot, that’s his down fall as highly rated as he is. If Boston didn’t have the big three he would be wack. DJ will continue to be a better PG he needs better team mates.
ezrock
i totally agree
DJ has a high scoring aptitude. But i think he should be a 3rd scoring option. Kinda like when Gerald/JAX were together. But this time around we should have a SG that doesnt have to create their own offense (like both Geralds or Marion does)…JAX can create his own offense but he doesnt have to and he is a natural SF. With DJ’s quickness and ability to drive, Diaw could be his best friend on the kickout. That and a knockdown shooter at the SG (doesnt have to be a 3pt shot just a long range 2 that can spread the offense) and Augustin is top 15-20 in the league
then the bench with...
Livingston (speed, drive, ability to distribute) and Gerald (speed, leaping ability) White (outstanding paint play) and (lets just say we keep) Tyrus (paint play and 15ft jumper). We got a crazy bench. I dont like Pryz so i’d rather mention Diop.
Pryz
I don’t think he will be back, with two major knee surgeries and his age. He has no offense his defense and rebounding is not better than Diop. We also have not choice but to play Diop that contract is a killer, but he showed some improvement before he got hurt. Tyrus’s inability to score close to the basket unless he’s flashing in for a dunk really hurts our power game. And causes double teams on our perimeter players. This is the sequence on how Tyrus got hurt against the Pacers. When he blocked that dunk attempt on Dante Jones and was called for a foul, which was a clean block he ran to half court dropped an f bomb and lost it. On offense the next play he demanded the ball to prove a point, he was out of position to receive the pass it went out of bounds off his finger tips. Back on defense he was still pissed, He went out of his way to block that short jumper in the lane got all out of wack landed hard and bruised his ribs. It was all his fault because he lost his composure. I watched all develop from my seat. That’s the type psycho stuff that can hurt our team if he can’t control him self.
ezrock
by ezrock on Mar 27, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow...didnt know it happened like that
well those actions are detrimental to the team. Esp if u are injuring urself and minimizing the production of 45mil. If u noticed then Im sure the coaching staff were watching. that very sequence might be an very big part of what happens at the PF position this offseason. (having them both is great but it would make more sense to move one). i think Diaw realized that w/ Tyrus making such a mistake, he had a chance to prove himself (being that he has been written off by alot of fans and analyist as a major piece going forward)…hence the “madman” BoJo V.2
Spot on recount of Thomas' immature antics
Not mention right after he fell to the ground from the rib injury, and he rolled over in agony, he started repeatedly kicking the ground like a toddler throwing a temper tantrum. I actually thought that part was hilarious.
Cats' Magic number: 9
Games remaining: 10
Jim Mora: "Playoffs?! Don't talk about...playoffs? You kiddin' me?"
In so much pain that he can violently kick at the hardwood floor with both legs, like a 2 year old?
If he’s going to wildly flop around like a fish out of water, then I am going to laugh. Out loud.
In all seriousness, did you see the play? He did everything short of pound on the floor with one hand, and suck on his thumb with the other.
Cats' Magic number: 9
Games remaining: 10
Jim Mora: "Playoffs?! Don't talk about...playoffs? You kiddin' me?"
oh yea lol
When he went down i thought it was a serious injury, only to find out that it was bruised ribs…
Not funny
How many on this board have had bruised ribs? Happened to me at a pickup game last year, and had to be the most pain I had ever been in. And, I’ve had more than my share of other sports injuries (including broken bones). Just sayin…
by CatsFan_Chris on Mar 28, 2011 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Lmao. Me too!
I was telling my boy tyrus is a big ass kid. That sequence is really the whole reason I posted that 2k quote and feel like right now he should be a role player. He isn’t all there mentally.
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 4:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Lmao. I swear
I was telling a friend about that whole sequence. He was demanding the ball and livingston threw it right out of bounds. He was already ready to snap, that made it worse.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 27, 2011 4:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I saw that too. Didn't know what to feel for him after that sequence of events.
Just way too Andray Blatche-y antics by Tyrus. We need a LB or Jerry Sloan type of coach who can mold him into a more mature basketball player.
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by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol. I was wanting to feel bad for him,
but when I seen him kicking the ground throwing a fit, I couldn’t help but bust out laughing.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 28, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
Pryz
I think he’s just waiting for his contract to expire so he can re-up for the league min. with Port.
by chris in union county on Mar 27, 2011 3:03 PM EDT reply actions
Just heard from hoopsworld
That Toronto is open to moving Bargnani. Who trading for him be a good idea?
He seems a bit like Diaw to me -> lacks that killer instict / competitive drive to get the best out of himself every night
but the thing that scares me off is his contract:
2011/12: 9 mil
2012/13: 10 mil
2013/14: 11 mil
2014/15: 12 mil
Under the new CBA he will be very, very expensive.
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His contract
is exactly why Toronto is open to moving him. MJ is not going to touch that one, and I don’t blame him one bit.
Cats' Magic number: 9
Games remaining: 10
Jim Mora: "Playoffs?! Don't talk about...playoffs? You kiddin' me?"
Bargnani is not a center....
He’s a PF/SF in a C’s body. He could be a great 6th man off the bench though….
Bargnani Is definatley not a 6th man
But we need a SF and the way people are talking Tyrus isnt are starting PF so really it might be good for us
actually Bargnani would be a great 6th man...
I have a friend who’s a die hard Raps fans, and he thinks so too. Barg is a SF/PF in a C’s body. It would likely take a couple first rounders and a role player to get him, so he’s kinda out of the question.
Better then Boris
And then have Tyrus coming in behind him for defense decent 1,2 punch at PF if yopu ask me. But I would only give up Boris and one 1st rounder maybe 2 but I dont know.
Bbargnani averages 22 pts. and 5 rebounds a game. Yea, better than Boris
But TS BOBCAT that Boris and a first trade won’t work. Toronto wants to build around Ed Davis(PF). They have no need for Diaw. Toronto needs a SF, and a C.
Boris really isnt that good
I know he could be but talent is useless if you dont use it. And I know that trade doesnt work but really thats all I could think of that would be worth him.
Andrea is a super soft jump shooting big. LOL. He would be a good player if you had another big who could cover up his defensive and rebounding short comings. I mean how can you be 7 feet tall and not at least average 9 rebounds. Melo, Durant, Lebron and Wade average more boards than him and they are 2’s and 3’s!! Blair averages more boards and plays a whole quarter less in playing time. LOL. Dude is softer than baby poo
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by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
Bargnani beside Dwight Howard would be epic.
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A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 28, 2011 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions
That would work pretty well
Dwight in the post / painted area with Bargani dragging out the opposing PF to the 3pt arc. Leave him open and he will score.
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One can dream right. That would be like how he has things in Orlando right now. Andrea is kinda like Turkoglu without the handles and passing
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Com on w this dj stuff wud be better if he had better players to play w. Wat a joke. If he wud get in the paint and create the players hes playing w wud allow him to get ten assists a game. Granted hes getn in the paint as of lste and almost getn ten assists , at least he did the lat game.
We dont need his shooting whc is off , need his dimes in the paint. If he keps getn inside ,the guys who play great d but cant create ther own shot will flourish.
Imagine if diaw played this way all yr. Hes lost us ten games . Its the defense of diaw, white, cunningham, hendo, maquire n carroll thats getn it done. Add ball n man movement and we win and dont have to rely on jax so much.forgat k brown on d, he takes up space and rebs.
DJ's play
I don’t know if you’ve seen as many games as I have. My opinion is to be a great PG in this league you need team mates who can score whether it’s in close or jumpers, long 2’s or 3’s. If I penetrate and dish to my big guys down low and they fumble it away it’s a turn over. Do the same thing for the wing players and they shoot bricks no assists. Now were behind because the other team can hit shots, our D is good enough on most nights that were not getting dunked on. On most nights Jack is a black hole when he gets the ball we wait for him to do his thing to get us points he rarely shoots 50% or more. Back to DJ he’s the second best scorer on our team that’s why he’s allowed to shoot when were struggling. Teams know that he’s our other option he gets doubled on pick rolls, who ever sets the pick is no threat that minimizes his skills. That’s were Boris comes in earlier in the season DJ would pass to an open Boris and would scream at him to shoot it Boris would act like he never heard a thing, and do what he wants. Eventually DJ stopped yelling at him , remember DJ played the point for Texas one of his team mates was Kevin Durant and other scorers. His play on that team is what landed him in the NBA. If you play with scrubs and you’re running the point you will never maximize your talent.
ezrock
Can we just trade DJ Augustin for Russell Westbrook?
I know its wishful thinking but hell, that would be a win-win situation.
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by mikael matthews on Mar 27, 2011 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Win for us
and a win for ……. US.
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+1
"If talk is cheap, then my silence is diamonds." - Lupe Fiasco
by mikael matthews on Mar 28, 2011 5:46 AM EDT up reply actions
+2
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 28, 2011 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions
You truly love him haha jk
I like Boris he is a nice guy and can play every few games, but I hope you look at all his games this year sure he could come out and give you a lot of points, rebounds, and assists but he wont do it and I know you have noticed he wont. I dont know if you think he will eventually get better and start playing hard. The argument that he doesnt fit in our system your probably right but I dont see where that stops him from scoring plus why not trade him for someone that can play in our system?
I hate to be the pessimist...
But here’s the part where the Bobcats should beat the next three teams but will probably go 1-2. I truly hope they prove me wrong.
Milwaukee & Cleveland? Yes, definitely.
But Orlando?
Cats' Magic number: 9
Games remaining: 10
Jim Mora: "Playoffs?! Don't talk about...playoffs? You kiddin' me?"
Charlotte could easily win 4 of their next 5
at home vs. Bucks= WIN
at home vs. Cavs=WIN
away vs. Magic=LOSS
at home vs. Wizards=WIN
away vs. Cavs=WIN
Charlotte could also win their last 3 games against Detroit, New Jersey and Atlanta. Atlanta is slumping, and they might even rest their starters for the playoffs. That could give Charlotte 37 wins. More than enough to secure the final playoff spot.
so many ups and downs
I don’t know what to expect from our team any given night. I think we can win 6 out of the last ten, but it depends on who shows up to play. I also don’t think Boris cost us 10 games we don’t count on him to be that kind of a player, just keep them guessing and not pass up most scoring opportunities.
ezrock
On a side note,
Crash is going off tonight vs. the Thunder!
January 22, 2004 - February 24, 2011
by KaiserBromley on Mar 27, 2011 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Beat ya to it MikeTrain
;)
January 22, 2004 - February 24, 2011
by KaiserBromley on Mar 27, 2011 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
not the point total ;)
GSO
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-Mel Kiper, Jr.
40pts Gerald Wallace...
i think the trade was better for him….
i wish we still had him but it was time. and he’d never get his just due in CLT. dang tears
Good game for the Cats
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by gunnin' gervin on Mar 28, 2011 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
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