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Jordan Let's It Be Known This Is HIS Franchise

Evening all. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day. Haven't been around the site too much lately because I guess I'm still a little devastated from the Gerald Wallace trade (as is he). There was also a slight shift in my schedule so I've only been able to catch bits and pieces of the team sans Crash, and the box scores haven't been too pretty. However,  at this point, I can't really say that it bothers me much. Since it's been a while, I plan on using this post to talk about quite a few things and hope that I can keep your attention for a few minutes. Among the topics of discussion will be my thoughts on the Wallace and Nazr Mohammed trades, Gerald Henderson 's new role in the starting line-up, Jordan's strategy from the outside looking in on building a championship contending team, and of course, the playoff chase.

Star-divide

I'd like to start this thread by examining the two trades that the Charlotte Bobcats made on deadline day and give my exact thoughts on them..........

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Gerald Wallace to Portland for Joel Pryzbilla, Dante Cunningham, 2 1st Round Picks, Sean Marks

Yes, I admit it, I actually approve of this trade. Although I was one of the biggest supporters of the "Keep Gerald Wallace" movement, you have to know when to strike a deal, and apparently, that "when" was 7 minutes before the deadline. With this trade the team accomplishes every goal a rebuilding team could wish for. We rid ourselves of Gerald's salary (though it wasn't that outrageous compared to his production), acquire 2 first round draft picks, a serviceable big man on an expiring contract to help us remain somewhat competitive through the rest of the year, and a young prospect who has the potential to blossom into something a lot better (much how Wallace was when we picked him up from Sacramento in the expansion draft). A few people had felt that Wallace's value had decreased enough for it to be just a straight up Pryzbilla and Cunningham for Wallace trade and approved. However, I was always fairly certain that Crash' value didn't depreciate nearly as much as some of the offers that were made had us believing. Apparently, M.J. was certain of it too, ignoring all of the low ball offers made by other teams and basically giving us a package similar to what Deron Williams and Carmelo Anthony netted their former teams, just on a smaller scale. Meanwhile, the Queen City has to say goodbye to a man that had gone from bench warmer to All-Star to becoming the face of our franchise. However, that fact becomes much easier to digest when you consider that Wallace, not yet at least, hasn't started for the Blazers and may never crack their starting lineup at SF (considering the Blazers refused to part with Batum for Melo himself). There may be a small situation in Portland brewing as Crash has already let it be known to Nate McMillan he isn't there to be a 6th man, but let's hope Gerald remains as classy as he did throughout his 7 years in Charlotte because LORD knows the classiness of the Blazers fans that have visited the site in the past few weeks have me wishing nothing but the best for their franchise.

Nazr Mohammed to Oklahoma City for D.J. White, Morris Peterson

This move here demonstrates that Jordan has a plan set in motion and I like that. He knew that we would be acquiring another center from the Portland trade who could come in and duplicate a lot of the things that Nazr was doing. So, instead of having an overload on centers on the team, he makes a deal to give a contending team a veteran for a playoff push, while not taking on more salary but getting a young prospect out of the trade to fulfill a team need. White, in his limited time in Charlotte thus far, has been fairly impressive and looks as though he can hold down a backup PF spot for the franchise at a low salary. Peterson was basically just a throw in to make the salaries match on the last year of his deal, so no harm was done there. Jordan is making moves that actually make sense and adhere to one specific goal. Let's see how long he sticks with it.

 

 

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Gerald Henderson

The addition by subtraction move of the day undoubtedly goes to the playing time the Portland trade creates for Gerald Henderson. Although I think at this stage in his career he is better suited for the sixth man role we had him in, the rest of the season will give us a chance to see how good he truly is and if he can be a cornerstone player for the franchise. I actually think Hendo has star talent and could become a player in the mold of a poor man's Kobe. I mean, he kinda already is. Think about it. He's super athletic, a lock down defender, has an average but adequate outside shot, a deadly mid-range jumper, and plays the game with a confidence level that a lot of players are afraid to reach. Add in the fact that they both chose Duke as their college (but Kobe didn't go) and they were both selected by Charlotte in the lottery and the comparison's continue to run deeper. But I'll ease up on that for now. All I am saying though is don't be surprised if Hendo turns into a star. Athletic wings who can average 20 points per game on border line playoff teams and play lock down defense turn into household names all the time. Give me a good reason why Hendo can't be one. He's going to have to do better than he's done in his starts thus far, but I think he's going to surprise a lot of people.

 

The Push For The Playoffs

It almost feels like a burden was lifted off of our shoulders by trading Crash. Now, the pressure of having to make the playoffs to justify our roster is no longer there. This "rebuilding" that everyone has been wanting for so long is here, and for those that were at the front of the line wanting Crash gone, I hope you're here to see the downfall of the team and the impact that Crash really had, which could never be measured in pure statistics. Luckily for those wanting to get back in the playoffs though, the Indiana Pacers are starting to fall off (as I predicted) and keep giving us hope of sneaking in. At this point though, honestly, I don't care. We're in a win win situation. The worse that we do, the higher our lottery pick will be. We do good, and we still have shot at the playoffs. How many of you are still hoping for the playoffs though? If we do get in, we'll undoubtedly be a number 8 seed going up against a number 1, only to probably lose all four first round games and move us towards the bottom of the lottery. The question here really is "Will the experience that comes with playing in the playoffs have a better effect on our player/franchise mentality long term compared to the question is it better to just move up in the draft?" It's risky either way. With no franchise type players in the draft (not that we can see yet anyway), it may be best to just aim for the playoffs and hope D.J., Tyrus, and Hendo can use their experience to grow as the Bulls did last year. Plus, let's not forget Tyrus Thomas will be returning along with Stephen Jackson very soon. I know it seems like a lost cause, but it's not. Not yet at least.

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These Are Michael Jordan's Bobcats

Over the past 2 seasons, Bobcats fans have watched as every bit of their short history has been traded or changed in some way. No longer are we the "Play the Right Way" Cats. No longer do we have our first ever draft pick, Emeka Okafor. No longer is the UNC product Raymond Felton the head of our team. No longer is Gerald Wallace the face of our franchise. These are Jordan's Cats, and he is going to do what he wants with them to build what he thinks is a championship contender, regardless of the emotions of the fans. I applaud Jordan's strategy, but am a little worried that his desire for a constant roster turnover will never lead to a stabilizing product. M.J. has a history of being a gambler, and some of those traits are carrying over into the War Room of the NBA. He's not interested in anything but getting maximum value out of each piece that we have, and I think that's primarily the reason Crash was the one that had to go. Moving forward, I think Henderson, Tyrus and D.J. will be given every chance to succeed, with Cunningham, Livingston, D.J. White,  and Kwame Brown being capable backups that teams need to keep around on those short, cheap contracts. As for everyone else, I really think their time in Charlotte will be coming to an end very soon, including Stephen Jackson 's. Judging by the moves we've made in the past, I can pretty much guarantee Boris will be gone by the deadline next year if not much sooner, and Jax could be dealt at the same time.  It'll take years to see if Jordan has the right plan, so in the meantime, a few things we should be paying attention to.

 

NBA Standings

Charlotte (26-38) Will 32 wins be enough to get in the playoffs? Maybe. But that would be just sad.

Indiana (27-37) With a big loss to the Wolves last night, the Pacers don't seem to be anxious to take the final spot in the east.

Milwaukee (25-38) The Bucks are creeping back into the playoff picture.

New Orleans (38-29), let's hope Nawlins', who are currently 7th in the West, to fade while Houston or Phoenix picks it up. If we and the Hornets both miss the playoffs, that's two lottery picks.

 

NBA Draft.net is currently projecting us to take Jimmer Fredette with the #10 overall pick.

 

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Tanking

is never a good thing I’ll never be in favor of that.

Stay true to yourself, unless you're living a lie

by 78sackdance on Mar 10, 2011 12:40 PM EST reply actions  

Amen to that

Tanking just kills the spirits of the team and usually leads to more losing later. That said, I’d like to see White and Cunningham log consistent minutes, but that’s not the same thing as tanking.

And even if the Bobcats did tank the rest of the season, there are only a few teams behind Charlotte in the standings that would have a realistic chance of catching them – Milwaukee, the Clippers, Detroit, and possibly New Jersey. So the best (worst?) case scenario is the 6th or 7th worst record in the league. There’s really no way for Charlotte to get a high lottery pick unless they get very lucky with the ping pong balls.

by ClipCat on Mar 10, 2011 1:27 PM EST up reply actions  

sad and so true

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 13, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Things are turning around

by CaptainPanther on Mar 14, 2011 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Personally, I agree 100%.

I can understand a team coming up with every excuse in the world to play their scrubs if draft positioning and a Lebron type player was on the line, but that’s not the case here at all. Paying fans deserve a true effort at winning every night.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 16, 2011 6:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A few things.

First of all, great read.

32 wins will not be enough for a playoff birth unless the three teams you mentioned all go on an epic slump to close the season. Our magic number is currently 12, so I think whomever ends up with the eighth spot will have pretty close to a .500 record.

I absolutely detest the concept of tanking. A team can rebuild and reload for the future without intentionally sitting their best players just to lower their chances of winning games, which is exactly what we’re doing.

Cats' Magic number: 12
Games remaining: 18

Jack Bauer: "WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!"

by Newsinz on Mar 10, 2011 3:28 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks bud. I always appreciate it.

At this point, it looks like a minimum of 34 wins will get someone in. Maybe closer to 36. Did you look at ESPN’s “debate” today? They are completely leaving us out the picture and feel as though it comes down to the Bucks/Pacers. But they did say Captain Jack was the best of all the 8 seed players (including Danny Granger), so I guess that’s a sufficient compliment.

And I totally agree. The worst case I ever seen of the intentionally tanking came one year in Minnesota. The Wolves coaching staff let Mark Madsen take multiple 3 pointers that game, ensuring their own doom. If I had paid to watch that, I’d been pissed off terribly.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I think we should use this time to see if we can truly build around Hendo, Augustin, and Tyrus. And tanking will give you no clear answer.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

MJ = JERRY

      He’s been getting coached by Richardson. Cut veterans and go after draft picks that you don’t have to pay much for.

by chris in union county on Mar 10, 2011 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Hopefully the Bobcats have as much success

as the Panthers have had. Sometimes I still think back, how much would Carolina sports be different had we won that Super Bowl.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nice work CBob

I agree with just about everything you said. And I think Jack is legitimately hurt and as long as he and Tyrus return this week, we’ll have a legitimate shot at the playoffs. I think something around 35 wins could get it done.

My heart pumps no Kool-Aid

by Bring Back Primoz on Mar 10, 2011 9:49 PM EST reply actions  

Thanks dawg.

You said you agree with just about everything. Lol. I’m curious on what you disagree with.

And yeah, it looks like the winner of the #8 sweepstakes will finish around 35 or so wins. Damn Pyscho T been going crazy lately though. Funny how I can go from loving a player so much to wishing on his downfall. Just temporarily though.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good article

rec’d & +1

I wouldn’t agree to tanking unless it was the last game or two of the season and nothing was on the line.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Mar 11, 2011 1:55 PM EST reply actions  

And not a home game

I don’t believe in tanking home games in any situation.

by drapht00 on Mar 11, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw the Bobcats win the last game of the 2004-2005 season at home against a good team

We ended up tying with New Orleans in the overall standings. A coin flip was made to determine draft order. Neither Charlotte or New Orleans won the with the lottery balls. So New Orleans got the 4th pick and we got the 5th.

Do you know who was picked with the 4th and 5th pick in the 2005 draft?

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Mar 11, 2011 11:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep, it cost us Chris Paul

For a win over Detroit, who sat everybody for the last game.

My heart pumps no Kool-Aid

by Bring Back Primoz on Mar 12, 2011 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

I still think we could've landed CP3 (or even Deron Williams)

had we decided to bundle our two lottery picks together and trade up. How could anyone have known that Sean May’s work ethic would’ve turned into to horse manure once he hit the pros?

Cats' Magic number: 11
Games remaining: 17

Jack Bauer: "WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME!"

by Newsinz on Mar 12, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Lol.

I never thought he’d be a star or anything, but I thought he’d at least be a decent role player and able to keep himself in the league.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’ll give you that. I didn’t anticipate he’d completely eat his way out of the league. But a role player is all I thought he’d become. He seemed like a big softy at Carolina, and then he got paid and became a big, round softy.

by ClipCat on Mar 18, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah. His softness was the attribute that let me know his game

wouldn’t translate that well in the NBA. But how about Tyler Hansborough? He’s been tearing it up lately. I always felt like his hustle and hard work could pay off, but he is far surpassing my expectations.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

There was a rumor at the time that we had a deal on the table to trade those picks.

Those were the old Cats’ who cared more about selling tickets than building a championship team though. Hopefully, we’ll never see that again. Although I wouldn’t mind plugging our very own Harrison Barnes into our roster.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes, but why trade pick #5 & #13 for pick #4

Doesn’t seem like good value.

Lose the last game of the season against Detroit and we get pick #4 and #13.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate that homey.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 16, 2011 6:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I appreciate it. Means a lot to me.

And I’m with you on the tanking thing as well. If we end up in the same situation we did with New Orleans and Chris Paul a few years ago, it may just be best to let Najera and Carrol play 48 minutes.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

That puts us in too much jeopardy of winning.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 20, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Darn Straight...

But they will have me on the court at halftime Saturday night…so we will see what happens

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Mar 21, 2011 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not as Hard as JORDAN IS MAKING IT...C+ List Players = PlayOffs

1. Get a Center/Pg for Diaw (he is sought after by a few teams) (Dallas, Toronto, Orlando, Golden State)
2. OJ MAYO…simple. Memphis was goin to trade him away for basically nothing. Hendo is good but not quite starter material…
3. Maurice Evans or Terrence Williams (can back up Jackson for the remainder of his contract then start…both can play sg/sf…both are rotting on the benches…both are fairly cheap)…Azibuke, Roger Mason, Shawne Williams are also available
4. We got plenty of pieces (unproductive) Diaw, Livingston or Augustine (i think thats decent at pg…nobody else thinks so). Matt Carroll, Diop, McGuire, 2 1st rd picks for a WEAK DRAFT…
5. Stop Tryn to Get a MEGA STAR (Chris Paul) and give these players a chance
6. All these are possible and cost efficient. AND PRODUCTIVE.
7. Denver, Memphis, PHX, Portland, ATL (The Anti SuperTeams) are doin well bc of the group of guys meshing together.

by focuslja on Mar 13, 2011 11:46 AM EDT reply actions  

Trade Street Post didn't get this post...

Perhaps they don’t know about us…

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Mar 13, 2011 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

always been a die hard cats fan but recently the “state of the roster” (ala bobcatsbaseline.com) is a circus and the solutions seem almost elementary…
from Brevin Knight,,,to Jason Hart/Kapono…Primo/Kwame/Okafor…Flip to Jason Rich…

by focuslja on Mar 13, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry but i didn't understand anything you said...

but Memphis has a star is Z. Randolph
Atlanta has Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, and Al Horford
Portland has Aldridge,Roy(ehh) and Wallace
the Suns aren’t even a playoff team
Denver is soooooo deep that they don’t need a star
If you want a championship, you NEED a star ala Lakers/Celtics(rondo,Pierce,Garnett etc)

by mangoes52 on Mar 13, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randolph is not a mega star….
the suns hav a better record than the bobcats…they only have one star…steve nash
(steven jackson is better than everyone else on that team)
denver IS deep with no superstar players (thas the point i am tryin to make)
aldrich is in the running for the MOST IMPROVED PLAYER meaning he found his niche on the team…
wallace doesnt make them a super team (in that case we had superteams b4..NOT)
ATL players have been together for several years…
Lakers, Celtics, Heat, Dallas, even the Spurs have 3 allstars…

by focuslja on Mar 13, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

u talkin 3 hall of famers and 2 hall of famers…
detroit championship team didnt hav a mega star…jus good chemistry
OJ MAYO is a great player with all-star capabilities…so is Jack who we have for the next 2yrs…(and i Believe in T-Will)
the whole point is there are players out here that jus need the opportunity to prove to be stars…
superstars are made by winning…Collison was good in NO system(so wut has Paul proven)…Devin Harris is good in UTAH system, Wilson Chandler/JR Smith/Afflalo are good in DEN system, Lewis/Turkolu was good in ORL system

by focuslja on Mar 13, 2011 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree in a sense some players just need a chance in the right situation to become great players. But there isn’t many teams in NBA history that have won a championship without having at least 2 all star caliber players. Even the Pistons had all star players on there team. The Pistons were better together than individually but you can’t deny Billups, Hamilton, Prince, Rasheed Wallace and even Ben Wallace were all better than average players. Ben Wallace was the weakest person in that starting five and he was 3 time defensive player of the year! LOL

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 13, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

this is true…
i jus think that the Organization is takin a terrible approach at rebuilding the team,,,
what “mega star” wants to play for Charlotte…
y waste money without pieces to support tha star (which we wont hav in a few years)
to lure a star u have to PROVE that their talents are capable of making that team champions…(or end up like Deron Williams lol)
wut better way to do that than have good pieces (Mayo, Thomas, Jackson) and CAP SPACE

by focuslja on Mar 13, 2011 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

True

but in all honesty, the Bobcats isn’t getting a star player via free agency unless the team is already half way decent. the best way for this team to get a superstar or star is via a trade or drafting one. Jordan should hire Kevin Prichard because he has a great eye for talent.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 13, 2011 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

the Grizz were goin to trade Mayo for McRoberts and a Draft pick at the deadline…
Cunningham/Livingston/ are better Players than McRoberts…
and we hav 2 first rd draft picks…

by focuslja on Mar 13, 2011 6:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mayo isn’t a superstar and if he became one it would still make my point more valid because they had to trade for him. The team needs to build through the draft and in order to do that correctly they need a better GM

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 18, 2011 1:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

i actually think i replied to the wrong post here…bc i firmly believe that the Bobcats WILL NEVER GET A (so called) SUPERSTAR. Dwight, Paul, Derron, Rose, J.Johnson ect WILL NEVER COME TO THE BOBCATS. but wut we can do is assemble a team like the Denver Nuggets (with B/C+ players/good chemistry/deep)…its POSSIBLE TO DO THAT IN FA

by focuslja on Mar 18, 2011 8:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

They can't help but to be here if we drafted them.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

But you're right, I don't think we have a shot in free agency when it comes to guys like that.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

true but there are players ready to start that will be in FA and on the trading block…the scouts/gms jus need to open their eyes…it may not b as easy as I think but I definately know it isnt that hard to RECOGNIZE talent

by focuslja on Mar 18, 2011 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Most definately.

I think almost every small market team not in contention right now should adopt the strategy the Nuggets have used by loading up on multiple assets rather than just a few top players like New York. The only thing that can really overcome these super squads on the court is depth and teamwork. I think we should load up as they have, while keeping a healthy balance of wise veterans and young talents. I think going young completely hinders development a bit (Wolves, Kings) since those teams don’t have any direct leadership.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

this is y I oppose trying to get rid of Stephen Jackson and Boris Diaw..but I do think that overall the FA pool and Trading block players will prove alot more valuable than this year’s draft…

by focuslja on Mar 18, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Im cool with everything,

But I would start Henderson over Mayo and let O.J. fill in that Jamal Crawford/Ben Gordon 6th man role.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 16, 2011 6:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that def makes sense…i actually never looked at it as a jamal crawford role…

by focuslja on Mar 16, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

I think having Mayo feast on second units instead of chasing people like Kobe, Wade, or Ray Allen around all game would be more beneficial. But I see where you’re coming from. I don’t think Henderson, at this point, is a clear cut better overall player than Mayo. Definitely better on D, but we’ll need to see Mayo get more consistent playing time before coming to a true conclusion on him.

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mayo is not seeing minutes only bc he is in the “dog house”… skillwise he is a better all around player than Hendo. but let’s not jus limit our choices to Mayo (although he & T-Will are prob most affordable)..there are plenty of SGs that i think are ready to start and are DANGEROUS Gary Neal hint hint (I think we can afford both)

by focuslja on Mar 18, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

I thought I was the only one who noticed Gary Neal. That kid is a baller.

I’m just glad there is someone else on the site now who is as big as a Terrence Williams fan as I am though. I think that kid just needs to get in the right situation and he’ll be a dominant force in the league. Don’t know what it is about him that makes me think that way, but I haven’t felt that way about someone who hasn’t proven much in the league in a LONG time. I always thought Gerald Green would be better than he was, but not like I feel about Williams. Here’s a short list of players that I’m a big fan of that are young and cheap. I made an article about them last year about how I was expecting each to be a candidate for MIP (Most Improved Player). And yes, Williams was one of them. http://www.rufusonfire.com/2010/8/15/1623371/young-talents-ready-to-take-the

Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Mar 18, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

great article

the best thing about this article is that all those players are ALOT better this year and WILL be stars in the near future… and yes GARY NEAL is “icewater” (exactly what we need at the SG position)

by focuslja on Mar 18, 2011 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah Neal does have ice-water in his veins. He will keep chucking shots because that is his role and what he is good at. I like the guys game a lot also

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 19, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Neal ain’t going anywhere because he is locked up for three years on a affordable contract. Me also being a Spurs fan will tell you as good as he is he isn’t a star player and would be easier to guard if he was the number 1 or 2 scoring option on a team. He is crafty scorer and can create some shots on his own but not at an elite level

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 19, 2011 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

didnt know he had a 3yr contract

but with everything else, I disagree. He definately will prove different if given the chance in the Spotlight so to speak. With Jax & Augustine all Neal would need to do is avg a CONSISTENT 17-20pts. This I believe he can do.

by focuslja on Mar 19, 2011 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

I am not saying he can’t score 17 a game but it isn’t gonna be with a great shooting %. The guy is crafty and he did well overseas running the teams he played on but watching darn near all the Spurs games this year I’m telling you straight up, him being your number 1 or 2 scoring option might not be the best idea. NBA League pass is a wonderful thing to have and I’m not taking anything away from a solid scorer and one of my favorite new guys but it is one thing to be a main option and a complimentary player

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 21, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

i understand what u are sayin but...

i still disagree. Neal avgs over 9pts on 45% shooting and 40% from 3. This is in 20min. This is coming off the bench and having to get in rhythm with the rest of the game. Plus he’s played everygame this season. Not only that but he is the 7th/8th man. So I think he’s definately ready

by focuslja on Mar 22, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

He is doing all that like you said as the 7th or 8th man. Which means he will always be at the very highest the 3rd option for the defense to worry about scoring. Most of his shots are open 3’s created by people driving and kicking. Who would you rather shoot if you are playing the Spurs?

Like I stated I love Neal’s game and as soon as we signed the guy I looked up everything about him and I knew from the various write ups that he could score and shoot well but you have to admit that he is doing so well because he is never the focal point for the defense to stop. If he comes to the Bobcats and gets the role you want him to play the opposing teams will gear up to stop him which will make it way harder for him to shoot as well as he does.

Like I stated above he could score 17 a game easily if he is given the chance to do so but i don’t think he would be as efficient as he is now.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 24, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

When I asked who would you rather shoot when playing the Spurs? I asked that because most teams key in on stoping Manu and Tony and would you rather let those two and Duncan shoot or Neal? Most teams key in on Manu, Tony and Tim which makes Bonner, Neal, Jefferson, Hill, McDyess, Novak and anybody else who can shoot life a whole lot easier. 60% of all those guys shots are wide open against decent defensive teams and against shitty defensive teams they are open like 80% of the time. LOL

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 24, 2011 1:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

we agree to disagree

teams know that Neal is a knockdown shooter. Im sure teams prepare for the #1 or 2 3pt % in NBA when going over strategy. I agree that the Spurs have a million shooters. (this is bc they are smart) unlike the Bobcats that only have Augustine really. But JAX is no slouch either. Neither is Diaw. So now u put an icewater shooter alongside our shooters (tho not as efficient as SA) not to mention he can drive to the basket also…he will be a nice fit. he is only the 7th option on SA bc they have the type of roleplayers that can get hot all the way down to the 9th man on the bench. alot of them are ready (and groomed well under G.POP) for the big leagues…

by focuslja on Mar 24, 2011 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Of course teams prepare to stop the outside shooting but not everybody has the tools to do so. That is why I said people have to pick there poison. Either let Manu and Tony carve you up with easy lay ups while getting your team in serious foul trouble or see if the shooters are hitting that night. Only a few teams can stay at home on the shooters because of there great shot blocking bigs.

I do think Neal would be a great addition to the Bobcats but to think he would shoot as good or better with less weapons around him and more offensive reasonability is a little far fetched in my opinion. Neal reminds me of Ben Gordon a lot with out the handles. Neal can drive but one on one it isn’t as easy for him to beat his man like it is for Gordon. Ben scores his points and shoots decent also. But he was kind of a ball stopper in Chicago and was turnover prone also.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 24, 2011 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Perry Jones

I don’t believe in tanking the season but I think Jones after bulking him up could be like Dwight Howard. Just imagine him and Ty Thomas in the front court together out running almost every teams big guys on the break!!! This draft doesn’t really have any star players but it would be great from the Cats to get the one guy who has the best chance of becoming a star

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 13, 2011 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

John Henson

is also a good prospect after getting some weight on him. He is way more proven as a shot blocker and rebounder as opposed to Jones and he runs the court well. I really think this team if they draft correctly could be a really good young team because they have some decent young pieces already.

One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.

by gunnin' gervin on Mar 13, 2011 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

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