What Big Market Dominance?
Does a team like the Charlotte Bobcats really ever stand a chance of winning an NBA title? Why not? Charlotte isn't that bad of a place to live. I mean, sure the drive home from work on I-77 is always hell despite what time of the day it is, and there are more gangs here than women that were bedded by Wilt Chamberlain, but it's still a hell of a place to raise a family right? I'd even go as far to say that it's better to do that here than New York, Chicago, Boston, or Los Angeles.
Unfortunately for us fans, NBA players typically aren't interested in such variables when making their decisions on where to play out their basketball careers. There are hundreds of factors that typically go into a players final choice, but ultimately, it's always come down to the main three priorities: 1. Money, 2. Winning, 3. Market. There's been a shift towards a thinking that a team's market has become a bigger factor in the player's choice these days. And with 'superstars' like Chris Paul of the Hornets and Carmelo Anthony of the Nuggets supposedly looking to depart New Orleans and Denver respectively for the bright lights of Madison Square Garden, that theory holds some merit. LeBron James and Chris Bosh leaving Cleveland and Toronto for Miami also backs that theory up a little bit. However, one must remember that Dwayne Wade, Bosh, and James all spurned bigger markets with teams with more history than Miami in Chicago and New York to join the Heat, so it also goes against itself a bit.
Looking back on history, we can see that it's not always the size of the market that attracts the big time free agents or wins championships, it's really all about the competence of the front office. So even though the new CBA is going to be suited towards giving smaller market teams like our Bobcats a better chance to compete for a championship, I have to wonder how much of an effect it can really have in the end.
Over the past 30 or so years, the same old teams in and out have won the championship in the NBA. Since 1980, only 8 different franchises have won the title; the L.A. Lakers (10) Boston Celtics (4), Chicago Bulls (6), Detroit Pistons (3), Philadelphia 76'ers (1), Houston Rockets (2), and San Antonio Spurs (3), Miami Heat (1). Of those 8 franchises, how many of them do you really consider big markets? When people define market size, I've come to realize that they don't always actually mean market size. For example, a team like the Toronto Raptors has one of the larger markets in the NBA in all areas (television, fan attendance, merchandising), yet, they will probably never be one of the ultimate free agent destinations for a superstar since they are not in the U.S. So let's throw out the thinking that big markets actually dominate the league. Or at least, let's dismiss the claim that superstars are only interested in big markets (not every big market is interesting) and small market teams can't win titles (the Spurs, winners of multiple NBA titles are actually one of the smaller market teams).
Free agency and player mindsets have changed A LOT over the last 30 years, so to prove the point I am about to try to make, I'll just use the last few years as an example. When everyone talks about the "great big market" teams, it's always the same ones right? The LA Lakers, Boston Celtics, Chicago Bulls, and New York Knicks. Well, history actually shows that those teams actually had to overcome mediocrity as well, despite their dominance.
"Kobe got that I don't know what the hell they got me doin playin with your sorry ass face"
Lakers
Think about it, their superstar, Kobe Bryant, was once a CHARLOTTE HORNET!!!! I mean, just let that resonate through your head for a moment. He was the 13th pick in the draft of 1996, and now he's considered the closest thing to Michael Jordan with some even going as far to say he was better. That was just a smart move by the Lakers trading Vlade Divac for him. Has nothing to do with the fact that it was Los Angeles. The Pau Gasol for Kwame Brown and Marc Gasol trade that lifted the Lakers from mediocrity (more on that in a sec) back to championship glory had nothing to do with the fact that it was the Lakers either. Just a smart move, I think, for both teams. The Grizzlies were going nowhere with Pau, Kwame had a huge expiring deal, and Marc is showing everyone that he is actually a pretty good player. Everyone wants to talk about how the Lakers always dominate the league, but their core of today has been acquired through smart trading and drafting, not free agency. Lamar Odom was acquired in a trade for Shaq and Andrew Bynum was the 10th pick of his draft, by the Lakers. Sure, they could very well win 3 titles in a row for the second time in the last decade or so, but let's not forget about those 6 years in between those title runs where Phil Jackson and Shaq left, Rudy Tomjanovich took over and was in the hospital every other week, and the Lakers, even with Kobe missed the playoffs with a 34-48 record. Again, let that sink in. The almighty Lakers with a Toronto Raptors type of record. It can happen.
"Pierce was so excited to be finally escaping mediocrity, he went to publicly display his Celtic jersey as if he had just been traded to the team as well"
Celtics
Again, the Celtics return to dominance has nothing to do with the fact that they are the Celtics. Everyone knows how Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen were acquired (Garnett traded from Wolves for Al Jefferson, Theo Ratliff, Gerald Green, Sebastian Telfair, Ryan Gomes, first rounders and Allen from Sonics for Wally Szczerbiak, Delonte West, and what turned out to be Jeff Green of the Thunder). People were going nuts back then for the "superstar" trio that was put together, but the Celtics surrendered a lot for Garnett and Allen. They weren't terrible trades from either side. Sure, the Wolves have been in a collapse since, but again, that's due to poor GM'ing. Add in the fact that 9 teams passed on the other superstar Paul Pierce in the draft, 20 teams passed on Rajon Rondo in the draft, and 26 teams passed on Kendrick Perkins in the draft (who was acquired in a trade with Marcus Banks for Dahntay Jones and Troy Bell) and we see the Celtics have built their dynasty with no Celtic mystique involved, just smart moves. I mean sure, some players are there now to ride the coattails of the core and win a championship, but that team was built by Danny Ainge, who should be considered a master mind for his efforts. Like I say, it's easy to think about how dominant the Celtics are, but what about in 05-06 when they went on an 18 game losing streak? The Celtics have gone through hell as well.
"Jay Williams actually had a good future ahead for him before he killed his limo driver." Lol, you don't have to tell me, I know.
Bulls
Does anyone really remember how terrible the Bulls were after Mike, Scottie, and the rest of the gang left Chicago? Let me just toss some words out there and tell me what comes to mind. Eddy Curry, Tyson Chandler, Baby Bulls, Jay Williams, Ron Mercer, Eddie Robinson, Brad Miller, Tim Floyd, Jalen Rose, Jamal Crawford, Marcus Fizer, Ron Artest, 13-37, 17-65, 15-67 and so on and so on. Yes, even these dominant Chicago Bulls (well, not really to a Bobcats fan) had to go through hell and high water to get back to where they are. The only fluky thing I can say about Chicago is that the draft pick of Derrick Rose ended up to them under strange circumstances, but other than that, good drafting rescued them. Of the big market teams, the Bulls probably get spurned the worst. Bosh, Bron, Wade, and Joe Johnson did it to them this year, just like Tracy McGrady, Tim Duncan, Eddie Jones, Grant Hill, and Tim Thomas (yes, Tim Thomas) did them back in 2000. But again, they have returned to the limelight with Rose as a number 1 pick in the draft, a number 9 pick in Joakim Noah, and a number 7 pick in Luol Deng. Of their core, only Carlos Boozer was acquired through free agency and that was because the Bulls were a team on the rise, not because they were in Chicago. Boozer was considering even taking an offer from Detroit before the screwed up their cap space, so his head obviously isn't in markets.
"Ending up on here twice is enough proof that Curry and mediocrity go hand in hand."
Knicks
I'm not even going to waste too much time going over the Knicks struggles, because despite all of their improvements, they are still hovering around .500. But Isiah Thomas destroyed the franchise for several years with players like Stephon Marbury, Eddy Curry, Jamal Crawford, and Quentin Richardson. The fact that Carmelo (who may end up being a Laker) and Chris Paul have talked about going to New York doesn't make them a threat to be a championship contender anytime soon as neither player ultimately may even end up there. Before we get so scared of how dominant the Knicks could ultimately be, let's keep in mind that this team hasn't even finished the season .500 since the 2000-01 season.
So what am I saying? I don't know. Most of the time I just start a post with a thought and try to enforce it as best as I can, so I guess my thought here is that the lack of parity in the NBA really just comes down to the lack of great general managers in the league as opposed to the lack great players. Who cares if CP3 or Melo talks about only wanting to play in big markets like New York? For every Melo, there is a Kevin Durant. For every Chris Paul, there is a Tim Duncan. The Charlotte Bobcats can win a championship. Our market size won't hold us back. The New Jersey Nets can win a championship. The Sacramento Kings can as well. Don't laugh. During those years where the Bulls, Lakers, and Celtics were down on their luck, Jason Kidd was leading the Nets to the NBA Finals and Jason Williams, Chris Webber, Peja Stojakovic, and Vlade Divac had the Kings as one of the best teams in the league and one of the most exciting teams in recent history. Once the Bobcats front office settles on a vision for the long term (and no, that doesn't mean just shedding costs and drafting late round picks), then we can be in that chase for a championship. Until then, believe in the team that we have now. I still believe that if this team catches enough fire, they have a true shot at advancing this year.
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Good post. Lots to chew on, here. I posted on some of these topics a while ago, and came up with a slightly different angle.
First, we’re one of the non-destination teams in the league. I like Charlotte a lot. But it’s not Los Angeles (Lakers only). It’s not New York. Not Chicago. Not Miami. That makes four teams that can sell themselves on location alone. The next tier down is a bunch of teams that have location in their favor, but need extra convincing to sell free agents on the virtues of the location. Atlanta. New Jersey. Los Angeles Clippers. Golden State. Houston. If you’re a rich young man told you can choose to live in any of the NBA cities, there are nine teams whose locales stand out above the rest, just by virtue of being happenin’ places. Obviously, depending on the person, he might discount Golden State and add Boston. Whatever. I’m not being precise.
Like I said, I enjoy living in Charlotte. I also like Cleveland a lot. But as a dude in his mid-twenties, if someone offered me a job in Manhattan that paid me enough to live a mostly-carefree lifestyle, and I could bring people I cared about with me? Hell to the yeah, I’d take it.
by David A. Arnott on Feb 9, 2011 11:42 AM EST reply actions
Lol. I don't think Cleveland is that bad.
I’ve only been there twice in my lifetime and both stays were very short, but it didn’t seem that bad.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
I loved Boston. LOVED that town.
Then I came to the Carolinas. There are still friends I miss up there. There are still restaurants and clubs I miss too.
But you couldn’t drag me back to the concrete jungle of big city living in chains. In Boston there was always something to do and always a thousand things happening any night of the week. There were also $12 Big Macs, 4 room apartments than cost over a grand a month – UNHEATED, and the most rude and arrogant people I’ve ever had to deal with. Racism was rampant, but whispered. You never knew who to trust.
In North Carolina, racism is alive and well. But 20 seconds after meeting a bigot you know what the score is because they will flat out tell you. It’s out in the open where you can choose to avoid it, fight against it, or join it if you are equally small-minded.
People are infinitely nicer here. The weather is infinitely easier to deal with. The cost of living doesn’t require a married couple to hold down 2 full time jobs each just to pay the monthlies. This morning, I snapped the leashes on the dog and ferret, grabbed my cane, and 30 seconds later I was walking through the forest and listening to nature. If I tried that in Beantown, it would either involved someone kicking over my wheelchair or pulling me to the ground with my cane so they could rob me, or a two hour drive to find the nearest 1/2 acre of scrub pines. This spring my bride and I will plant 2 acres of food. Uncleared land in Eastern New England runs over 100K an acre.
I understand the allure of the Metros. The appeal of more rural communities is much more subtle, but no less compelling. I will die here unless God sends me elsewhere. It was where my ancestors died for centuries before the Trail to Oklahoma. My great-grandmother died in the mountains of Eastern Tennessee on that Trail and was left for the wolves and coyotes. It may be corny as crap, but as much as I enjoyed the city life, in NC I found my history, my family, and my home.
“Don’t it always seem to go, that you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone?
“They paved Paradise and put up a parking lot.”
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
by Ourdaywillcome on Feb 9, 2011 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
I think it's funny.
When I’m up Nawth I’m referred to as a hillbilly and a hick.
But when I’m home, people meeting me for the first time call me Yankee or city boy.
It’s all good. I don’t consider myself to be any of those things. I’m just a man descended from the group that was in North Carolina for centuries before some guy named Columbus stumbled on the continent while looking for something else. Maybe it really is in my genes. All I know is that for whatever reason, the good Lord wanted me to be here, so here is where I came. I was reluctant, scared, and hadn’t been in a rural setting since my parents moved us from Oklahoma to Salem, Ma. when I was 4. But for reasons far too intricate to talk about here, I became convinced that this was where God wanted us. Within 90 days of my arrival in Mount by-God Airy, North bless-yer-heart Carolina, I knew I was here to stay. One of the things I missed most about Beantown was pro sports. Now all but one of the major sports leagues are represented in the Carolinas less than 2 1/2 hours from my front door. If I could score some fresh deep water seafood once in a while I’d be convinced that I’d found Paradise on earth.
Oh, and just to keep things on topic:
Go BOBCATS! Remember the almost official team motto:
If we can beat the refs, we can beat anyone!
(it beats “play as one” by a country mile, as far as I’m concerned!)
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
by Ourdaywillcome on Feb 10, 2011 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I wasn't really saying that you were country or anything
I was just saying that what you said reminded me a lot of the thoughts of Ronnie Van Zant
No harm no foul. I honestly didn't think you meant anything by it.
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
by Ourdaywillcome on Feb 10, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions
Thank you sir.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Excellent read CB, as always.
I also think a lot of it has to do with wallets. Anyone who has heard of the Bobcats in the past year knows two things:
1. They are owned by Michael Jordan.
2. Jordan doesn’t have tens of millions of dollars lying around anymore and has to run things on a bit of a shoestring budget because the team is losing money every season.
Yes, it sucks. But I think a major reason why teams like the Lakers and Caltics continue to dominate is because they have the backing and financial clout to say, “Luxury cap – we don’t care about no stinking luxury cap!”
The Yankees dominate baseball because they have the best roster money can buy. The Red Sox have been battling them to a draw in recent years because they finally said screw the budget and followed suit, buying up anything the Yankees couldn’t get their hands on.
If Jordan could afford to blow $90 million a season on player salaries, players would suddenly stop thinking of Charlotte at a small-town market and start thinking of it as the Queen City and future NBA powerhouse.
Miami was no great shakes for years. They performed a little better than the other expansion clubs that rolled in to the league around that time, but it wasn’t considered to be one of the NBA “Hot Spots” by the players. Then, during the summer, Pat Riley convinced management to go all in. Now the whole league buzzes and every paper in America spreads the ink whenever anything happens there.
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
You have to admit though...
He’s putting together a great portfolio of investors…
Duke Energy and Blue Cross/Blue Shield to name a couple
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Feb 9, 2011 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks OD.
And I agree. That’s one of the reasons the Celtics and Lakers stay so dominant. They always have some dollars to either chase a great free agent or dip into the luxury to keep their core together. It’s sad to think that our management was doing so bad over the years that we needed Dampier’s unguaranteed deal just to get out of being in the luxury. I feel like Mike when it comes to that. Any team in the luxury should be contending for a title.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
great read.
Fact: All you care about is points.
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.
Appreciate it Hawk.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
i think the lack of dominance
overall by large market teams outside Boston and LA is the fact that those teams tend to grossly overpay for free agents based on talent level, thus handicapping themselves
it generally comes down to three factors:
1) the free agent in question played for a really bad team, making themselves look better than they really were
2) they can’t handle the exposure of a big city
3) they get the big payday and mail it in
basically what im saying
is that its a bit of irony that the way the luxury tax and such works that the large market teams aren’t able to be dominant
i think a hard cap will actually BENEFIT them because of the reasons mentioned above about location
i voted that i wasn't afraid
but if the new CBA lowers the cap, I’ll be VERY afraid because it will force big market teams to be more spendthrift
Very interesting psychological points that you bring up.
And reading thru the three points you listed, it seems that most small market team’s free agent acquisitions fit those molds perfectly. Number three to me is the most bothersome though because I think it’s the truest and it’s why people start thinking there is no real talent in the NBA outside of the stars. People like Boris Diaw could become household name’s if they had the work ethic of Kobe Bryant. Even Allen Iverson, despite his HOF career, could have been even greater had he just took things seriously. I think it’s inexcusable for any player in the NBA to be out of shape.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Good Article - A few thoughts...
What exactly is the Charlotte gang to WC bedding ratio? 5 to 2?
A lot of NBA and NFL players who have made stops in Charlotte have chosen to live here. Paul Silas was holed up in a Lake Norman mansion before being coaxed out of retirement. Charlotte has a lot of advantages over other NBA cities (weather, cost of living, schools, land).
Maybe it’s not just a big market / small market thing. Remember Charlotte was once a big market and packed 23,000+ for every Hornets game season after season. The issue may be haves vs. have-nots. The NBA sees certain teams as the face of the NBA. The “have” teams have lots of money, sign the big names, and draw interest from the media and then the casual fan. They generate more TV and other media revenue. The teams and their top players are rewarded with more attention and favorable refereeing and this leads to few more wins. Thus an upward cycle.
The have-not teams are ignored by TV & media, thus the the big names don’t want to play for them. The teams and players don’t get attention and do not get favorable refereeing and thus win less. The casual fan loses interest. Thus a downward cycle.
The current way the NBA is set up and the way the collective bargaining agreement works, doesn’t easily allow teams to move from one status to another.
its almost become
as bad as baseball
I don’t understand why the NBA and MLB can’t see what the NHL and NFL are doing right with revenue sharing, more reasonable salary caps, etc.
although at least the MLB and NFL have official accountability… the NBA has David Stern’s teet
by adamcawa on Feb 10, 2011 9:46 AM EST up reply actions 3 recs
+2
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
Thank yas.
Yes, there have been a number of notable players known to maintain homes in Charlotte after just passing through. I think Charlotte is just one of those cities where you just really have to be here to know how good it can be to just, well, live here. I was especially upset that someone the caliber of Artest would have trouble playing here, but maybe he doesn’t have any problems with the city itself.
The NBA is just like the NFL with those have, “have not” teams. Luckily, the NFL is less extreme because their are a lot more players and guys really care more about winning than market sizes there. Though teams like the Cowboys and Redskins are always in the hunt for the best free agents, they still rarely win big games. Plus, it’s good to see superstars like Brett Favre have no problem calling Minnesota home. Which would never happen in the NBA.
What do you think can be done to change how the league works? I think the hard cap is going to be the biggest help.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
The NFL hard cap works.
Each year a different teams rises from the dust to take a shot at the Super Bowl. Sure some well run teams are there more than others, but at least every team has a chance at the beginning of the season.
MLB is the polar opposite. Starting the season, there are always several teams that have no earthly chance of even dreaming about World Series.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe that will work in the NBA.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
It would at least make the NBA more fun to watch if everyone had a shot...
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Feb 13, 2011 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Indeed.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 13, 2011 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
I actually believe that is why most people do not like the NBA
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Feb 13, 2011 11:45 PM EST up reply actions
But is that because
of the hard cap or the fact they play so few games? It’s easier to get into the playoffs by luck when you play only 16 (or 18?) games as opposed to 80-something.
by Tim Rudisill on Feb 15, 2011 4:50 AM EST up reply actions
That's true as well.
The NBA, in my eyes, is probably the only sport to have a true champion. I mean, that’s not taking anything away from the Duke Blue Devils or the Green Bay Packers, but having to win series (as opposed to games), gives us a better indication of who were truly the superior teams in any given year. I think that’s another reason why there is low parity in the league.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 15, 2011 9:13 AM EST up reply actions
I agree that
Basketball is the one sport where you can definitively say one team is better than the rest.
It’s true that hockey and baseball have long series playoffs, but both of those sports can ultimately come down to the performance of one person (the goalie and pitcher respectively) while basketball is always dictated by the performance of the team as a whole
+1
Basketball: the very nature of the sport defines how champions are made. When you have only 5 people on the court from each team, 12 total players who can suit up, demand a scoring attempt at least every 24 seconds, and require winning 4 games to finish off your opponent in the playoffs, you create a very demanding game. With those conditions, and having played each other at least twice before, you can’t hide weaknesses or use luck for more than a game during the playoffs.
True, but I would like to see the NBA playoffs as 5 game series
It makes for a more competitive, every team has a chance, atmosphere.
More fun to watch.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Feb 15, 2011 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
i would like to see 5 game
in everything but the finals
but i understand the necessity for home team profit that makes it 7 games
Although I was once a huge supporter, for several years now I've been calling for Stern's head on a plate.
He has outlived his usefullness as commissioner and almost everything he’s attempted in the past several years has hurt this league and its credibility.
Even now, ignoring the “respect the game” absurdity, he’s hurting pro hoops in North America.
1. His insistence on establishing teams in Europe – most notably England. Basketball is a comparatively new passion for most of Europe, but their own leagues are thriving quite nicely without being part of the NBA “brand.”
IF an NBA Europe is ever created (Stern promised it within 5 years, but that was back in 1998, 2002, 2006, and almost once per month since then) it will be perceived as an interloper and have to take market share from the existing Euroleagues that have their own fans. The notion of NBA teams having to take a seven hour flight to play a series of “road” games is obscene and will ultimately leave the existing NBA in a state of confusion and chaos.
2. He isn’t an owner. He isn’t a player. Yet he’s used his office as a bully pulpit and fostered so much animosity between the players union and the owners that it’s highly likely that it will kill some or all of the next season. Contraction? Stern’s idea/threat. The need to cut salaries by 190 million dollars? Stern’s numbers. The big brouhaha over the league losing $375 million last season? Again, Stern’s numbers – and they have been repeatedly proven as either outright lies or “creative accounting” constantly by sportswriters and finanial experts at Fortune, Forbes, and the Wall Street Journal. He’s Nero – fiddling while the NBA burns.
Do you want to know the real reason the NBA has the worst officiating of any major sport – including World Cup Soccer and Fifa? Because in all other sports the offiicials have accountability for their actions and are taught to take pride in their jobs. The one and only referee that Stern has publicly castigated was a guy that wrote a book in which he admitted that the refs in the NBA are corrupted. Whether the dude has all his facts straight is moot. It was the fact that he dared say it publicly that got the mighty Stern Spin Factory in overdrive. David Stern has a stranglehold on the NBA like no commissioner in any other sport and he loves to swing his sword around like a Jedi lightsaber the second anyone seems to have forgotten that it’s “his show.”
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
by Ourdaywillcome on Feb 10, 2011 1:53 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Stern is terrible.
It’s about time for another edition of the Stern-O-Meter isn’t it?
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
LOL
Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...
by andrewlail76 on Feb 12, 2011 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
As much as I love basketball, the NBA is a corrupt league...
Not in a manner that suggests illegal activity. I mean the CBA, the approach to officiating, the unwritten rules and the nature of free agency have combined to make this a fixed league. More than ever before, big market teams rule and continue to rule. San Antonio is the great exception, and that is only due to brilliant drafting and excellence in the FO and coaching. Some would also say Orlando, but they’ve never won a ring, and are about to face another departure of a dynamic Center leaving for…a BIG MARKET TEAM!
Honestly, we Bobcats fans (and many others) live in a pretend world, where we think some luck in the draft and some great coaching will get us to a championship. I say that is largely a pipe dream. That scenario is so rare in the modern age of the NBA that it is almost a statistical anomally. Yes, include San Antonio, and the percentage rises. But what other smaller market team is prepared to grab the ring anytime soon? None. And as long as players can conspire to gather in NY, LA or Miami, we are going to be nothing more than bit players on the stage..pawns in the way of the kings and queens of the game…set-ups for the REAL drama between the massive cities and their rich owners who spend huge dollars to bring big ratings and the best talent, and are backed byu the NBA and their farce of officiating, which is DESIGNED, yes DESIGNED to insure that the best stars and their BIG market teams reach the championship rounds. It’s ALL ABOUT THE MONEY FOLKS! The drama is fake. Why else does the NBA show the SAME TEAMS on their telecasts every week? The BIG investors in BIG markets need to insure a BIG return on their investment!
The deeper I go into the reality of the NBA business, the dirtier I feel. I also lose a lot of innocence in being honest with the facts. Michael Jordan bought this team, and maybe he thought the league would help him with a little more “support”. So far, the Cats never get on national TV (despite being a playoff team last year) and we obviously don’t get calls. I guess Stern the Mob Boss doesn’t look as favorably on our favorite son as he did when he was playing. “What have you done for me lately MJ?” said Stern in the soft neon glow of the posh NY restaurant.
It’s a racket. Anyone who still thinks the league is pure…I’m sorry…it’s not. It’s the entertainment business..it’s fixed…and it’s here to stay until someone rids the league of these mobsters.
I actually agree with all of that.
The NBA is a terribly corrupt machine but just doesn’t want to make it known. I mean, they make it known, but it’s like no one can do anything about it. From the blatant superstar calls to seeing teams like the Bulls on tv more than the Bobcats (no matter how bad they are), it’s pretty much enough proof who the NBA wants to really see succeed. The only chance we do have is to do what the Spurs have done, because any other approach just isn’t going to work for us. I don’t know though, maybe in this new age of the NBA we’ll have a better chance. The Spurs, Mavericks, Lakers, and Celtics are all older teams whose core players will be looking to retire in the next few years or so, maybe there will be a power shift soon. Hopefully.
Q. What Do You Tell A Girl With Two Black Eyes?
A. Nothing, You've Already Told Her Twice.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 12, 2011 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Charlotte Bobcat, you raise some good points
but I can’t help but thinking this is similar to economics. If people believe that there is a recession, they will spend less money. If players believe big markets are the only place they can win a championship, then they will go to big market teams. Whether that is true or not is unimportant; all that matters is that they believe it is true and it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Do the players believe that? I’m not sure. While the media espouses the big market theory, the players get to travel to each of these cities every year. They get to see how big (or small) each city is. They see how San Antonio compares to New York every year. As such, I hope they are far less inclined to believe the media hype about the big market dominance, but you can never be sure.
I totally agree Tim.
I’m more worried about the standard this sets for the future as opposed to what it has done in the past. Now, it seems like all of those big market teams are succeeding at the same time, when in the past, they usually took turns struggling. All I can hope for it that smaller market teams continue to succeed and attract the key free agents to be the “missing pieces” rather than players just choosing the better market. People are different, and as long as that’s the case, I think there will be some sort of balance there. Not every player even enjoys being in the spotlight. But yeah, I think most of it is media driven. I’m sure agents tell a player they can make more money in certain markets, but I think every agency outside the CAA doesn’t really put that much emphasis into the market size. It’s just this new group of Maverick Carter, “Worldwide” Wes, and all of these other guys trying to take over the league. They are the only new threat that I see.
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by Charlotte Bobcat on Feb 15, 2011 9:19 AM EST up reply actions

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