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Charlotte Bobcats at Detroit Pistons preview -- Game 48

The Big Picture: This incarnation of the Detroit Pistons shouldn't be quite this bad. They're not terrible as it stands, but they're bad enough that there's this creeping sense that something's gone horribly wrong in the organization. From this outsider's vantage point, there are two main issues that are leading to dysfunction, and which the Bobcats would do well to address or avoid in their own house.

Star-divide

1 -- The veterans are oozing with entitlement. The team wants to trade Rip Hamilton because he's Stephen Jackson minus the defense, and making Josh Smith money. The team should want to trade Tayshaun Prince because, though he might actually be their best player this year, he's more valuable to them in the form of picks or young players than as an expiring contract. Yet, the vets -- and their friends -- pout and complain that they don't get the respect they deserve. We don't know how much of this was unavoidable friction that happens when a player starts losing his ability and how much was legitimate screwing-up by management, jerking around the players and not treating them like men with families. In the end, everyone looks bad, but Hamilton worst of all, because his production simply doesn't match up with his projected opinion of himself.

2 -- They signed Charlie Villanueva and Ben Gordon to huge contracts, and those guys simply aren't worth the money they were given, especially Gordon.

The Cats haven't yet signed anyone to a deal as foolish as the Gordon contract, but they've taken on Jackson and Boris Diaw via trade, and both of those contracts are in the same class as Villanueva's. We've got a long-established head coach, which should quell any credibility problem like the one John Kuester has with his players, but Detroit illustrates how a reasonably upbeat situation here in Charlotte might turn toxic seemingly overnight.

Musical Interlude: Bonnie Prince Billy -- "World's Greatest" (R. Kelly cover)


Key to Victory: Jonas Jerebko is done for the season, Jason Maxiell may be out, Rodney Stuckey may be out, Ben Wallace may be out, and Hamilton may be out. All those guys were expected to be significant contributors this year. What's been surprising to many, though, is how well the Pistons have been doing without them. Tracy McGrady has been a better point guard this year than he was a wing player the past couple seasons (see: faint praise), and Greg Monroe is hardly a star, but he's holding his own in the middle.

All that's to say that though they're not better, the Pistons are a different type and style of team now than they are when everyone's healthy, and the Cats shouldn't expect a grind-it-out, Hamilton-focused, Larry Brown-style of offense the way they might run when everyone's there.

Detail That May Interest .08% of You: In 1988-89, Kuester was coach at George Washington University, and the Colonials went 1-27 for the season. Yikes.

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I have to disagree on Hamilton somewhat

Yes, he’s not the Rip of old. Yes, his contract is horrible. I would be with you if he were sagging in the lineup and whined about lack of respect. But nearly a month’s worth of DNP-CDs? That seems a bit much. Like you said, who knows what’s going on behind closed doors, but I find the notion that Richard Hamilton isn’t even worth putting on the floor at all for weeks on end a tough one to take.

by djwilliams11 on Feb 2, 2011 12:03 PM EST reply actions  

He was complaining long before being benched

And the reason he was benched was the belief that the Melo 3-way trade with Rip to NJ was going through.

by drapht00 on Feb 2, 2011 1:47 PM EST up reply actions  

speaking of diaw and jackson...

anybody take this deal? the lakers looking to make a move. would give us a center for the future and a solid swing forward with more scoring abilities then diaw.

 http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5vo6fvo

"..and we have scott may coming back this season.." bob johnson quote before the start of 07-08 season, when he didnt even know his own players name.

by bobcatsbrendan on Feb 2, 2011 12:20 PM EST reply actions  

Not too enthusiastic about Bynum's bill of health.

Bynum is just 23, and has had tons of knee issues already. Hell, he’s nursing a knee injury right now. Red flag, anyone?

Also, where does Jack fit on the Lakers’ depth chart? He won’t start over Artest. I suppose he’d get the nod over Barnes or S. Brown, but how would the good Captain feel about a bench role?

Furthermore, this leaves the Lakers ridiculously thin at the center position. All they’d have left is Joe Smith, who is 35 years old, and Theo Ratliff, who is out indefinitely (and even older). This trade would make the Lakers a bit older and slower, which is something I thought they were trying to get away from.

Hopelessly scouring the internet for a free copy of Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "Brujo." and "Hurricane Coming" by CCS.

by Newsinz on Feb 2, 2011 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

He has missed alot of bball with knee issues

2 years ago I would be yeah, get him for sure but now I see a young Big man with Bad Wheels.
I say pass on Bynum.

by Warmec on Feb 2, 2011 10:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats a lot of players that are suppose to be out for Detroit

Hopefully the Cats will take advantage.

"You run plays to get open. If you're open, and you don't shoot, what's the point of running the play?" - Coach Paul Silas of the Charlotte Bobcats

by D.W.G. on Feb 2, 2011 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

Like we did against Utah with Williams out…sigh

"Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Fails To Work Hard" - Kevin Durant

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 2, 2011 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Call me upbeat or unrealistic

But I really don’t think Detroit has three separate 10+ point runs in them to start off 3 of the 4 quarters tonight. I’m thinking 4-2 road trip!

Hopelessly scouring the internet for a free copy of Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "Brujo." and "Hurricane Coming" by CCS.

by Newsinz on Feb 2, 2011 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

4-2 Road Trip Indeed

At the start of this trip, I would have said this game would be a must win for the Bobcats to finish 4-2 (and now it is). This also seems like the kind of game they need to win if they’re to make a return trip to the playoffs. I believe they are up to the task.

by ClipCat on Feb 2, 2011 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

VILLANEUAVA

         Beware of the “Cancer patient”. He has our number. Hope Jack Off shows up so Joe Dumars will reach out to MJ for a Jack-Rip swap.

by chris in union county on Feb 2, 2011 4:09 PM EST reply actions  

I want NO part in Rip's long and insane

contract. We’d be set back for years if we take that on.

Fact: All you care about is points.

Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.

by HAWKEYESBABY on Feb 2, 2011 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

+12,650,000

The crazy thing is, we couldn’t swap the two if we wanted to. We’d have to throw in other pieces to be able to make room for Rip’s ginormous contract. No thank you.

Hopelessly scouring the internet for a free copy of Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "Brujo." and "Hurricane Coming" by CCS.

by Newsinz on Feb 2, 2011 4:29 PM EST up reply actions  

How about we stop talking about trades completely?

just for a little bit?

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Feb 2, 2011 5:41 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

rec!

Fact: All you care about is points.

Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.

by HAWKEYESBABY on Feb 2, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

how about we trade you to another blog….

"Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Fails To Work Hard" - Kevin Durant

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 2, 2011 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I tried, but

neither ESPN or RealGM would let me do it. Andrew’s contract is untradeable.

Fact: All you care about is points.

Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, Carolina Hurricanes, and the Charlotte Bobcats.

by HAWKEYESBABY on Feb 2, 2011 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

untradable is a nice way to say nobody wanted his ass haha

"Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Fails To Work Hard" - Kevin Durant

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 2, 2011 6:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Glad to feel the love...

And for that…I rosterbate in your general direction…

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Feb 2, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions  

You point that thing at me and ill cut it off….

"Hard Work Beats Talent When Talent Fails To Work Hard" - Kevin Durant

by MMA_PITBULL on Feb 2, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Kobe just might kill Jerry Buss if that trade ever happened.

Hopelessly scouring the internet for a free copy of Screamin' Jay Hawkins' "Brujo." and "Hurricane Coming" by CCS.

by Newsinz on Feb 3, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that a bad thing or a good thing...

Bobcats Basketball is my only pro sports passion...

by andrewlail76 on Feb 3, 2011 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

We traded him to tradestreetpost

But all we got was a Greg Oden’s penis exception and a blogger to be named later.

Oh no! We suck again!

by Bring Back Primoz on Feb 2, 2011 6:52 PM EST up reply actions  

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