Heat knock out Bobcats, 96-82 -- Brief box score analysis
The Bobcats lost to the Miami Heat, 96-82. Though an expected result, it still stings to see the Cats so thoroughly dismantled, and it emphasizes the gap between the elite teams and the fringe playoff contenders.
Skimming the box score*, here are several observations. Those of you who saw the game, please chime in with your thoughts.
-- Tyrus Thomas thinks of himself as a wing player. Thus, he shoots jumpers. Which is crazy, because even if he's capable of playing a hybrid wing/post "position", he shouldn't be shooting from so far out, and he definitely shouldn't be shooting as often as he does. His shot location stats this season are kind of insane: 67% at the rim, 33% close in, 35% from close midrange, and 51% from long midrange. That won't last. He has good enough sense not to take any threes, so he's at least somewhat aware of his abilities and limitations. If he's going to be the best player he can be, he can't shoot 14 times in 22 minutes, because he's going to have way too many 4-14 nights, like this one.
-- Is D.J. Augustin an improved player now that he's freed from Larry Brown? Or is this just a fluky jump in performance? We'll have to wait and see, but it's well worth monitoring, because the way Augustin was going under Brown, it looked like he'd be relegated to a reserve role -- or out of the league -- soon enough. Now? He's playing like a guy who'll get signed to be a starter after his rookie deal's done.
-- The Bobcats don't play again until Wednesday, but all twelve guys played. Forget Najera. He's the only one with no reason he should get minutes. In short, Kwame Brown, Boris Diaw, Matt Carroll, and Dominic McGuire might get minutes in order to showcase them as bit players before the trade deadline, and Gerald Henderson, Derrick Brown, Shaun Livingston, and Sherron Collins are all playing for a spot on future teams.
*I know everything is amazing in this wondrous modern age, but no airport I visited today had free WiFi, so I couldn't post until well after the game was over. GHWB Airport in Houston (which I passed through on my trip to the west coast) has it right: 45 minutes free, per day, for anyone, but power users on long layovers have to pay a fee. I'd even reduce that to 15 minutes free, and charge the people who want to do work. (/PeterKing)
Anywho, now that my west coast swing is over, we should be back to our regularly scheduled programming.
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Miami is just a whole lot better than us
I could breakdown the X’s and O’s but honestly, I’m not sure we could beat Miami if we played them 10 times. Just an enormous gap in talent.
David, your point on Tyrus is spot on. He shoots WAY too much. He actually shoots so much he makes Jack look unselfish offensively. Tyrus needs to understand his role, which I think is this: “Let other players create for you and then fill the lane or hit the open 15 footer. But for the love of God, do not try to go one on one with your defender.” Actually, I think he would lose a one on one game with McGuire because Tyrus never scores in that situation and looks really bad most of the time. Although the Tyrus/McGuire game would probably last for days before someone got to 10 points.
And when did Henderson develop the Kwame brick hands? Those 2 layups he blew were huge in the 3rd quarter. I actually started cheering every time he caught a pass after that.
Oh no! We suck again!
by Bring Back Primoz on Jan 3, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions
Tyrus can not create his own shot
It seems that Tyrus still does’t understand his role in offense. He need somebody to feed him and so he can finish it strongly to the rim or hit the open 15 footer. He should always be around the rim for a possible rebound or putback and that is his strength which until now have not been utilize. I’m also thinking that nobody wants to feed him near the rim that’s why he is creating his own shot.
Although
That nifty little out-and-in spin move he pulled in the 2nd for a dunk was really pretty to watch.
I was still impressed by what I saw from the guys
Tyrus was off with the shot, and he does need to slow it down and keep it simple from a reasonable range closer to the rim, he also needs to work on his footwork and playing more controlled than he plays now.
Jackson needs a new role offensively, he doesn’t have the ability to penetrate against most SG’s and when he tries alot of times he loses the ball or he tries a difficult shot at the rim that usually results in a missed shot and a complaint to the ref about a missed foul. I still say he should just catch and shoot like Ray Allen does for Boston, or Reggie used to do in Indiana.
Henderson was ok, but Wade had his way with him. For us to not have Wallace, Nazr, Diop, and Tyrus playing hurt, we played a very good gam, we just got cold in the third and again, I think the catalyst was Jackson missing early and passing up open looks for difficult drives inside.
I think we’ll improve, this team has had alot of adversity early with teamates ripping each other, a coach who didn’t give his all that got fired, injuries, and blow out losses, but through all of that, were playing better and were still in the hunt for the playoffs.If we can get Wallace and Nazr back and healthy, if Tyrus can stay healthy and continue to improve, and we have no further serious injuries, I think this team is gonna be tough in the 2nd half of the season.
I think part of the issue with Tyrus' shot
Was the wrist. Anyone else think his shooting motion looked a bit awkward last night?
Two points
1. If his wrist was hurt that bad it effected his natural shooting motion then DON’T SHOOT! He has got to learn to defer this is the main reason he doesn’t play with the starters, he has no discipline.
2. He’s been hoisting up shots all season so it comes as no surprise he did it again last night. He is not the second coming and if a team offers us something decent for it I’d be all ears. They were right when everyone that wasn’t a Bobcats fan said Tyrus got overpaid last summer.
I disagree with you on both points
The shots Tyrus missed, are shots he normally makes a good percentage of the time. With him being wide open I can see why he’d keep shooting, should he have maybe found someone else to shoot maybe, but when he was really off, the whole team was off we didn’t score until DJ hit the 3 after we went 0-15 in the the 3rd quarter. As for Tyrus being overpaid, I have to ask if you’ve been watching the games this season because the guy has been playing his butt off. I don’t even think I’ve seen anyone on this board mention Tyrus being over paid before.
The guy will be ok, this is his 5th coach in 5 years being in the league he’s got very good numbers and he’s helped us win games, what else do you want from a guy who’s only playing about 20 minutes per? When he becomes a starter and he’s getting about 30 plus minutes a game, he’ll be getting even better numbers and he’ll help us win alot more games.
I think you've keyed in on the entire problem with Tyrus Thomas.
Numerous coaches, each with a different teaching style, each with different requirements, needs, and expectations.
Is it any wonder he sometimes seems uncertain, hesitant, or out of control? He’s going to be a starter. He’s going to be coming off the bench behind a man that is capable of 20 and 10 double-doubles one night and then struggles to pick up a ball on the bounce and has more turnovers than a porno star the next. He needs to play the wing. He needs to crash the lanes. He needs to get inside. He needs to draw the defense out to the perimeter. Which player is he supposed to be THIS time?
It’s obvious to all of us the man has talent and potential. He needs coaching as much or more than any player currently on the Bobcats. Will Silas and Oakley’s good cop/bad cop routine be what he needs? I honestly can’t say. I believe Thomas needs consistency more than anything. As long as he’s getting the same message and working on the same things he should steadily improve.
Is he worth what he’s getting paid? Right now, perhaps not. But I think by the end of his contract he may just be considered one of the league’s bargains.
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
by Ourdaywillcome on Jan 4, 2011 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Let's not forget that Lebron James went nuts also
without him I don’t see the Heat pulling away like they did. The guy was out of sight!
Queen city stench
Glass Half Full: We lost by 14 to the NBA 2010-11 champs with half of a center, no Warrior and five guys who are out of the league (they just don’t know it yet). Woooooooh !
by chris in union county on Jan 4, 2011 12:06 AM EST reply actions
Jaxovirus
Glad to see Jax took his meds. tonight cause Joey C. loves to call the T.
by chris in union county on Jan 4, 2011 12:13 AM EST reply actions
I really only watched the first half
Family had dinner, I checked the score and never went back. That being the case, Hendo looked good in the first half.I thought he played really good D on Wade to that point. Also, McGuire on a minimum contract for 5 or 6 minutes per game sounds like a solid deal to me.
Kwame has some bricks for hands for sure. At least we didn’t lose by 30 while missing so many players that actually get minutes.
Diaw sucks.
This was NOT the night for Diaw to mail it in.
If he had even taken enough shots for his position, he would have pulled the double off of Augustin and Deej might have been able to light it up even better than the 16 he managed to get.
P.S. - Is it an interim fling or a permanent bromance?
by Ourdaywillcome on Jan 4, 2011 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
We needed someone to step up in the third quarter
I noticed that the guys didn’t seem to shoot early in the shot clock like Silas was preaching we would do. I think that and running on the breaks for easy lay ups were what we didn’t do well. I still liked how we played under the circumstances.
by Mr Goodlove on Jan 4, 2011 9:17 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
that's because
the Heat wouldn’t give us open looks early in the shot clock. We really missed Nazr this game.
what frustrated me the most
Was how well and how competitive our team played in the first half, only to get completely slaughtered in the third half. Yes the Heat are a good team, but it’s almost as if we just slaughtered ourselves in the 3rd we were playing so bad.
*lol, not '3rd half,' but 3rd quarter
but you knew that
by Roger, Roger on Jan 4, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly
You simply can’t go 0-for-that-many against a really good team and expect to compete. Such a shame because of how well they were clicking early.
by djwilliams11 on Jan 4, 2011 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Overall I was as happy as one could be with a loss...
The Heat have beaten better teams by much worse, we kept it close in the 1st, 2nd and 4th, even leading for awhile. When Lebron James is on, no player in the NBA can stop him.
Basically, the Heat dominated us for one quarter. There were a lot of factors involved in that.
That said, when you sit down and look at it, you can ultimately blame the loss on the same two players.
Stephen Jackson had too many unassisted turnovers by trying to do too much because he thinks he’s an elite NBA player and he’s not.
Boris Diaw played 12 minutes. He mailed it in after the first quarter. That’s why you didn’t see him alot in the second half. He could have easily been our interior presence with Nazr out, but decided he wasn’t going to play anymore. That’s typical Boris though, he’ll play hard for one quarter, whichever one it may be, and mail it in the other three.
As far as DJ, Tyrus and everyone else, I can’t say too much. DJ was getting trapped and double teamed consistently, Tyrus was missing shots, but at least he was taking them and they were open looks. It could have been McGuire taking those shots after all.
Gerald Henderson played really well despite his shooting woes in the third. Yes, he missed two easy layups, but Lebron also missed two easy layups, so lay off the guy. He played hard every minute he was on the floor.
As did Matt Carroll. If there’s any guy on our roster who takes advantage of his sparce minutes, it’s Carroll.
It was GREAT to see Livingston elevate like that. That dunk most likely went a long way to his confidence because that was easily the most elevation he’s had since he returned from injury. Once he gets his rhythm on offense, he’ll be a great asset. I would love for him to develop a three point game, because he passes up tons of open looks from behind the arc.
Despite his bone headed fouls, I was still impressed with Kwame lat night. Particularly his 3-4 performance from the line. You can see he’s at least trying out there, despite missing the previous three games for what we all assume to be weight and speed issues.
With our three top rebounders out, it was no wonder we struggled on the glass. Kwame did a good job on the offensive glass. That was also the biggest reason for the third quarter collapse. The Heat adjusted at halftime and they forced us to take long jumpers, and when it started to look like a blowout in the making, the younger Bobcats players got caught with deer in the headlights looks and missed easy shots.
To be fair...
Heat players not named LeBron James or Dwayne Wade aren’t exactly in the business of creating a lot of offense.
by djwilliams11 on Jan 4, 2011 11:50 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
Diaw get on my Damn Nerves!
He’s a PF…His mentality should be 1) Score in the low-post. 2) Score from the perimeter. 3) Pass the ball when double-teamed. How the F$%K are you 3 feet from the basket and kick the ball out cross court to give someone else a shot??? If Tyrus had Diaw’s skill, we’d have a Superstar on the Bobcats! I will rejoice the day Diaw is no longer a Bobcat.

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