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The Bobcats fan base's character

Here's hoping your holiday weekend went at least as well as mine did. The Official Fiancee of Rufus on Fire and I spent several days in New York City, touring the metropolis and hanging out with friends. Any time one can eat Cajun Mac N Cheese (andouille sausage, jack and cheddar, peppers, onions, garlic, cajun seasoning, at S'Mac), hit every major NYC landmark, and participate in a fantasy football auction draft with a bunch of college buddies (my team is sixth from the left, the one with Philip Rivers), that's a good weekend.

One of the things that came up was discussion about the character of different fan groups, and that got me thinking about trying to define the Bobcats fan ethos. For the most part, I see us as a slightly defensive, ultimately welcoming, relatively laid-back, group. Our primary hangup seems to be that no one believes we exist -- even people in North Carolina -- so there's consistent positive recognition when new folks identifying as Cats fans come by, mixed with an undercurrent of disappointment that, when it comes to hoops, we're outnumbered by UNC fans (yahoos who never went there, frontrunning elitists who don't really care about basketball) and NC State fans (all yahoos).

But that's also a function of being such a new franchise. Where do you see the fan base going in the medium to long term future? Obviously, the Cats won't steal thunder from UNC or the Panthers while they're still playing, but will they reach that point in our lifetimes?

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Haha that's my friend in the orange shirt

He’s a huge Bobcats fan too.

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Sep 7, 2010 4:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that I know of

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Sep 7, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

mesa boogie triple REC-tified

reference for musicians, but funny none the less. Our Day is my hero.

"It's something I think about on a day to day basis: These Colors Don't Run. Love it or leave it USA #1!"-Ricky Stanzi Iowa QB and Patriot
Blindly Optimistic follower of The Iowa Hawkeyes, San Francisco 49ers, and the Charlotte Bobcats.

by HAWKEYESBABY on Sep 8, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

After reading this, I think I'm going to throw my Fan Blogger blog away

and nominate you. I swear, reading your stuff is better than I ever got paying for ESPN’s Insider.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 8, 2010 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't tell you how much I appreciate that!

I was giving some serious consideration to retooling that post and submitting it to the Fan Blogger. Do y’all think I should? I’m still concerned that the admins will insist on articles spinning everything in a positive light and I’d want to be able to write both the good AND the bad goings on.
Nevertheless, the kind words from y’all have made a very difficult time (my wife is presently in the hospital and will be there for at least several more days) a bit lighter.

My sources can beat up your sources

by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 8, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

IT has to be true...

anyone can be a fanboy, paint their body orange, and be total Pro Bobcat…

A true fan takes the good, takes the bad…
As such is life
Submit it my man!

by andrewlail76 on Sep 8, 2010 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope your wife gets much better soon OD.

As far as the blog goes, you can submit that, or any other of the posts you’ve had and I’m sure you could be a top candidate for the job. Lord knows you put all of my work to shame. Lol.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 8, 2010 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

great post as always

I was one of those disgruntled former Hornets fans. I think I read somewhere a few years ago about places that are hard for pro sport franchises to survive in, and the Carolinas were near the top of the list. Add this to the animosity people felt(and many still do) for George Shinn and the Hornets, and it makes for a very tough crowd to sell tickets to. Fortunately, I think Michael Jordan helps this more than most people realize. He brings in a fanbase without ever having to step on the court. And what’s more, for all the people talking about how bad a job he has done running a team, they are also the people who still tune in to see whether his next move is a good one or a bad one. Also, I have to agree that the team has generally outplayed its limits in the last couple of years. It’s sad but true. Larry Brown knows how to set up his system, and it’s a system that works. Unfortunately, without the occasional superstar that just happens to be an All-NBA defender, and is humble and unselfish with the ball, in adition to the RIGHT players to support him, LB’s system also makes it almost impossible to aim for a championship. As he inches closer to retirement, I think it will be interesting to see what happens with the team, who coaches next, and whether the team can continue to build on it’s current above-averageness.

Anyway, good post. Always enjoy reading a good posting.

by albesir on Sep 10, 2010 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Did you pay $40 for Mendenhall?

by CarolinaDodger on Sep 8, 2010 9:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Yes. My partner is optimistic about him, and all the other top tier backs were gone when we nabbed him. Note that our second back is Jamaal Charles, and we were lucky to get him for as little as we did, because the T-Bone team was bidding against us for their second RB, too, and they were forced to bid up higher than they would have liked on Bradshaw. We got our top end and paid dearly for it in lack of depth, getting totally outbid for Arian Foster later on, and then even getting outbid for Alex Smith and Kyle Orton when we were down to dollar bids, settling for Matt Moore.

Free advice: anyone who gets Brees, Rivers, or Rodgers should pay a small premium to get Alex Smith as the backup QB. Those first three have a Week 10 bye, in which week Smith and the Niners will be coming off a bye and facing the Rams at home.

by David A. Arnott on Sep 8, 2010 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Spiller

CJ Spiller…get him and get him quick
From the Bills
just my .02

by andrewlail76 on Sep 8, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Cats don’t need to steal UNC or the Panther’s thunder. There is a rapidly growing fan base in the Charlotte area. I think the successful colleges in North Carolina only help the Bobcats causes. If you like basketball and are a true fan not a bandwagon fan, you watch the NBA as well as college games. I know I do everything in my power to watch all the Bobcats games as well as all the UNC games, but with the TV contract the Bobcats have it makes it hard to watch the Cats because Charter won’t pay to air the games.

www.twitter.com/jmiller112

by jmiller112 on Sep 8, 2010 11:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Yea that T.V. deal is fucked!

I’d gladly pay to watch the games if there was a venue that would allow me to legally watch them. Instead I have to settle for pirated webcasts.

by and1droid on Sep 8, 2010 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I uncategorically agree!

I prefer to do things legally, but even the NBA league pass blacks out the majority of the Bobcats games. Hopefully the increased recognition and broadened fanbase will lead to some negotiations for a better tv/cable package.

My sources can beat up your sources

by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 8, 2010 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree with part of what you say.

I disagree with your statement: “If you like basketball and are a true fan not a bandwagon fan, you watch the NBA as well as college games.” I have always considered myself an NBA bandwagon fan and a true college basketball fan. If the Bobcats are having a losing season, I will watch Chicago St. play Alcorn St. instead and love every minute of it. I just love college basketball and it calls to me. Actually, even if the Bobcats are winning, I won’t pick Chicago St. vs. Alcorn St., but I would probably watch Texas Tech vs. Ohio St., for instance.

With me, the best the Bobcats can hope for is to become #3. If MJ does all the right moves, I would love to watch the Bobcats play… but I’ll still put UNC and NC State above them. (At least I think I’ll put NC State up that high – I’m now a graduate student at NC State so I haven’t resolved my “grew up loving UNC” with my “I’m a grad student at NC State, so I’m required to cheer for them” dilemma yet. I guess I’ll find out when they play each other… /sigh).

by Tim Rudisill on Sep 9, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

as bobcats fans,

i think we’ve become some of the most tolerant fans on the face of the planet. only die-hard Detroit Lions fans and Clevelanders (god bless that city) have been through more crap than we have. take a look:
1) being an expansion team is all about establishment. the Cats had to establish themselves as a NBA team in a city that had sour feelings with David Stern. by us making ourselves Cats fans in the first place, we decided to put our past memories behind and start anew. we had to accept that the Hornets werent our team anymore, and we needed to find another light to follow.
and then Gerald Wallace came along…

2) look at our first 4 years. i sometimes question how i even made it through those dark times. not that Bernie was a terrible choice, but there’s no doubt in my mind that we could have had a Van Gundy brother, Sam Mitchel, or anybody else that could have made us relevant in the NBA in 3 years. dont even get me started on the Sam Vincent “era”. that was a complete waste of time.

3) we had to put up with Bob Johnson. nuff said.

4) we had to also put up with some very poor drafting: not trading to get CP3, Adam Morrison over anybody else in that draft, and Alexis Ajincia (i think he’ll be good, but our patience was wearing thin. like him)

5) finally, we always have to put up with sports announcers referring to us as “the Hornets”. i find it disrespectful. obviously, we look nothing like the hornets, and for them to call us that just shows that they dont recognize us as a team. maybe im the only one that feels that way.

(dont even get me started on this broadcasting issue)

so with that said, our character as fans is unique. all we really can do is sit back and wait. “our day will come”—that’s the way i see it.
so Cats fans, continue to sit back and enjoy the ride.

--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)

by StudMuffin15 on Sep 8, 2010 9:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Not to even mention

that about 95% of us are former Hornet fans who had to deal with the team being moved after breaking all kind of attendance records, the death of Bobby Phills, and many other terrible things that have happened to Charlotte’s franchises.

by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 9, 2010 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was sick when the Hornets left, and excited beyond explanation when the Bobcats landed

by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

A Bobcats program is like

a porn mag. You’re excited to read it, for the articles of course, but when someone knocks on the door, you quickly throw it under the bed or in a desk drawer and pray no one finds it.

by albesir on Sep 10, 2010 4:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Not me

I’m not embarrassed about being a fan

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Sep 10, 2010 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I proudly wear my Bobcats gear

and have indoctrinated several into the fold.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 11, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me either
I got a Bobcats sticker on the back of my CRV
And I have 2 Bobcats hats
I plan to get more Bobcats stuff when it starts showing up in stores I can afford
That will come as popularity increases

by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 4:42 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Same here

Every time I wear my gear people make fun of me. “Why do you like the Bobcats? They suck…” Ignoramuses don’t realize we have a winning record against the Lakers, took the Cavs 3-1 last season… It doesn’t help that I live in Utah with the most obnoxious fans in the league.

by drapht00 on Sep 10, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ignorant Jazz fans? What?

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Sep 10, 2010 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well, I was kind of being sarcastic

I thought it was kind of funny. Guess not. I don’t have any Bobcats merch as I really can’t afford anything right now. Though everyone in my family knows I’m a Wake fan, so I’ve been getting a ton of Wake stuff since I can remember and could probably open a small shop for the Deacs by now (my favorite is my gold and black tie die t-shirt – I was in a car accident while wearing it and had to convince the EMT not to cut it off me while I was still pretty groggy and nauseous from the crash)

by albesir on Sep 11, 2010 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

why thank you

to be honest official Wake gear like that is expensive and very hard to find. When I got that shirt the only place to get it was from the Wake store in Winston. I think that’s the only place you can find those shirts, or at least it was when I got mine.

by albesir on Sep 11, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

I can take "May"

Off of a Jersey if it is stitched on…
I have a Morrison one to prove it…

Though a May or a Morrison Jersey might just be bad MoJo

by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

sweet

I have the Bobcats front liscense plate on my corolla. Got a Bobcats Beer mug, road sign, hoodie, jersey, and two t shirts. I really need a wallace jersey though and a hat.

by MR. MANN on Sep 12, 2010 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

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