DJ to denver? Dont bash before reading
by weezy21 on Sep 7, 2010 3:02 PM EDT
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"DJ leaves today at 6."Going to claim his shit" words from his mouth. Front office is looking to package Dampier, Wallace and a draft pick to Denver for Melo. LB is a b#tch he wanted to leave so he will continue to b#tch. The rookie swagger is back 14pts 8 assist i'm callin it he doesn't want to be traded anymore. I miss you guys please forward your addresses so I can send flowers.
Love,
Ballwhore"
This was a thread started over on bobcatsplanet.com....wanted to bring it over here to get the discussion going...I have been a member of the site for the past couple years.....this ballwhore guy let us know about the Jrich trade and one more in the past b4 the news broke...he later then came out an told us who he really was....from what i remember, his sister either dates dj or he dates DJ's sister....one of the 2
Anyways....he said at the deadline last year that we were trading DJ to indy for Tj ford...said DJ had told him he was packing up....of course that didnt happen....now he has come back with this "info"...not saying its happening or not...just wanted to pass it on
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11446
maybe James or Ourday can shed some light...although I know Ourday has been reluctant since some idiots emailed him
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maybe it is Dampier, DJ, & a draft pick. Too much salary leaving if GW included for this to work with the cap. Plus Dampier can’t be packaged, so something else from Denver would have to be involved (Billups?). This is likely a faux fan’s hype & speculation to get the real fans agitated and/or excited.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 7, 2010 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
All I can say is that I have not heard this among the rumors I have heard.
Not going down this road again, and just because I haven’t heard this doesn’t mean it’s not happening
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
So from what i got.
DJ wanted to be traded, and DJ dont like larry brown referring to him as a Bitch. If thats in our locker room I hope he does get traded.
I win as if im used to it, and i loose as if i like it for a change.
Okay, I've read it. Can I bash now?
I’ve heard more “they’re shopping Augustin in a package with Dampier” comments from my people in the past several weeks than I’ve had meals.
There are numerous variations – different teams, 2-team trades, 3-team trades, etc.
None of them have come with even a slight whiff of being more than ideas batted around between GM’s over the phone. In any given day, the Bobcats offices receive multiple phone calls from other teams looking for deals. Some are just inquiries of the “is player X available?” variety and some are serious offers. In addition the club makes calls to other teams on a daily basis. It is very rare for one of these calls to get to the finish line and result in an actual trade.
Have I heard this rumor? Yeah I have. I’ve heard it in one form or another at least a dozen times. Not once has one of my people told me it was an actual pending deal. Until someone actually sees DJ buying skis at the local Dick’s, I wouldn’t give it too much credence.
My sources can beat up your sources
I've read those threads over at bcp
This guy is wrong more often than he is right. I’m sure he does really know people in the organization, but he blabs on just about anything whether it’s true or not.
DJ Leaves at 6
Means he was leaving from wherever he was to go to Charlotte at 6. Ballwhore knows DJ personally and has sources high up in the organization. He has called a lot of stuff that eventually went down. According to him, DJ is commited to the team. It is good news that the swagger he had in his rookie yeay is back and he is ready to Claim HIS shit. good news. Also from everything I have heard MJ didn’t let LB leave even though he wanted to and LB is still bitchin about it. This is bad news. The last thing you want is a coach that doesn’t want to be your coach. I think (and hope) everything will be sorted out by early October and we will GET THIS TRAIN CHUGGIN
GO BOBCATS
All of this based on
AS FAR AS I KNOW. this dudes a douche but he has been right about a lot of stuff
So this guy is a prophet?
Is that why everything he says needs to be deciphered?
Not really as much of a prophet
more of an idiot. but an idiot in the know
It's info worth considering based on past history
but it’s part of the mix. Still, I can COMPLETELY buy into the idea that Larry wasn’t keen on coming back. I mean, look at the way he addressed the media briefly when they sent some prospects through workouts. He sounded totally miserable, and like a guy who “had” to be here versus wanting to. Probably catching major crap from the wife, but I also suspect we didn’t give permission to the 76’ers to talk with him. That probably cooked his beans big time.
The interpretation of what DJ said also sounds right on. He’s pumped about the chance to be the man, doesn’t like the crap he took from LB too much, and is determined to be the answer here. Still, I doubt Crash + Damp and a pick gets that done.
I have to disagree...
if Melo really wants out and Denver sees no way of keeping him, then I take a Melo for Dampier, Wallace and a pick ALL DAY! That being said, I hope it doesn’t happen. I keep going back to the SFs rankings that were put out (even though they are subjective) that had GW 4th, right behind Melo. His D is so much better then Melo’s O, and he can play some O on top of that…so I don’t want Gerald to go. I would love to see a trade for Billups, or Brooks however.
I think the fellas over at Bobcats Baseline put it best
Carmelo Anthony is the new Vince Carter.
No way we give up GW and assets for Melo
We have already hashed this one to death.
If Denver is dumping salary and afraid of losing Melo next year, we can offer Damp, DJ, and a pick. We will take Melo without an extension if the pick is a 2nd rounder. We will throw in Nazr and other value for Billups. We get some big time salary, 1 year rental, 1 year well over the luxury line, but it will be one very fine year. Better buy your tickets now.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 8, 2010 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never heard that comparison
but I promise you, it’s the perfect one now that I think about it.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 8, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't want Melo
I want Billups and Nene, or Billups and Birdman3
Hell, I’ll take Aaron Brooks and either of the above mentioned centers in a 3 team deal
Understand your reasoning, and at some levels I agree
Finding a major player to put beside Crash and Jax is the better scenario. But MJ wants a star-level player, and IF (a big IF) Melo really was willing to come here for a multi-year deal, and help Jordan lure other talent in, wouldn’t you pull that trigger? It’s not just about on the court, although that’s still quite a talent to put on your team. It’s about marketing, star-power, and making Charlotte more of a destination for other players. How well Melo and Jax could play together is a great unknown, but I bet he puts fannies in the seats and lights up the scoreboard in a way we’ve never seen.
Fannies in the seats and lighting up the scoreboard
I guess I see it different
I see us replacing an all star with an all star
Replacing a good all around game with a scorer
Still leaves a hole at Center and PG
Bring in all stars we can get at positions that we need
We bring in Carmelo off of a max extension
Who can we afford to bring in once he is here
Other stars wanting to play here or not, if we don’t have salary space, we couldn’t bring them here anyway
See my point?
Salary wise, a Melo addition in my opinion kills the ability to grow…at least for 3 years
We still need a C and PG after he is here, so what did we gain?
by andrewlail76 on Sep 8, 2010 6:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We gain casual fans.
People who go “Carmelo Anthony? He’s a superstar. I want to see him play.”
Yeah, we might not gain any wins, but we gain fans and support, plus overall MJ makes a profit (since the difference in salary is more than made up with the selling of merchandise). And yeah, we might not be able to grow for 3 years, but when other players see that MJ can make Melo into an international brand, they’ll want to play here. I look at it like it’s a risk to make yourself a championship team in 3 years, versus trying to just be a really good one for the next couple of years.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 8, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Melo isn't the type of guy that's going
to attract people to come play with him. He’s going to have to go somewhere and jump on someone else’s squad with cap room (NY). Like mentioned above, he’s Vince Carter 2.0. In three years, I think he’ll be at where Carter was a couple years ago. A great scorer with no heart.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 9, 2010 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions
I f we could keep Gerald then i wouldnt mind having Melo.
But we will probably have to but i would rather go after Chauncey and get Nene or Chris Anderson along with him
Most definitely.
Like I said earlier, I think Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson are starter caliber players on a championship team. Just need some upgrades around them. Like if we landed Chauncey and Nene (like you say), even though we still wouldn’t be the sexiest team on paper, realistically, they could compete with the top tier teams in the East and probably win. The bench would need a little work as well, but having two top 5 players at their position (Jackson and Wallace) at decent salaries (half that of max contracts) puts us in a much better financial space to compete now and make upgrades to push us over the top. We lose all flexibility with Melo. In three years, Charlotte would probably be more of a destination for FA’s if some other guys decided they wanted to play with Melo that bad (doubtful), but it’s also around the time Melo’s extension will be up. And if he wants to leave a team that, minus injuries, can compete for a championship now, imagine how he’s going to feel tied down with the likes of Matt Carrol and Desagana Diop for the duration of their contracts. If we were in better shape financially (if Boris expired this year or Diop expired next), I’d say, let’s do it. But from this scenario, all I can see is doom and gloom. Everyone is talking about how many people Carmelo can put in the seats, but no one is talking about how all it took was a trip to the playoffs, even though we were swept out the 1st round, for the TWC Arena’s tickets renewals to be top 5 in the league. Everyone is all of the sudden blaming Gerald for the team’s lack of success the previous years. Talking about all of his limitations and what now. Melo is limited……..extremely limited………on the defensive side of the ball and in his heart.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 9, 2010 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions
Whoa now -
I’m certainly not blaming Gerald for the team’s lack of success in previous years. I think most (if not almost all) the people on this site know that Wallace gives 100% and it’s certainly not his fault we never made the playoffs before last year.
Regardless though, I think we would have more fans come to the games if we have Melo rather than Wallace. I’m not saying Melo is better, only that Melo has a brand name which is on an entirely different level than Wallace’s. As such, even though Melo is a lot more expensive, that difference is more than made up via ticket sales and swag sales. As such, I think from a business perspective Melo is a more profitable venture. Even if people don’t necessarily want to play with Melo, when they see a superstar get a better brand recognition outside the US, people will want to play for MJ in the expectation that he will do the same for them. It’s hard to do that with Wallace, but making the adjustment for Melo would not be nearly as hard. I just think it makes us a more attractive destination in the future – which is what I really like about the idea.
I don’t like the idea of getting rid of Wallace, if that had to happen. But from a strictly business decision and from a “let’s look at our long-term future” decision, I’d take Melo over Wallace. However, I am the sort of person that thinks long-term as opposed to short-term. If I were the owner, I would make decisions today to try and improve us 5-10 years down the road (of course I would also worry about short-term, but I’m more willing to hurt myself short-term if it means helping myself long-term).
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 9, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Points taken...
But I would go to no more games if Melo was there. I would go if we were winning more games and playing better quality ball.
I don’t want to go watch Melo score 40 points and be a sub .500 team, or be forced to have to watch him with Jax, a WEAK center, and OK point guards.
I still say that Melo may increase some jersey sales…namely his, and his shoes…unless of course he’s on a team that is losing.
Can someone look up a stat like that? Superstars that change teams and the team he goes to loses all the time. DO jersey sales stay up?
to clarify no more games...
I wouln’t go to any more games if he was there than if Gerald was there…a quality product would make me spend my hard earned money before a superstar would
Yes, but are you a "casual" fan?
I would expect the hard-core fans to stay at the same, but Melo could generate so much more excitement and is so much more marketable than Crash.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 10, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Casual fan?
I follow the team year round, so I guess I’m defined more towards hardcore
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 10:23 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Best part is he wants to be traded...
…and the Bobcats aren’t even being mentioned
That kinda screams we’ll be third or 4th fiddle if at all…but we continue to argue why Melo would be good/bad for the team
Guess we will all see what happens after Sept 13th
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 10:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
lol. andrew a casual fan? i dont think i have quite reached hardcore but i think its safe to say you sir, define hardcore
Commenting on every RoF post and
participating in game time threads = hardcore.
Making a guest appearance to say Melo is marketable = casual.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 11, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I’m counting the days until we gather together ‘round the warmth of a roaring monitor to join in the traditional RoF Gameday MST3K Threads. If there is a more fun time for a basketball fan to have on the web, I’ve not found it.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 11, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
I love the in game thread
but it always distracts me from the actual game… not much of a multi-tasker.
I eventually just feed off of our fan banter and let everyone tell me updates
I only do this when the game isn’t on TV?
by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It can be a challenge.
Especially when the comments are flying quicker than replies can be written. Last season I often went back and reread the thread(s) the next morning and discovered a whole lot of funny comments that I missed during the heat of the actual game.
If any of you newer fans are reading this I’ll just invite you to check the threads out this season. Last season it got to the point where David was providing new threads several times per game because the comments were so plentiful that it took forever to refresh the pages!
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 12, 2010 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Then you might have seen me in my new movies
Obviously unccatfan has, since he knows I’m hard-core.
/insert Greg Oden penis joke here.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 11, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey now -
I admit to being a casual fan, but I do read ALL the RoF threads. :-P I just don’t post on most of them.
We’ll see about the game-time threads though. I only showed up to one last year and that wasn’t for very long. But I find myself on RoF more and more.
Also, I figured Andrew was a hard-core fan. My question was more rhetorical to bring up a point that he would follow the team regardless.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 11, 2010 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions
You are correct and I will
And if we get Melo, so be it and I accept it
Fact of the matter us that I always have a hard time when a team trades fir something that isn’t a weak spot
We have a fine piece in Wallace and we are weak at PG and C
I see we have big pieced to move and I think of terms of what can we move them for to get better. I don’t look for ways to draw more fans or sell more t shirts so to speak
I am thinking in terms of how to make a product better
I’ll use the Charlotte Hornets as an example:
Muggsy
Dell
Hawkins
LJ
Zo
by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 11:14 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
David, can you delete this one?
I accidentally hit submit before I was done
Fat fingers on a small keyboard
by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 11:53 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
You are correct and I will
And if we get Melo, so be it and I accept it
Fact of the matter us that I always have a hard time when a team trades fir something that isn’t a weak spot
We have a fine piece in Wallace and we are weak at PG and C
I see we have big pieced to move and I think of terms of what can we move them for to get better. I don’t look for ways to draw more fans or sell more t shirts so to speak
I am thinking in terms of how to make a product better
I’ll use the Charlotte Hornets as an example:
Muggsy
Dell
Hawkins
LJ
Zo
I was sick when Muggsy couldn’t pass a physical and wasn’t re signed
I was mad when Curry was moved
I never understood why we took Anthony Mason over Grandmama
We got rid of Zo
My entire world collapsed
But
Glenn Rice-wow what a shooter
Baron Davis-now I really like this guy at PG
David Wesley-shoot yeah-hard to believe he has the biggest chest on the team (useless trivia)
Did I stop pulling for them? No
Did I hate the moves they made?yes – why split up LJ and Zo? (I know LJs back was shot)
I did stop pulling for them when they left…and when they got Mashburn, Derrick Carter, and Shinn was set to move the team away
I was heartbroken when the team left and I never really pulled for any team…until we got the Bobcats in Charlotte again
Had I heard of any of the players? No
Did I care I they were winning? No
Did I care if the had an all star? No
I was just glad to have an NBA team again
I’m glad to see that a quality team is assembling
Slowly but surely we are winning hometown fans back
They are remembering what fun it was to have pro basketball
I know I never forgot and I know that the Hornets were extremely lucky to be able to draft LJ and Zo
Our drafts have not been so hot, so hopefully through trade, MJ can build a winner
He’s not owned the team for amfull season yet, so
Wait for it…
No need to be on the Melo bandwagon, but if he shows up here, I welcome him, and he better arrive with an open mind, or LB will have him playing UNO with Diop
He still has lots to learn to be a complete Hall of Fame worthy All Star
by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 11:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm also thinking in terms of how to make the Bobcats product better
We are just thinking of different ways of doing it.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 12, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
OK
I’m improving on what we got now, building on the quality we have now
You’re going with a multi-year rebuild
by andrewlail76 on Sep 12, 2010 3:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would not call it a rebuild
as that implies blowing the team up and starting over. Rather, I feel that it’s possible to, at-worst, barely get worse (and quite possibly to get better) for a few years while setting up the infrastructure to really have a permanent improvement in the future.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 12, 2010 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions
YOu tie up any money in 1 player for 3 years...stopping us from being able to sign any other players...
What would you call that? I don’t call it getting better and building. I’m stopping here. No point in arguing something that isn’t going to happen anyway.
My only point is you don’t replace the #4 among SFs in the league for the #3 at way more money when you have a weakness at PG and C. You work to get PG and C stronger, when you haven’t got guys tied up in big contracts. Why pick up a guy that eliminates all wiggle room.
Like I said…stopping now because there is no point in arguing what isn’t happening. I for one hope they Tell Melo to suck it, and they don’t trade him, and they go into rebuild mode, and take all of his supporting cast away. Send us Billups and Nene/ Birdman…for Diop, Diaw, and whatever else makes the trade work…
So tired of these “Stars” wanting to go to another team. Melo has enough in Denver to get into the playoffs…but he just can’t seem to do it. I wonder why? Has to be everyone else huh?
Couldn’t be that his game is to blame?
by andrewlail76 on Sep 12, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree -
if all that you are comparing is raw talent and their salaries. There is so much more to consider, though.
I remember once reading a comparison about vehicles. Crash would be the really nice, yet safe, and cheap version that you know you can always depend on. Melo would be the really nice, dangerous and expensive version that really isn’t any more reliable, faster, or safer, yet for some reason people just seem to stop and stare at it a lot more. And that’s what Melo brings that Crash doesn’t.
I agree that Crash, overall, is probably a little bit better than Melo. And he costs more. So if all you are looking at is the salary cap and talent under that salary cap, then Wallace wins. Easily. No argument here.
But if your goal is to, overall, increase the number of fans, increase merchandising sales, increase ticket sales, increase tv exposure, get more sponsors, expand Charlotte Bobcat awareness not just out of the Carolinas but also outside of the United States, as well as having those little kids look up to a superstar they can call their own (those same kids that eventually might become superstars and want to play for the team their superstar played for), and quite possibly a host of other reasons I can’t think of – you have to go with Melo.
I agree that we should try to get Billups and Nene/Birdman, I just think our chances of getting them are about as high as our chances of getting Melo.
I am also tired of all the stars wanting to go to another team. Heck, part of the reason I really respect both Wallace and Durant is because they are loyal.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 12, 2010 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember when the Hornets drafted George Zideck?
I remember thinking, “Who?” And now I think, “who?”
A must see George Zidek tribute
On youtube at this link.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 12, 2010 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
George Zidek > Primo Brezec
Was that the rookie/sophomore game? Funny.
Is he busy now?
Would he want to come off the bench for the Bobcats?
by andrewlail76 on Sep 12, 2010 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I forgot he was an All-Star
rookie/sophomore
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 13, 2010 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Lmafo.
That guy was absolute garbage
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 15, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
A long andrewlail post is good for the soul.
(heh,heh, couldn’t resist.)
I too consider myself hard core when it comes to the Bobcats.
I was a Hornets from the very beginning and I suffered through the Trepuka years. Many of the events you mentioned softened my fandom, but I hung tough until Shinn’s legal problems started surfacing and his sexual proclivities became public. At that point I quit following the team and cheered loudly when the circus left town. The Hornets proved that this area could support a pro team in style so I knew it was only a matter of a few years before Stern started sniffing around to put another team in the Carolinas. When they announced the formation of the Charlotte Bobcats I was hooked. They were my favorite team before the team colors were even chosen. By the time of the tipoff on opening night I was a full blown addict.
I don’t require a championship. I don’t even require a winning season. All I want is to know that the players and management are ready to work toward creating the best team possible. As long as the Bobcats maintain that commitment to me I will be amongst the loudest advocates a sports team could have.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 12, 2010 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm tearing up here
Sniff sniff
I’m with ya bro
Same feelings-Same desires on the team
by andrewlail76 on Sep 12, 2010 3:39 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Melo can add a small boost in ticket sales and a huge boost in jersey sales,
but that’s all he’ll be worth. Our ticket sales already have a boost from our playoff trip last year. The city of Charlotte doesn’t need a superstar to support their team, just a winning team.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 15, 2010 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions
But I do totally get your point though.
Melo would indeed boost a lot of figures in Charlotte.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Sep 15, 2010 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
"cooked his beans?"
That one gets my nomination as the best since Peter Griffin first complained about how something “grinds my gears.”
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 8, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what to believe anymore...
especially when reports say that he wants to go to NY or CHI now.
Of course the Nuggets have the final say, but we’re not even mentioned anymore.
yea i dont know
if i was denver, id really like deng, taj gibson an some picks…that keeps them very competitive
ESPN is reporting...
that the Bulls and Nuggets are discussing a trade involving Melo for Noah…read here:
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5550421
Anyway we get involved here??
Don't see it happening
There is no way to do this deal without including Deng and I just can’t see Denver wanting any part of that. The biggest problem for Chicago making this deal is they don’t have enough high dollar contracts to get involved in a $25-30 million trade. And to convince Denver to take Deng, Chicago would have to take a few other crappy players and they can’t physically do that. Only way it happens is if a 3rd team will take Deng. Good luck finding someone.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 9, 2010 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd like a package with Wallace even more
but that’s only if I was Denver
i would be pissed if we did not
we have the perfect scenario for the nuggets, it mentions that they dont want someone who just signed a new contract because of the cba situation, we can give 2 expiring contracts and young talent
Thomas Spins To The Baseline And Dunks On Queen James
by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Sep 9, 2010 1:36 PM EDT reply actions
If Denver gets Noah
they may let go of Nene. If we could offer them some cap reliefe and maybe some junk…sorry I mean young talent then I would be quite pleased to pick up Nene
And possibly they would also be interested in dealing Billups
Which could open the door for a monster swap between CHA and DEN of Damp, Diaw and DJ for Chauncey and Nene. A lot depends on what the Bulls would ultimately offer. But you’ve gotta believe anything including Noah would require Deng to make saleries work. But, Denver reportedly doesn’t want Luol and his long contract. There’s no other way to make this work, and even then it’s a long shot based on possible players/salaries. Do the Bulls have some large trade exception? Not to my knowledge. This deal would require another team (or 2) to get done without Deng. Plus, if Chicago deals Noah, who’s gonna play the 5 for the Bulls?
Probably requires another team
But does someone else want to take back Deng’s contract? You have to think that we are the most appealing third team because of Dampier. But I’m sure we want no part of Deng. Contract is too long, too much, and he’s not as good as his Bobcats counterpart, the beloved Gerald Wallace. Bulls have to be a long shot because of salaries.
this will work financially
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5690557
gives us who we want…chicago get who they want….an denver gets a lot of skilled young talent….has to eat deng an diaw’s contract tho….but maybe they would for this return
Hmmm...
Let me approach this another way then…
As covered earlier in the off season, in 2 separate posts…
WE DON"T WANT HIM!
LOL
Yeah, I’m sure he’s following the Bobcats real closely. (sarcasm off)
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 9, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a ridiculous trade
We’ll be the worst team in the NBA in 2 years and having to trade Crash for garbage b/c we’ll be rebuilding.
All the players involved in that trade could field and entire team
Outside the realm of possible
Not feasible
No way Denver could bring in 9 players and dump 4.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 9, 2010 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Most reports have Melo asking the Nuggets to trade him to the Bulls.
I’ve seen several saying the Denver is reluctant to do it because they don’t want Deng’s contract at all. Does anyone else find it funny that we went from “Melo is demanding a trade” to “Melo is thrilled to stay in Denver” and back to “Melo is demanding a trade” again in only a matter of a week or so? The whole thing reeks of Melo getting the media to suckle at his teat. I don’t want the drama and horsecrap. I will now be deeply disappointed to see him in Charlotte regardless of whether it costs us Crash or not.
It all makes zero sense because of one overwhelming fact:
If you are in dire need of help at point and center you don’t waste your time shopping for a position where you have minimal need. Or to put it another way, “Okay, we’re set at the 2 and 3 better than ever in the history of the team, so let’s work on trading our cornerstone player to pick up someone to fill the hole created by trading said player away.”
Any trade that fails to bring in a solid point guard or decent center is a waste of time and energy and will absolutely guarantee that the Charlotte Bobcats will be mired in mediocrity for at least 2 seasons. I don’t give a bean burrito fart how good a single player is. This team cannot compete at the highest levels of the playoffs with a shaky bench and only 3 of the 5 starting positions filled with true starters.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 10, 2010 1:36 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
+1
Hard to disagree with a post that includes “teat” and “bean burrito fart.” If we are talking to Denver, I would hope it’s for Billups.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 10, 2010 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
I +1 your +1
i totally agree with that. Having chauncey (and nene) and even possibly j.r. smith as a 6th man would be so much better than only melo
Okay i know I would rather have Nene
But if all we could get was Birdman do you think he has the talent to be a starter?
I would say yes
Birdman
Nazr
Kwame
Diop
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 4:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I would like to think so
We can offer salary relief galore
I could see dampier, dj, diaw, and even Carroll, najera, Nazr, diop, And/or McGuire in the mix for Denver to unload billups nene birdman, and/or jr
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 10:30 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Team preparing for roster changes?
That’s a lot of power/small forwards… Spetember 13th can’t come soon enough for me.
My guess would be
McGuire, Najera are bubble guys and one may be gone by the time camp is gone
Najera in a trade and McGuire in a dump, if Miles outplays him
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 4:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
In the immortal words of Juno Macguff...
“DREAM BIG!” Here’s hoping there’s more in the pipeline than that.
Najera is garunteed
Not sure about Mcguire
Thinking
Collins and dampier lowers us to 15
Not sure McGuire is guaranteed
If not, that drops us to 14
if a trade of dampier, najera, dj happened for a PG and C…and we waive Collins and kwame or Collins kwame and McGuire
That puts us at 12
Right?
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 10:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
We'll know more as camp starts
And what. Happens with damps
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 10:35 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I was thinking
If a certain trade was made, we may not need Collins
by andrewlail76 on Sep 10, 2010 11:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes
But I speculate nothing
We’ll know when we know
by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yeah I just hope it happens soon
I mean for all we know they might have it all worked out there just gona wait till monday. I doubt it though since that new GM in Denver hasnt even met with Melo and said he wants to convince him to stay.
Good for them...
What I find funny is how teams are starting to do what we as Bobcats fans are doing. You take that pause…look again…and go…well he’s defined as a superstar and he can score a lot of points…but…what else can he do for the team…
Nah, we’ll stick with what we got
by andrewlail76 on Sep 11, 2010 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
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