Community projection: Nazr Mohammed
Little was expected of Nazr Mohammed last season, especially after a disastrous 2008-09, when he played only 341 minutes and looked as washed up as can be. For a point of reference, Sean May played 301 minutes that season and DeSagana Diop played a whopping 584. Not good times.
But in 2009-10, improbably, Mohammed had a career year. He only played in 58 games, and totaled only 984 minutes, but when he did play, he put up a career high FG%, career low turnover percentage, came close to equalling his career best rebound percentages, and had his career-best PER, at 19.6.
Last season's performance matters a lot when trying to guess what he'll do this year, but so does the previous season, and the season before that, and so on. Will Mohammed improve his defense from Atrocious to Acceptable? Will he stay healthy enough to provide some kind of offensive threat in a platoon with Kwame Brown? Will he step up his Twitter game and actually post something of interest instead of re-tweeting "inspirational" treacle from other people? I really want to know.
48 games
950 minutes
14.0 points/40
10.0 rebounds/40
No defensive improvement, leading Larry Brown to play Kwame way more than he deserves.
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His twitter game is pretty weak
Makes me kind of glad he blocked me lol
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by Ben Swanson on Sep 21, 2010 10:54 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Brown has to use his players according to their skills.
One thing that has been noted about Larry Brown in his coaching career is that he builds teams and trains players to match a certain set of specifications. Players that don’t fit the “Brown Mold” (the player profile as opposed to the virulent fungal spore) tend to spend a lot of time on the bench. I feel it’s LB’s greatest weakness as a coach. You can’t make a peach tree produce oranges no matter how you try (to rob an analogy from Mulan) and you can’t make a basketballer play against his natural abilities.
In the right circumstances Nazr Mohammed can thrive. He proved that last year. You just have to be aware of his needs and limitations. The biggest is that he plays his best when held under 25 minutes per. After that his production falls off. The more frequently you push the man past the 30 minute mark, the more likely he is to develop nagging injuries that are just bad enough to take him out of action. We start the season with “Center by Committee” and Nazr is going to be a major part of that process. If forced to play too often or too long we’ll lose him to injury. His success this season is directly proportional to how well Larry Brown recognizes this limitation. We can expect Nazr to perform as well as he did last year unless Brown is pushed into over-utilizing him. If he does get hurt we’re likely to see a lot of jury-rigged lineups with Diaw at the 5.
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by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 21, 2010 10:55 AM EDT reply actions
Nazr was a good Center until the injury last year
Defense was an issue against talented true Centers. Centers that combine speed and muscle were a problem for him. However, he could hold his own against many of Centers in the league. If the opposition was a little slow or a little short Nazr handled them fine. He doesn’t offer much as a goalie trying to alter other players shots. Nazr is good on the boards and compared to our other Centers, he can actually give an offensive boost to the team. If he can stay healthy he will be an asset next year. My biggest concern is that his back injury never really went away. He may not be the same player as last year due to the injury.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Sep 21, 2010 11:36 AM EDT reply actions
Wilt Chamberlains's one-game record 55 rebounds will be shattered by Nazr
If you count the rebound total out over Nazr’s first 10 games. Kwame is going to earn the starting spot, but isn’t that best? Nazr is a legit back-up. Championship pedigree baby – 2 NCAA titles, ’04 – ’05 champion. Though my heart will always be smashed on the rocks for shipping Herrmann away….
by bobcatRedemption on Sep 21, 2010 5:30 PM EDT reply actions
When this happens people are really gonna get mad, but...
This will play out as a big ol game of “If”. IF Diop and Brown are able to impress LB with discipline and great defense, Nazr will be traded. It will be his contract and not his game that will attract some team into a deal. Although he is by far the best scoring option at the 5, he is weaker on defense than LB will feel comfortable with. I think he is definately going to be dealt. I just hope he plays healthy and strong at the seasons start to increase his value. Just an opinion…
Agree this is likely if those things pan out...
Nazr is now our best trade asset (if we elect to use it), but I doubt he comes into play until the trade deadline (if at all). We need his production badly, given the ineffectiveness of Diop and the injury history of Kwame and Nazr. Between the 3 of them we’ll get 1-1/2 centers on this team.
agreed...
I’d love to shore up our position at center. Gortat would be a nice add, unreal though
by bobcatRedemption on Sep 21, 2010 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
I would throw up if that happened. Over and over again actually.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 21, 2010 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd rather play Gerald Henderson at the 5.
If I were to make a list of my least favorite players in the NBA right now, Gortat would be very close to the top. I’m going to have a VERY hard time if he ever suits up for the Bobcats.
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by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 21, 2010 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Off topic, but saw on ESPN that Javaris Crittenton has a camp invite
I like it. He might be able to beat out Sherron Collins and be a big body at PG. He was solid as a freshman at GT but things went kinda crazy for him, ending in the whole Arenas situation last year. Hopefully he accepts the invite and we can see what he has to offer.
We could do a lot worse.
He got caught up in ugly drama and he’s now considered tainted goods, but there’s a good player in there waiting for the chance to break out.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 21, 2010 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
yes fill the team with criminals!
this isn’t the prison league but there are some decent players here that just need a chance
reminds ne if the 08 team
i think thy went to the world series
by The Juicer on Sep 8, 2010 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Could be a great situation for both parties involved...
I would love to see Crittenton in our camp. This is a big PG with above average defense and an alright offensive game. We are the “Team of second chances”. If this kids agent knows what’s best for his client, i have no doubt the Cat’s would be an ideal stage for a potential comeback. Wait for it, right?
It'd be hard to go wrong w/ Crittenton
I wouldn’t want him to start, but he could be a good option as a defensive stopper if D.J.’s getting burned and Livingston needs a rest
If he's able to put the past behind him as he promises, this is a great get for the Cats.
As the season develops he could easily supplant either DJ or Livingston as the backup PG. This doesn’t solve our problems at the one but it definitely increases our options and potential. He’s a step in the right direction.
So we have center by committee, why not point guard by committee as well?
The bigger question is, who will we let go to make room for him on the squad? I don’t think there’s much room for anyone to fight their way onto the team by walking in and shining at camp. Or am I dead wrong?
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by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 22, 2010 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's my 2.3 cents
Nazr is definitely not the answer at the 5 spot, but…. I was only able to attend one game last year, the last home game against Orlando. GW didn’t score his first point until well into the 4th quarter and the ’Cats had to make a furious last minute comeback to force overtime(in which we reverted to play similar to the better part of regulation and lost by about 10). Nazr carried the load that game and is capable of admirable fill-in work like that.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity." Hanlon's Razor
Nazr can carry a game and play 35 minutes or more.
But he can only do it about once a month. The minutes have an accumulative effect on him. He’s most efficient (and comfortable) coming off the bench a couple of times and putting in a solid 20-25 per game. I’ve never seen the man complain about picking up an extra share of work (like last season when Chandler went out with his back spasms.)
Oh, and since Chandler’s gone I’m gonna finally give the reason why I hated the man so completely. He was out with bad back spasms. So was Boris Diaw and Nazr was struggling with them as well. I’m a man who knows a thing or 300 about back spasms. I was at one of the games during Chandler’s back injury. I watched him stroll out, hop up the Cable Center steps and park himself behind the bench. SEVERAL minutes later, Boris and Nazr came out of the tunnel. Nazr had obviously had some work done by the trainers in the locker room but he was still walking as if he were setting his bare feet on thumbtacks each time he took a step. Boris walked… well to be honest, he walked like I do when I’m not using my chair.
Bluntly, Nazr and Boris had the expressions and the body language of men suffering specifically of back spasms. I see it on my own face and on the faces of dozens of other people when I go for my monthly treatments at the specialist. Tyson Chandler was stone chillin’ and turning around to joke with people until LB came out and then his entire expression changed to one of a man in agony. I’ve mucked many a pen in my day and I know horseshit when I see it. Chandler’s back injury was as real as Paulie Shore’s chance at a Lifetime Achievement Oscar.
When the team went in at halftime I stood up as best I could from my chair and yelled down at Chandler, “wanna borrow my chair? Your acting might improve with a prop!” I was rewarded by him raising his arm behind his head and giving me the finger – which by the way is something ELSE you can’t do if you’re really having back spasms.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 21, 2010 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
That was awesome
How can you top a post that breaks down the ability of a person with back spasms to flip you the bird.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 21, 2010 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
You can't
Good Riddance to bad rubbish…I just don’t know how you could see his finger through those gloves:
Will he be missed?
NAAAAHH!!!
by andrewlail76 on Sep 21, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
The thing is...
we all get the “blue flu” once in a while and take time off from the job for no real reason. Mental health days are just a fact of life. But most of us aren’t getting paid tens of thousands of dollars a week and most of us wouldn’t be comfortable sitting around while our coworkers are already overworked and badly shorthanded. How many of us would stay home with blue flu if we already knew that there were several others on vacation or out sick already?
Nazr was on the floor doing his job in clear pain. When Coach Brown subbed him I watched Nazr sit with his legs and hands trembling yet it was less than 5 minutes later that Brown glanced back at him and Nazr said, “I’m good coach.”
To me that says more about both men than any stat sheet fact could ever provide. That night Nazr’s stock went way up in my eyes and I downgraded Chandler’s to “dump” status.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 22, 2010 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions
Last season
I was very impressed and glad with Nazr’s performance. The dude spent the previous season completely ignored, and it frustrated me that we kept him on the bench so long. Ok, so he doesn’t exactly fit in the team mold or system Brown was trying to do, ok. No one really wanted him. Ok. But he was brought on before Brown came, and in essence, we were ‘stuck’ with Nazr for several seasons. Might as well use him from time to time.
It was rewarding last season to watch Nazr step up to the plate and accept the challenge he was given. As we know, playing time takes quite a toll on him these days, as we saw last season. Sadly, I’m not expecting the same performance this year that he gave us last season, but I do know that when Nazr gets playing time —for whatever minutes—he will contribute to the best of his abilities and with hustle and earnest.
Way I sees it, seems like we’re going to be operating some combo of Diop, Nazr, and Brown, at least initially. This will certainly be interesting to see how it plays out.
Will Diop finally step up and take advantage of this new opportunity? Will Brown?
sorry,
I did not mean to cross out “for whatever minutes”
by Roger, Roger on Sep 21, 2010 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I like your optimism
And I’d love to see Diop step up…however….
Next week will tell all.
by andrewlail76 on Sep 21, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Nazr and DJ: Trade bait.
It is odd that David chose DJ and Nazr to start the projections, because i would not be surprised to see both of these guys wearing different jerseys by Christmas (or Ramadan).
DJ is one of the few young, cheap players on the Bobcats’ roster that other teams might be interested in. If we pursue a trade for a starting PG we very well might have to give up a young PG back up to make it happen. I could see multiple teams potentially being interested in DJ under certain circumstances: NJ, DEN, NO, HOU, POR., even NY if they were jockeying for Melo in a three way trade.
Nazr is an obvious trade candidate: An expiring contract of considerable size for a serviceable big man that can score off the bench. Any team could be interested in a player like that.
However, I think Nazr has another decent season in him for next year. And DJ is primed to come out of his sophomore slump, IMO. So if the Bobcats do stand pat with these two, i can envision averages 8 points & 4 rebounds for Nazr and 12 & 4 assists for DJ.
Rosterbating Nazr and DJ
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5697879
These links are for the same trade: one from ESPN one RealGM.
Charlotte gets: Chauncey Billups
New York gets: Carmelo Anthony
Denver gets: Nazr, DJ, Najera, Azabuke, Wilson Chandler, & Eddy Curry
Charlotte gets their All-Pro PG to reunite with LB.
New York gets Anthony fin exchange or three expiring contracts of forwards.
Denver gives up All Stars, unhappy Melo and aging Billups, and in return they get a cheap young back up PG, $7 mil expiring center and solid SF backup from CHA . Plus three good-sized expiring contracts and decent talent from NY. They give up their stars, but after this season save $25 million and still have a young cheap PG and SF to boot.
This trade seems to actually work for all three teams. I’m for it. Make it happen MJ!
I think the more exact term is Ashura, and it's always in December
My last girl freind was Muslim so i’ve fasted and feasted with them.
Oh, so you didn't mean Ramadan
I would hate to have my Ramadan on Christmas or Thanksgiving. That’s when all the good eating happens.
It is Ashura, but her family always called it Ramadan.
For Ashura and/or Ramadan, though, you only have to feast when it’s daylight outside. Once it’s dark out you’re free to chow down. So you fast all day and feast all nite.
Different people celebrate that differently
I know several people who pretty much go hungry for a month.
I think you meant you only have to "fast" when it's daylight.
Why do they call it a fast when it goes so damned slow?
FWIW, the Ashura commemoration varies slightly depending on whether the person is Shiite or Sunni.
While we’re kinda-sorta on the subject, for anyone thinking the whole Ramadan daylight fasting thing is odd, the Bible also advocates fasting and lengthy abstinance from things that bring pleasure. The period of Lent is a good example.
Also, members of my religious faith (Baha’i) also have a 19 day daylight fast each year. The rules are fairly strict in the sense that pregnant women, heavy laborers, the sick and infirmed, nursing mothers, and several other circumstances exempt people from the fast. It’s as much a violation of the fast to do it when exempted as it is to not fast when healthy. The theory behind it is that you spend the time you would normally spend eating in prayer and study of the scriptures. While it is a physical daylight fast, it is in fact a spiritual feast and that aspect of it is far more essential and rewarding than the mere avoidance of food during the day. My back injuries prevent my participation and I find that I miss it greatly each year.
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by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 22, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions

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