everybody but mike read about billups, does not mean we are definately getting him
by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Aug 29, 2010 10:14 AM EDT
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9:38AM ET Chauncey Billups | Nuggets
UPDATE: We checked in with ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher about some potential landing spots for Billups if Denver also decides to trade him.
We've attached that commentary to the bottom of this update.
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Carmelo Anthony wants out. The Nuggets want J.R. Smith out. And Kenyon Martin, entering the final year of his lucrative contract, is out while he recovers from knee surgery. In addition, Chris Andersen is expected to miss the beginning of the regular season, too, after offseason surgery.
ESPN.com's John Hollinger made a good point Thursday via his Twitter page regarding Chauncey Billups' future with the Nuggets.
Hollinger tweeted: "Remember, if the Nuggets trade Melo and rebuild, there's really no point in them keeping Billups either. Could be two All-Stars on market."
Billups is from Denver and welcomed the opportunity to play in front of family and friends, but he may seek a trade to a playoff contender, or the team may see what the can get for the veteran point guard since they are in a rebuilding-mode.
Billups, who will turn 34 on Sept. 25, has two years remaining on his contract. He'll make $13.15 million for 2010-11 and $14.2 million for 2011-12, but only $3.7 million of that is guaranteed.
Any teams needing a point guard and who think they can challenge for the NBA title this season should contact the Nuggets.
ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher
Billups' leadership could help a number of teams
"Charlotte is in desperate need of a starting point guard and could offer cap relief, a seemingly attractive thing if Denver is starting over. If Golden State is looking to change its lackadaisical culture, Billups could help there, too. The Kings, Nets, Clippers and Grizzlies are relatively young teams that could benefit from his presence, too. But if Billups' dream scenario of riding into the sunset chasing another ring in his hometown has gone poof, the least he'd want is the chance to still chase a ring elsewhere. Teams that would keep the dream alive and have assets to send back are the Rockets, Magic and Hawks."
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I'd take a trade for Billups before a trade for Melo.
I honestly think we’d be a much better team with Chauncey running the point and Crash, Jax, and Tyrus there to benefit from it.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Aug 29, 2010 1:04 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
and 1
The more I think about Melo, the less I want him on the team. Even if we didn’t have to trade Crash to get him, we can’t play them together so what’s the point. An outstanding pg is a far more pressing need than a scoring SF.
Going against the trend
but I don’t want him unless we give up no future first round picks, don’t give up any young talent or some of our core.
He is old, way old. You get a couple of years out of him and thats it.
Basically only if Denver want to dump salary do I do a trade for him.
I see your point about the draft picks...kinda
but what young talent do we have that isn’t replacable? Our young talent is D.J., Hendo, and D.Brown. If they’re on our team I’ll go with anyone of them. I acknowledge that they all do have talent and at can contribute to a good team. But replacing these players would be far easier than finding a starting PG on the level of Billups.
If we are winning these 1st round draft picks will be
the 20th selection or later, especially if they are protected. If we can bring talent for these picks, I say bring the talent. Unless you are lucky, you don’t get much from pick #20 or later.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Aug 30, 2010 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions
+1
Warmec you are 100% correct
One thing i can do...................is FINGER ROLL.
by gunnin' gervin on Aug 30, 2010 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Wait... I'm confused
Was Ric Bucher’s speculation in ESPN the Magazine your ‘guy’?
Or do you have someone inside the organization who’s tipped their hand to this?
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
That was my curiosity
You did say you worked for the Bobcats, didn’t you…and you have a source within?
by andrewlail76 on Aug 29, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
im the one who works for them
haha an naw ric wasnt my source
inside the organization
he is a ticket rep that is friends with someone who is in the room when the discussions happen on who to get
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Aug 29, 2010 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
And just because I disagree with you
Does not mean you have to respond in all caps and start cussing me out. If you truly do, then congrats I am mistaken. Just saying my opinion, which as you have stated (in many run-on sentences), is what this blog is for.
GSO
I love Billups an I would love to have him as a Bobcat, i think he is a perfect fit and I would be much more excited about the new season.
T time I love the Title of this post priceless
thanks, i tried
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Aug 29, 2010 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
ehh I'd rather have the deal Hollinger proposed...
and get Aaron Brooks
Same here,
pass on Billups, try to get Brooks.
Like Brooks also, but does he fit better than Billups?
I doubt it becomes an option as I just don’t see Melo getting dealt to Houston.
He fits better for longer
Likely cheaper too, even with an extension
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
A knock on Brooks is his height
At 5-11 he could prove to be defensive liability.
Yes, Brooks had a break out season last year, but he needs to do it for multiple years running before i have the same level of confidence in his game that i have in the 6-3 former Finals MVP Billups’.
The advantage to Brooks is his youth and inexpensive contract
If you’re talking about who’s better next season it’s Billups all the way.
by and1droid on Aug 30, 2010 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Billups has 1 maybe 2 years left in him
Brooks has multiple years left on a cheap contract. His size was his knock coming into the league and he has proven he can still play. After watching him at Oregon if he was able to overcome his size disadvantage in the league (which he has) he’s here to stay.
I fear that Brooks
could turn into DJ….
by dudemanhey on Aug 30, 2010 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
No need for the title, but it is pretty funny
All I had been saying was if you were going to post a thread that could be shown on the main page, try and clean it up/be professional about it. Claiming that we basically already have Billups and having it hard to understand does not help. It’s much easier to read posts/comments if they are not in run-on sentences and at least have some form of punctuation. If you are going to take the trouble to make a post, why not make it look nice, read smoothly, and have accurate information?
Like I said above, I’m not here to continue to belittle you, I am just trying to help. Please do not respond to this post in anger, as it is unneeded.
GSO
ok, but this is a sports blog, not a college essay, it doesnt not have to be grammatically correct, i do not receive a grade
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Aug 31, 2010 5:41 AM EDT up reply actions
i think he is trying to say just make it really professional to get your point across better
the other post was a little hard to understand
Why do people keep throwing the word "professional" around?
None of us are doing anything professional while on this blog. In fact, I’m being about as unprofessional as I can be seeing as how I’m usually at work when I read this blog. I know I’m not the only one who gets on here while at work.
I’m not trying to give you shit TS because I respect your opinions. I’ve seen several people use the word. I’m just saying it’s a kind of a silly cliche that has started popping up around here. Is everyone else here getting a paycheck that I’m missing out on?
+ $0.01
Now you owe an even $17.50
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm just spending my time in the minors to pay my dues.
I thought RoF was part of the farm club system. One day my phone is gonna ring and I’m gonna get called up to the show. I’ll be one of the admins on one of those truly professional blog sites we’ve all heard about where the bosses rake in the big bucks with their skilled pontifications.
But until that day I’ll keep posting here and maintaining my fantasy blog league just like everyone else. Speaking of which, Matt Drudge is posting some pretty good numbers this season. I traded Harry Coyne from Ain’t It Cool News to get him.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Aug 31, 2010 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions
And here I am bloggin' for free like a sucker!
I think I’m gonna take my talents to Europe. Tax free contracts, weekends in south France. I can live w/ that.
As long as you come back and blog for our national team.
It wouldn’t be the Olympics without ya!
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Aug 31, 2010 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey Ourday
Let’s just start blogging for FC Barcelona and live like the Kings of Spain. Do you think Gerald Wallace knows how to play soccer?
And yes, I will be back for the blog Olympics.
I think Crash would be an excellent soccer (or rugby) player.
About the only sports I don’t see him excelling in are synchronized swimming (nobody could match his moves in synch) and rhythmic gymnastics (in his hands the props would become licensed weapons.)
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 1, 2010 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh, I think it's the more "figurative" professional.
Do others as you would have them do you, or something like that. Basically, it’s a sort of etiquette. Heck, if you are writing a post it is because you want people to read it. The least you could do is make it easy for them to read.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 31, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Well written and professional are two different ideas
similar, but different.
I’m just pointing out how silly we all sound appealing to professionalism on a sports blog.
I heard and saw that...
Aaron Brooks has some hops. He’d be a great fit with our team! If it’s not Billiups then I’d rather have Brooks. Especially more so than Calderon or Ford!
He's a scoring PG
Like Devin Harris…. I love both of their games, but neither are really good passers. I wonder how either would slot in with what Larry Brown is trying to do.
I want the second coming of Jason Kidd and Steve Nash… wherever that player may be (I"m looking at you Ricky Rubio)
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
Rubio...
First and foremost, i don’t believe he is comming to the NBA this season. Second, who is this guy? He has a great name and he made a couple of plays against team USA. I have seen (fill in the blank player) play and i can measure what his value would be to the Cats. I just can’t say the same thing about Rubio. BUT… If we could get him at a resonable price, and get him to play in NBA this season, then i would be all for it. Nothing like the overwhelming wonder of the unknown commodity!!!
i dont get that you would think he would get payed more and be a star its almost dumb
unless he just wants to play close to home
Thats not what i meant buddy...
I don’t know his Spainish league salary. I also don’t know what he would be making as a Timber Wolf (hehe). That doesn’t matter. I’m saying he could be a HUGE star in the NBA. Playing for MJ would do nothing but enhance his marketability. He would also give us a “face”. I think it could be a great situation for him. I’m not exactly sure of his age (19?), but i think that is a big reason he isn’t in the NBA right now. The bigger reason might be the fact he doesn’t want to play for the Wolfs!!!
Gotcha
I don’t know the details as to why he is still in Spain. I do know that he is expected to come to the states NEXT year. I wonder, if his rights were dealt, if he would even consider coming over for THIS season? Maybe the idea of playing for a HOF coach and the GOAT as an owner would somehow sway him? If so, something would need to happen pretty quickly…
Rubio is 19
I’ve been following his career since he first started playing pro ball when he was 14.
The reason he’s not over here are twofold:
1. He’s locked into a contract and his family can’t afford the $2 million buyout
2. He’s angry that the Wolves drafted him and Johnny Flynn back to back
He’s unproven, sure… but so was Tony Parker when the Spurs brought him over from France.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I want my PG to play like a PG!!!
Couldn’t the team that owns his rights buy out his current contract? So, i guess he doesn’t want to be in Minn? I wouldn’t think it would cost too much to get those rights, but who knows with the T-wolves. I hear he is very Kidd-like. Great eyes, brilliant passes, solid D, and just like Kidd at his age, he doesn’t have a very good shot. Is that pretty accurate? I can deal with that out of a 19 year old prospect for sure. I have a strange feeling that you know something James…just kidding ol’ sport!!!
This is pretty much all you need to know about this kid
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12FOZsjWxwk
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
If that's the case then Johnny Flynn is going to be available via trade.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Aug 31, 2010 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
In 2011?
After all those major changes to the salary cap, salaries, and the potential lockout year? Yeah… after those, he might just decide to stay in Europe.
by Tim Rudisill on Aug 31, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Really don't like Brooks
Not a good game manager, horrible A/T ratio, bad shooter, below solid defense. Only thing he can do is shoot.
I would rather have a game manager like Calderon any day, or a penetrator that can spread the offense open
GSO
Just messing with you
Sad that I have to acknowledge my joking, but this blog has gotten a little out of control with the heat this summer
No worries man I know you were, I just messed up
should have preread it, was in a hurry i guess haha
GSO
mike, need to work on your grammar, bad shooter, that can only shoot? is that possible
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Sep 1, 2010 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions
nah, im just trying to make it a fair fight, if i get belittled, i will do the same back. if i get laughed at for grammar, i will laugh back, i didnt start this, but the lead writer for the new york times did, mr. professional journalist with a phd in
grammar
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Sep 1, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
at least be clever..
You fail on all accounts, love the huge overuse of commas in a post declaring you are “laughing at my grammar”. Please continue, your posts provide me with late night laughs before I hit the bed. :)
GSO
BTW does anyone want to defend Brooks?
B/c it did seem a bunch of people were for him, and I just don’t see why
GSO
Jesus Christ...
I can’t determine which one you is more immature. Are you guys like 12? Mike Train probably have been a little hostile man, but haven’t seen anything to controversial from you in a while so not gonna call you out to much. T-Time? Seriously? He was conversing with another poster and then you come out of no where to start crap again? Dude ignore it. I don’t care how much you think he’s called you out. You’re just as bad, if not worse for continuing it. Be the bigger man. Make it a fair fight? Lol, oh my god it’s a freaking online blog. Geeeeeeeeeeeeez, kids these days.
Mike atleast seems like he listened to what we have to say
So i have respect for him for that he hasnt said anything mean to anyone so i dont think theres a need to start that again
but be prepared to be held to the same standards that you expect others to.
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Sep 2, 2010 6:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Here we go again ......
Guys, please grow up and stop this crap. What’s ruining these blogs is not poor grammar. It’s watching you two bicker over and over again on every thread. Shut up please.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 2, 2010 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions
No, I would have to say it's the poor grammar.
I’m baffled that someone could be so naive and and childish. For anyone who says I have been immature, look at my posts and his. I am sorry this all happened, I should have known better than to try and show a high schooler what modesty, self control, and correct grammar are. I should have known it would turn into piss.
And please T-time, hold me to the highest standard- my professors are much better judges of all education aspects than you are.
GSO
Dude, really?
Please go to another NBA teams blog site and see how terribly written they are. Not just one or two, but almost all of them. They are full of dirty words and poorly written sentences. I like your opinion on basketball Mike, but the rest of this has gotten stale. I thought all of this had been resolved. You are in college…yay. Please stop trying to convince everyone how intellectual you are and start acting like an intellectual. You come off as a bully that likes to pick easy fights to make yourself look good, but in the end you look very, very small. Please interact with these people with the same kind of respect that you think you deserve.
I've been staying out of the bickering lately...
and I’ve recently been trying to take a cue from Ourday and not take sides, but I have to say that KL is spot on here.
Most people should know that I’m not above making sarcastic, even absurd comments just for fun. There are really just playful jibes. How can anyone take the phrase “douche on the loose” serious? I do, however, have a pet peeve. Hubris. I don’t mean to suggest that I’ve never displayed arrogance myself. I have. I’ve done so enough to know that it’s a really unbecoming quality.
To disagree with an idea is one thing, but this whole grammar police stuff reminds me of those stupid neighborhood organizations that make rules about how long your grass can be and what color mailboxes are acceptable. I’m all for a little smack talk (when it’s about ideas), but to say things in a genuine attempt to demean others is just petty and small.
I’ve never seen completely eye to eye w/ Arnott on basketball related issues. In fact, I’m pretty sure I’ve annoyed him more than a few times. I have, however, always appreciated and respected his unwillingness to censor what’s said on here. He’s made this blog an egalitarian place, where all Bobcats fans can get together and talk about some Goddamn basketball. And sometimes other stuff too. It’s fun here, but fun things always get a little less fun when douche bags start hanging around. So let’s all try to act a little less douche baggy and start talking a little more ball.
+and1
Let’s get back to basketball please. It’s been a long time since I took an English class and quite honestly, I don’t feel like talking about it here.
by Bring Back Primoz on Sep 2, 2010 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Amen.
Let’s declare RoF a demilitarized zone for a while before this devolves into arguments over what everyone was arguing about.
Isn’t hubris a kind of cheese?
And do you have to be egalitarian to post here? I’m not too familiar with the tenets of that particular faith. Do they just worship eagles or is it all Philly sports clubs?
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Sep 2, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The Charlotte GrammarCats!
It’s brilliant. MJ, make it happen.
by Tim Rudisill on Sep 3, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
T-Time
Did you hear anything new?
I win as if im used to it, and i loose as if i like it for a change.
nah, not yet
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by T-TIME, I MEAN DUNK TIME on Sep 5, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
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