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Tyrus Thomas signs with Bobcats, which makes total sense; Dominic McGuire too, which makes far less sense

The Charlotte Bobcats made two personnel moves today that make sense for both the present and future of the franchise, continuing a string of decisions that indicate management has a philosophy, and are sticking to it. That said, they could still do better.

First, Tyrus Thomas is going to be a Bobcat this season, as he and Charlotte agreed to a contract worth $40 million over five years. Second, the Cats signed Dominic McGuire to a one-year deal. I'm beyond pleased with signing Thomas and incredibly frustrated with signing McGuire, and here's why.

(UPDATE: Raymond Felton set to sign with New York Knicks for $7 million per season.)

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Signing Tyrus Thomas represents a cannon shot to the rest of the NBA: You will not score on us. If Thomas starts and Boris Diaw becomes the first man off the bench, the Cats will have four above-average defenders in the starting lineup, both on-ball and help. Pending resolution of the point guard situation, it could be five guys. That's fantastic.

We all know what Thomas brings to the table, from his excellent defense -- both of the highlight reel and subtle varieties -- to his energy running the floor and rebounding. He's also a bit of a gunner, putting up too many shots when he's not particularly skilled at jumpers and his athletic type screams "slasher", or "putback artist". If only he had more David Lee in him than Mike Miller, with his defense he'd be a Josh Smith clone. Instead, he's Josh Smith on defense with nowhere near the offensive sense that J-Smoove brings. That's still an incredibly valuable player to have, especially paired with a similar player like Tyson Chandler, who, though limited on offense, is also a valuable defender. Those two make the paint a serious no-fly zone.

Tyrus is still only 23 years old, so while the odds are he is who he is type-wise, he could still be getting wiser and better. True, if the NBA were a completely free market, this deal could easily end up being an overpay, but that's only if you count the players whose salaries are still suppressed by their rookie contracts. In the free agent marketplace, Thomas is a bargain. In a world in which Drew Gooden gets $32 million over five years, Thomas's contract looks mighty fine to me.

McGuire, on the other hand, is an epic non-scorer. Though he has a reputation as a guy who can do all the little things that make an offense hum except actually put the ball in the basket, while playing top level defense as a 3/4 swingman -- basically, he's Stephen Graham all over again without any of the "offensive upside". I mean, for a guy who supposedly makes his living doing things that make his team better at the expense of his own statistics, his team's weren't better when he was on the floor. In fact, McGuire's +/- was horrific in just about every combination he's ever played.

Here's the thing: I like the idea of signing McGuire's type and often use him as an example of the kind of guy I like, but, in retrospect, I've been thinking of him as an untested 24-year-old it seemed everyone was underestimating. I fear that he's going to get a chance to do more than that when Derrick Brown and Gerald Henderson are already on hand and can likely do what he does with no problem.

Now, maybe Larry Brown turns him into Matt Barnes, but what about using a roster spot and some (all?) of our exception money on Matt Barnes? Or make a play for (alphabetically) Tony Allen, Ronnie Brewer, Rodney Carney, Kyle Korver, Roger Mason, Jr., Anthony Morrow, J.J. Redick, or Craig Smith? All those guys bring something important to the table that the Cats lack (shooting!) or that McGuire, et al, will be expected to do, but they can do it better.

And if the Bobcats only want to sign minimum guys for the back end of the bench because more luxury tax money is too much to swallow, then why aren't we sifting through the untried and untested and hoping something sticks? Instead of McGuire, the proven sub-mediocrity, guys like Patrick Mills, Joe Alexander, and a host of D-League stars should be our targets.

Don't get it twisted: the Bobcats are a much better team today than they were at the start of last season. As an organization, they've made huge strides from the train wreck they were under Sam Vincent. Here's hoping the troubling and puzzling moves Larry Brown, et al, make are minimal and the positive and wondrous moves far outpace the rest.

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Korver reportedly signed with the Bulls today

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
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by WhatAboutBob_cats on Jul 9, 2010 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Yup. The point is that there was no indication that they even tried to get those guys, and it’s disappointing that with so many demonstrably better players available, they went with McGuire.

by David A. Arnott on Jul 9, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

This team is ripe for using the D-League...

and if if we’ve learned one thing during last season’s call-ups, it’s that you can get a decent-to-good rotation player from the D-League if you scout properly and give guys a chance on a couple 10-day cal ups.

by Aisander D on Jul 9, 2010 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Reggie Williams for one

In his time on the Warriors this season he averaged 15 ppg on 49.5% shooting, 4.6 rpg, 36% 3-pointers, 3 apg. Those are FANTASTIC numbers for any rookie. Yes, not only a d-league call up, but a rookie to boot

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Jul 9, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I kept looking for him to sign in fantasy league but I never could find him

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Jul 9, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anthony Morrow to Nets for 3 yr 12 mil

ARE YOU KIDDING ME? We couldn’t afford that?

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Jul 9, 2010 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Gerald Wallace’s third season (age 21) was worse than Alexander’s first (age 22). As I’ve explained before, I have an irrational soft spot for Alexander because he is one guy I think should keep getting minimum offers until he either loses his super-elite sheer athleticism or shows he can play. Dominic McGuire might be better than Alexander this year, but Alexander still has a whiff of untapped potential about him.

by David A. Arnott on Jul 10, 2010 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

I rather enjoy how often David brings him up. It’s like one of those nuggets you see from time to time and it never fails to make me laugh. I hope it continues and for David’s sake, I hope he sees Alexander in a Bobcats uniform.

We all have players we like for irrational reasons. I was convinced Chase Budinger was the perfect fit for the Bobcats and I still am. I’m not sure I’ll ever get over passing on him twice.

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by mjschaefer on Jul 10, 2010 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

See me and Patty Mills

I’m still convinced he can and will be a top 10 PG when someone gives him some minutes.

I have absolutely no basis for this other than seeing him in college and the olympics.

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by James The Aussie on Jul 10, 2010 1:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m on board with Patty Mills.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 10, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

Let’s go to bed guys…get some sleep…
see what happens tomorrow…

by andrewlail76 on Jul 10, 2010 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tyrus will be great in Bobcats team

We are now good at PF and I could see that MJ is now looking on how he can acquire Al Jefferson to answer the need for a big man who can play on the low post and that would require trading Chandler. It’s a win/win trade for both teams.
Hopefully we can get Fisher or Farmar by trading Diaw’s contract..
IF these things happened then I could see that we will meet Miami in the Eastern Finals…

by mjfan on Jul 10, 2010 3:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Most likely scenario

We will have Jefferson and possibly Farmar…
That’s the not shooting for the stars version

by andrewlail76 on Jul 10, 2010 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

BTW

is anyone else worried we havent signed a shooter?

GSO

by MikeTrain on Jul 10, 2010 11:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Not worried enough to sign Larry Hughes again

I am sure MJ and LB have some blockbuster trades coming our way.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Jul 11, 2010 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am, because I don't think LB really wants one

He’s said before that he doesn’t like taking 3’s. He wants to get his points in the paint and at the foul line. And the trend of guys he’s brought in seem to be guys who can crash the boards and play defense. Many good shooters can’t do either.

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by southtunnel on Jul 11, 2010 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

He never really had a shooter in Detroit.

Rip was/is a midrange guy, but they hardly ever relied on the three point shot. Even Sheed took far less than he did with Boston.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
I also blog the Panthers at Real Bits of Panthers

by James The Aussie on Jul 11, 2010 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

We used to have a player similar to Eddie House

His name was Eddie House. He played 13 games here during the 04-05 season and had career highs in minutes per game (23) and points (11.1) during those games.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Jul 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

We already have a shooter his name is DJ. problem is thats all that he is, a shooter.
If we sign or trade for a Real PG then DJ can go back to being a shooter. To me eddie house is just another Dj augustin a guy that only hits open 3s.

by Bcat2.0 on Jul 11, 2010 7:33 PM EDT reply actions  

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