James or Ourday
by mwalterunc on Jul 27, 2010 10:36 PM EDT
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I know you dont want to be specific but just curious if you are hearing any rumblings, paul or otherwise. I cant
believe we would do everything we did to get Dampier's contract and just cut him but Boner seems to post something in the Charlotte Observer every week indicating that?
And on a side note. Does anyone know if there is anywhere that you can purchase the authentic bobcats shorts, blue with stripes. The all white can be found at a lot of places but not the new jerseys from this year.
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i still think we're good the way we are.
not necessarily better than last years squad, but not a whole lot worse.
it could be bad though… we could be the Clippers….
--(insert quote, lyric, or joke here)
We're not good where we are...
We are in the hell-zone known as “Cleveland Paralysis”. That refers to the old Cleveland Cav’s teams that continually had a few good but not great players, always seemed to make the playoffs but dies in the first round, and could never get back into the lottery. They never got better, so eventually laid down and died to get back to heaven, which got them the #1 pick and LBJ. Charlotte already has both feet in the pool of expensive contracts. They can choose to jump all the way in with a couple more good players, or try to blow it all up in the next few years. But MJ cannot afford to let the revenue die, he needs to stir the pot. I think he will go all in by necessity.
+1
We’re stuck in no mans land. Lots of expensive contracts for bench players and they are not expiring.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions
It's very hard to find NBA shorts
I’ve looked everywhere I wanted the white ones a few years back and never found any. Good luck if I happen to see any online I’ll PM you
I found the white ones on eBay. Brand new I think I paid under 50. Don’t remember what eBay store but they are legit. Only place I could find them.
by mwalterunc on Jul 28, 2010 9:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Rick Bonnell is a nice guy, and his op-ed pieces are pretty good... but you can't rely on him for news.
The organization have him in their pocket and he will parrot anything that is fed to him. During the week ‘the trade’ was supposed to go down I was specifically told to ignore anything I heard from Bonnell because the team would be intentionally feeding him misinformation to get lots of smoke out there.
If you remember, it was this same week Bonnell reported on the trade to get Michael Beasley, and a trade to get Ramon Sessions.
Unless something has occurred that I’m not aware of it is not the intention of the Charlotte Bobcats to keep and cut Erick Dampier. If that was their end game, then why wait the 60 days? Why not do it right now? Then you can still go after an Amundson or another veteran before they’re already gone.
In short, everything I’m hearing is that wheels are in motion. I don’t know whether those wheels include a deal for CP3, Melo, or any other player, but I do know that trade discussions are occurring. The only way I see us cutting Dampier is if the Bobcats’ front office grossly misread what the value of the dust chip is across the league, and I haven’t heard anything to support that.
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Bonnell hasn't written about it
because like all journalist, he has a reputation to consider. These reports are too far into the realm of rumor for him to report.
I still don’t understand why the guy gets such a bad rap. No he doesn’t tantalize us w/ every juicy rumor that comes around, but he does report on things that actually happen. And he usually has a pretty sensible take on things.
I view him less as being “in the pocket” of the Bobcats and more that he shows them respect and doesn’t write about any idea that comes along. If they don’t want him to talk about something, he usually would choose not to. That’s how journalist maitain relationships with public figures.
but he does report on things that actually happen. And he usually has a pretty sensible take on things.
Except for the following:
- “The Bobcats will not get Stephen Jackson”
- “The trade for Stephen Jackson was a bad idea”
- “Michael Jordan will not buy the Charlotte Bobcats”
- “The Bobcats are close to a trade for Ramon Sessions”
- “The Bobcats are close to a trade for Michael Beasley”
- etc
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lol
We are the only NBA city where news about our team is broken by national sources before we even get a hint from our local reporter.
Most of the time I think Bonnell’s thumb is up his * rather than his finger being on the pulse.
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lol
I’d do it in a snap. The Observer has great Panthers coverage, they need to lift their game for the Bobcats
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Awsome panther coverage,
Maybe ill go to college and become a writer then ill use you as my sources and me and you will make the observer the best sports coverage around? Ha.
Signtrues are gay
Not really
We are the only NBA city where news about our team is broken by national sources before we even get a hint from our local reporter.
The Clippers didn’t even have a beat reporter following them for most of last season. The LA Times covered them using AP reports. Sad!
Where are those quotes from?
If I’m wrong, I’m wrong, but I don’t remember reading the ones about Jax and Jordan buying the team.
I remember him saying it in the stories when they broke
I tried looking on the website, but they only have archives for Bonnell’s ‘Inside the NBA blog’
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Another thing i noticed from what ive been looking at
Googling and on charlotte obsver so far 4 articals about Diaw, This man really loves diaw.
Signtrues are gay
So they're not actual quotes as much as what you remember?
That’s a lot less compelling my friend.
Seriously, I'm a little let down
Bonnell talked about all the stuff that you “quoted” but did he actually say it? This is why I don’t understand his bad rap. It’s like some of you guys don’t even read what he actually says.
The Observer doesn't keep archives... that's not my fault.
I read what he says, he’s just a terrible sportswriter. Like I said, his op-ed pieces are decent, but he normally does a whole lot of talking without ever saying a thing.
That’s my biggest beef with him. Read something written about the Carolina Panthers by Darin Gantt then stand that up against Rick Bonnell and tell me who’s the better writer.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions
You don't like his writing. I don't have a problem with that.
But to make up a bunch of statements and put them in quotes as if that’s what he actually said is absurd. That makes you the one who’s unreliable. Not Bonnell. You’re misrepresenting him.
You can criticize him for not breaking stories fast enough (but really who cares when there’s at least 10 other places to get the story), but you can’t really say that he reports things that don’t happen.
He may have opined that Jackson won’t be traded or that MJ would not likely get the team, but did he report it like it was the truth???Every sportswriter I know is sometimes wrong in their opinion of what will happen. And who are you to say that the trade talks for Sessions or Beasely never happened? The Bobcats are known for being in trade talks w/ almost every team right now. Their major trade players. I have no trouble believing that they were in talks for both players.
They were direct quotes as I remember them, and you can't disprove them any more than I can prove them.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Don't you see the problem w/ that statement?
Direct quotes aren’t simply remembered. There has to be some record or, as I said, you’re just making unreliable statements. Memory is flawed. You’re right, I can’t prove that Bonnell never made those exact statements, but you represented yourself as knowing for a fact that he did. And you have no sources to cite. You’re misrepresenting yourself and from what I’ve read of Bonnell, you’re probably misrepresenting him too.
It is what it is
You’re on the comment board on a blog… I think you should get over it.
If I was writing an article, or standing in front of a courtroom I would fact check until the cows come home, but regardless of whether I quoted verbatim, or not the sentiment was the same.
He categorically stated at one time or another quotes to the effect of what I wrote above. If you choose to think that’s BS, then fine… but I’m not getting into some stupid semantic argument about the journalistic integrity of Rick Bonnell… I’d rather get back to talking about the Bobcats.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Look man.
I just think it’s ironic and a little hypocritical for you to be talking smack about reporters for supposedly making “false claims.”
I just thought it was a little absurd and wanted to point it out. You can’t back up what you say. Don’t turn that around on me.
Wow...
I think and1droid might REALLY be Bonnell also…
Super strange that he is defending Rick that hard…
James…I am with you and I can recall all of those statements being made.
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is it ironic and hypocritical?
I assume because you are referring to the CP3 talk, and if that’s the case why not say it?
If you want to have a straw man argument, let’s go for it… but all I was responding to was your statement:
but he does report on things that actually happen. And he usually has a pretty sensible take on things.
In which I pointed out that on several occasions he reported on things that didn’t actually happen, he also hasn’t had a ‘sensible’ take on things.
Bonnell is the biggest unabashed pessimist that I have ever seen from a local beat writer. His reportage is fraught with any negative spin on every single Bobcats story out there, I get that it’s his ‘style’ but it never adds much to the local coverage of the team.
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You were kind to leave this off the Bonnell list
“Just a notion: Dampier-for-exception”
Yes I used quotes and yes he said it.
I'll agree that's what Bonnell said
but what are you proving? How is that Bonnell reporting something that didn’t happen. The words JUST A NOTION means that it’s not a report of factual events, yet rather an idea that he’s thinking about.
I’m saying that Bonnell hasn’t really gotten his facts wrong the way James’ made up “quotes” implied that he did.
I'm saying
that he is willing to "report" this insanely stupid ideal but is too aloof or lazy to comment on the CBS report concerning CP3. The arguments supporting Bonnell thus far have centered on him reporting facts not rumor. Then Ourday pointed out that Bonnell’s "facts" are suspect, which I agree with. The particular blog post I am citing shows a willingness on Bonnell’s part to write a rumor or speculation article and also shows a complete lack of any NBA knowledge. I can only hope that Bonnell earns half his paycheck on paper routes and therefore has not had the time or energy to address Bobcat reporting.
James The Aussie,
thanks for continuing to post whatever rumors you may hear! I, along with most others on here I’m sure, are not concerned with whether your quotes are exactly accurate or not. Keep posting and we enjoy how you keep things interesting on this site man.
I'm not referring to the CP3 talk
I’m referring to what you did in this very thread. You made up quotes as if that proved your argument. That’s misleading. It’s ironic because you’re criticizing Bonnell for having bada information yet you yourself were presenting bad information at the time. That’s the irony.
It's only bad information to you
I said what I remembered to be accurate, and that seems to ring true to at least two other people who remember the same thing.
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+1
I recall it too. Bonnell is a moron. I can usually choke my way through his columns but what really sends me over the edge is all of the dumba$$ comments associated to an already mediocre column.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I was referring to the people who comment on Bonnell’s CO page ……. not this site!
And what a handsome man he is!
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
He looks like
Tobias Funke. The worlds first analyst and therapist in one.
On jordan http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/13/1312751/jordan-is-bobcats-last-best-hope.html
I cant find any of the other ones, click on his name and it will show is most popular post ever from back in 2008
also to add others he said that morrision was a draft pick, (read through all of his atricals and you will find many hipocritical ones as he hates this guy then three post down hes the best on the team)
Signtrues are gay
Maybe if he was right more
They would keep his stuff around to prove it. I remember the article about us not ever getting Jax.
He is a bad source but a decent writer in my opinion. Maybe he is just a stooge of the team sending out mixed messages but he is wrong way more than he is right.
by concord cat on Jul 28, 2010 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions
He likes newspaper reporters over internet ones-
Hence why he’ll regurgitate a story about Louis Amundson from the Arizona Gazette before he’ll write about Berger’s CBS report.
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Why though?
I mean im sure it just what his type of style is but lets face it Berger stuff is usually correct (from what i understand) and it sounds like he has Lots of resources. This is the time of year they put the teenagers minor league scores in the sports section just to fill and be able to fold the page, why not post a lil somthing (HUGE lil somthing) about a “rumor”? Makes no sense to me. Unless he knows that the bobcats are feeding him false info now and he is trying to get new sorces or somthing. Idk?
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Forget CP3, let's get his understudy...
Chris Broussard is saying this morning that the Hornets will not trade Paul until they’ve had time to see how this season is going, and try to help him realize the value in staying. He’s been pretty accurate on his various reports. If this is the case we won’t be able to make a deal in our timeframe. It aslo tells me they will want to make deals that help support Paul’s interests in order to keep him. So let’s help that process with 2 trades:
Trade 1: Dampier for Okafor – Gets Mek back doing his 12 and 10 shuffle, which is still much better than what we’ve had since his departure at the 5. The Hornets can immediately wipe $13M off their books or use him in a trade with Denver for Melo.
Trade 2: Nazr and DJ for Collison and Posey – Gets us our starting PG for now and the future, while taking on a declining vet that the Hornets want off the books. They get Nazr to utilize at the 5 plus enjoy his expiring contract, while their local product DJ becomes their back-up 1 to CP3. I know the Hornets don’t want to part with Collison, but if they want to be relieved of Okafor and Posey that’s the price to be paid. They get a reserve PG back so not too much pain.
I think these deals help both teams. The Hornets try to pry away Melo to match with his buddy down south. If that doesn’t work, they just wait till the offseason and clear enough cap room to sign him outright. We have 2 starters who can help the current gang max out our potential and make the Bobcats relevant, at least into the 2nd round.
Who knows what to believe anymore
Broussard has been accurate, but he was also the person who said Paul was going to demand a trade on Monday, and that didn’t happen.
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Agreed that it's impossible to really know the situation
But reports posted today seem to indicate that the Hornets are working to develop a trade with the Nuggets to bring Melo there (this was part of the Hoopsworld report). I actually did not see that until I got back from lunch a moment ago, but it makes too much sense. If they are trying to convince Paul to stay and be happy, that will require changes that put another star or two next to him in the big easy. They could possibly get Melo in a deal with their own players, but why gut the team when you could offer Denver the Damp deal plus a couple of players?
What would denver want from Nola?
peja- no…if they wanted an expiring, they would keep melo
collison- they have billups and lawson already….so i doubt
west- most likely have to be included
okafor- helllll no
thorton- ya i could see that
so west and thorton for melo?? no way
wallace and diaw would be WAYYYY more attractive…if i was the nuggets i would be trying to talk the hornets into doing a deal with the bobcats so we ( the nuggets) could land wallace
They could pull it off... but I can't imagine George Shinn opening the purse strings enough to do it.
The Nuggets know they are caught between a rock and a hard place with Anthony. If they don’t trade him and they know he’s leaving how will the fan base react that they left something, anything on the table and let him nonchalantly walk away in a LeBron-esque fashion?
While I agree it doesn’t really seem that New Orleans have the pieces to make a trade happen, if we take into account what Charlotte would have sent (Wallace, Diaw) then we can get an idea what they might want. Yes, Wallace/Diaw is a better trade, but no way will Anthony sign long term in Charlotte without another star here; so we’re the odd one out of this scenario.
I definitely think this trade would get Carmelo to NOLA: http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2c8gnun
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can u tell me what ur trade is?
i cant open it
and i wasnt saying trade for melo before cp3....
i was saying this:
1) denver wants talent to come back…..wallace is a great player in return
2) i know we wont do that trade, unless we trade for cp3 first….so denver needs to help us out to help themselves….meaning push for the BIG TRADE that u and ourday were talking about
Its a win win for everybody
charlotte gets the players they want in cp3 and melo
denver gets wallace
nola gets rid of TONS of cap
all im saying is if denver is smart, they should make a pitch to nola to make this “3 way trade” so to speak, actually happen
See, I think the only way New Orleans will be convinced to trade Paul is if they don’t have any other out. ’
I don’t believe they WANT to trade him, but that they have to in order to get a new owner and start the rebuilding process.
The smartest move for New Orleans is to try and get Carmelo Anthony. That solves all of their problems because high salary or not, a Paul and Melo let Hornets team is worth paying the money for and investors know that.
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Hornets get: Carmelo Anthony, Ty Lawson
Nuggets get: Darren Collison, David West, Julian Wright, Marcus Thornton, Darius Songaila
It’s a lot of NOLA to give up, but it’s a chicken and the egg situation. They don’t get a superstar Paul pitches a fit, Denver don’t trade Melo he leaves… but more pressing is to convince CP3 that New Orleans can get better.
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question about that trade
this is kind of making it a rebuilding phase for the nuggets…if we gave them wallace instead, they wouldnt take much of a set back at all and would still be a top team
nuggets would have a huge gaping hole at SF if they did that trade with Nola…so my question is, do u think the nuggets want to still try and win now or start to rebuild?
Which is why my trade suggestion makes sense
We deal NO Damp for Okafor, ridding them of that huge contract, then deal Nazr & DJ for Collison and Posey. That takes big bucks off their hands and allows them to handle the massive contracts in the future. Denver could still get essentially the same group of players, or take back the Damp contract and extras after 60 days.
I think
1) I just dont know who to beilve, some say this and some say that, to me it makes more sense that he is gunna get traded as for what other people pointed out a. While trade talks continure paul hasnt stepped in and say “stop im staying” b. in a interview the asked if chris wil still get traded he reponded “ill do whats best for the team” c. This all makes sense as to be a smokesreen “failed one” to get more for cp3
2) NO WONT trade collison, thats the future of the team right there, how can they trust paul to “stay” next year? they cant they dont want to be left hanging wet in the cold come next year.
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I heard that interview
He wasn’t saying anything definitive and was speaking more out of oppinion if anything. And where did you hear about the Hornets going after Melo? I can bet money that that’s not going to happen.
Hoopsworld had an article about it this morning.
They have really been dead on this offseason.
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I had a dream we got Chris Paul
…and I’m not a proponent of any trade for him in which Okafor comes back. If that helps anyone feel better about the situation.
What a source.
When did your dream say it was going to happen? Can you take a nap at lunch and inquire about the availability of Melo?
Just teasing ya brother.
wait i saw this movie
was leonardo dicaprio in that dream??
OMG!! LOL
I seriously just asked my 8 ball if the Bobcats will get CP3 and it said you can rely on it!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Paul linked to New Jersey?
Here is an article from bayoubuzz – http://www.bayoubuzz.com/sports/nfl/31887-louisiana-sports-new-orleans-hornets-chris-paul-trade-talk—saints-sign-charles-brown-
This comment is mentioned near the end: “Paul can’t be traded to Aug. 15, though an agreement in principle could be made sooner.”
The only reason I could think of that requires waiting until August 15th is to trade a newly drafted player. Perhaps the Hornets are wanting Derrick Favors? I’m entirely speculating here but just wondered if anyone knew any other reason why August 15th would be mentioned.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 8:41 PM EDT reply actions
Interesting....
Here’s what I found out about rookie trades….
A draft rookie may not be traded until 30 days following the date on which his contract is signed. Other players remain subject to the rule providing that they may not be traded before the later of (i) three months following the signing of the contract or (ii) December 15.
When did Favors sign his rookie deal??
Yeah....
Just saw that he signed his rookie deal on July 15th and has to wait 30 days before he can be traded.
Did the BayouBuzz just unintentionally leak something??
Possibly
I confirmed what you said. It is 30 days after they sign so August 15th is a date specific to Favors ……….
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
August 15th
Is also Jordan’s Dogs birthday? Uh ohh i think that aritcal leaked the bobcats are the front runners!
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do they have the assets though to pick up chris paul. who would they have to add into the trade to get paul. i just dont see them having enough monetarily to pick him up. Nola is not going to want to take on harris with collison, and they would have to send robin lopez and lots of other assets to get paul. if you add up the deal with paul and okafor for _________. what are the possibilities?
on the trade machine, even with favors, they would have to trade every player from last years roster to make this happen
Not true
Due to NO’s trade exceptions and the fact that NJ is under the cap, they don’t have to take back equal salaries. The trade below would work if Favors is included on August 15th. Actually, they could take away one of these players and throw in cash and/or draft picks too.
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=28csjmn
Not far-fetched at all ………….. and Harris isn’t required.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
wow, that is a hell of a salary dump actually. all my thinking goes back to george shinn though. i know it isnt immediate but we can offer more relief
Nets leader in the clubhouse
The scary thing is this deal saves them roughly 13 million, so it cancels out Dampier.
And would you rather get Lopez, Williams, and Favors or Nazr, DJ, and Hendo? I’d take the NJ deal.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
4 PFs?
Lopez ©, Williams (SF), Favors (PF). I know they already have West but stockpiling young talent is never a bad idea. Helps facilitate other trades and they’re cheap.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
LOL
I wasn’t trying to copyright Lopez. He’s a Center!
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't tnow what they would do with three 1s...
But I’d celebrate for one 3…
CP3
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
And with Wallace, we would have two 3s!
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Math is hard
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Every national columnist says that Favors is the only untouchable asset the Nets have
Regardless, even his contract wont let them get to the $25 million needed to take Okafor and Paul, especially without throwing in Devin Harris, which makes no sense if you know anything about the Hornets and Darren Collison.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I can be
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Also, I don't know about that website
They can’t even format a picture correctly on the front page so I don’t know about their fact finding.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe Bonnell is doing web development for them
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
happens a lot...
media is guilty of it too
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Not sure about Nets willingness to deal Favors
But if they thought it could land them CP3 and Melo, they might do it.
Plus, due to NO’s trade exceptions and NJ being under the cap, they only need to take about 13 million for CP3 and Okafor, not 25 million.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
They may have the tools to get CP3, but no way Melo too unless the wait for him to hit free agency
Honestly, New Jersey would be worse than they are already if they need to trade Lopez and Favors to get Paul.
Do they have anyone else of value?
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
I was assuming they waited one year for Melo
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
What I'm getting at is...
The thing that keeps striking me is that neither NJ or Orlando really have a need at PG.
Jersey needs a solid 2 or a 3, and Orlando needs a 4.
By both getting a PG they need to give up pieces that they are needing already, plus likely a draft pick.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
They would be cutting off their nose to spite their face…
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
Orlando has never made sense to me. That doesn’t fit for either team.
And I agree that this makes NJ worse too, at least for a year. But they have a billionaire Russian owner who is trying to make a big splash.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions
For all that billionaire Russian's money, Avery Johnson's bravado and all Jay-Z's cache..
They only managed to get Travis Outlaw and Jordan Farmar.
Too many eggs were put in the 2010 basket… it will take them a long time to build a good team.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
those weren’t the ruskies eggs though. im not sure he would have made the same sacrafices. maybe….but not likely
Indeed... but he'll still have to live with them
Like NY will if they can’t get someone else to team with Stoudemire.
If CP3 stays in NOLA, Melo re-upps with Denver and Tony Parker is a happy Spur then it’s going to take 5 years for them to recover due to the lack of prospects, picks etc.
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by James Dator on Jul 28, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
i think they have a chance to build from the ground up though with favors lopez and harris. it might take a few lottery picks. maybe harrison barnes in a few years to fill in at the 3?
CJ Leslie > Harrison Barnes
Just for funsies…
The first one was a joke
Hence the “Just for funsies”
Barnes is better than Leslie. I might love my Pack, but I’m not delusional.
They're in a league of their own
Now if only they’d go out and get Rosie O’Donnel to be their starting PF…
+1
They’re better off being patient and building with the pieces they have. But that doesn’t mean they will ……..
Fans never fall asleep at our games, because they're afraid they might get hit by a pass
by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It would get leaked Befor the 15th if thats the case
And No way they can keep it tht quite
Signtrues are gay
why should we believe this source?
is this website very credible? maybe the ppl who write this or on bonnel’s level haha
somebody please tell me this is most likely being pulled outta left field
Don't know
My sources sent me this link … :)
Honestly, I have no idea whether it is credible or not. I’ve never read bayoubuzz before.
Fans never fall asleep at our games, because they're afraid they might get hit by a pass
by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
You and everyone else...
but my take is that Ourday is done with any info…
James…he may share more…
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions
This doesn't make sense
How does it make any sense for New Jersey to trade away their franchise center in Lopez and portentially the next Stoudemire in Favors for Paul and be stuck with Paul and Lopez, two expensive starting PG’s. Only way NJ is getting Paul is through a three team trade with us.
It doesn't...
I’m hoping that is the point
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Because NJ could recruit Melo. Brooklyn is close to Manhattan.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Who would they have to trade to get melo?
And im guessing they wont have the money to sign him in 11 FA
Signtrues are gay
but if you look at it. no way is denver gonna let melo walk. the only possibility is sign and trade. who will nj send next year?
They have no choice. He can be a free agent
The Decision: Version 2
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
i like that you are playing the devils advocate. it makes you think..and doubt. i guess we can only hope
I'm just introducing ideas
I hope we get Paul of course. Just saying NJ is a MAJOR PLAYER in this too. From what I’m hearing, it’s likely down to Charlotte and NJ.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions
i agree. in my mind though, depending what happens in the next few months, i think denver will try to get what they can for melo
So I take it caramel is off of his honeymoon and has shown no interest in the $65mil extension?
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he's waiting on the CP3 thing to play out
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
So anyone feeling a date?
I love coming here and reading the updates…but I’m about ready for this to all be over with
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I know
I just love facts so much more than speculation
Today has been really quiet on the blogs…
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Very true
I want more news about Jax working out and losing weight…on Diop “trying” to learn th game of basketball
Hendo and his jump shots and how they are…DJ working out and getting his head right to be a leader…
anything like this…but the news hides all of that…
by andrewlail76 on Jul 28, 2010 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It's July
Football hasn’t even started yet. Basketball couldn’t be further from everyone’s minds.
Unless you’re like me (and probably most of you) and think that basketball is just a vastly superior game to football. Plus I pull for the Vikings so I know they’re just going to rip my heart out anyway.
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I hear you....
I’m a Raider fan….hoping to go to some Panther games though and maybe convert. I just moved to Charlotte.
I feel like...
MJ will throw the bus at NO to land Paul and won’t stop until he gets him. NJ may have some parts, but I think MJ will do whatever it takes.
On a weird sidenote...
The Blazers are actually thinking about cutting Patty Mills….
If they’re insane enough to do it, we need to be ALL over that
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
Interesting indeed
Maybe he kept getting his shots blocked in scrimmages by Greg Oden’s ………. arm!
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by Bring Back Primoz on Jul 28, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
The stats speak for themselves
Most analysts predicted he would be a bonafide lock for a roster spot, but unless they can move Andre Miller or Jerryd Bayless he could be on his way out.
FYI, these were his summer league per 36 averages:
17.2 ppg, 0.418 FG%, 0.367 3P%, 5.6 apg, 4.6 rpg
Just so we can get a good comparison here were Gerald Henderson’s numbers:
17.6 ppg, 0.383 FG%, 0.286 3P%, 3.3 apg, 2.7 rpg
Mills isn’t a project like Jawai, he’s ready now and I think he’s better than Jerryd Bayless, but dont tell the Blazers tha
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Jul 29, 2010 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh no! James must have been attacked!
His last word was cut short. Quick someone call 911! I think people from the Trailblazers didn’t want that information to get out! There’s no other explanation.
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
Patty Mills would be a steal.
He’s a little bit of an enigma/psuedo-PG/combo guard, but if you need any verification about his ability to play against the top NBA guys then just youtube the Australia/U.S. Olympic game in 2008. He was incredible, shook of our beloved Chris Paul and did a pretty solid job running the team against a staunch American D.
Indeed
- At 0:35 he schools Jason Kidd on a crossover
- At 1:35 blows by Deron Williams in transition
- From 3:20 on he out rebounds a PF (Can’t tell who it is) and then hits a three
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
Mills must become JOB 1 if he's cut
A bargain to add to the stable and compete for the PG job. That would allow us to focus on swapping Diaw or the dust chip for a starting 5. Still not my ideal scenario by any means, but it’s better than stale coffee, which is what we’re sitting on now. I just have no confidence in DJ becoming a quality starter in this league. Livingston will help us but he can’t go 100% for 100% of the time we need in a starter.
I don't know if Mills can evolve into a starter, but he's too talented to not get picked up
I think we have to, and if Mills is cut and we happen to keep Jawai then knowing his personality he will do ANYTHING to play with Jawai.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Jul 29, 2010 10:21 AM EDT up reply actions
This could be really interesting...
Cut him and we’ll pick him up same day…and sign Jawai…
Worst we could do is get them, they not fit/work out, and we turn around and cut him…
Best case…2 pretty good role players
by andrewlail76 on Jul 29, 2010 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Also putting up good numbers in the Worlds warm up
Has had 16, 15 and 13 Points in 3 games, and 1, 3 and 2 assists respectively.
Games against China, Slovenia and Iran. Playing about 15 – 20 minutes a game.
I think you pick him up as he is talented, and has had experience running a team (starting point guard for the Australian National Team), but he duplicates DJ as well → Small quick guard who is more of a scoring point guard.
Could be a nice insurance if the price of a good centre is going to be DJ.
No gosh darnit!
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
by Ben Swanson on Jul 29, 2010 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey you shut the front door!
Lint licker!
Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr
by Ben Swanson on Jul 29, 2010 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions
Man grow up!
Your provocative language has got to stop. I don’t even know what lint tastes like.
This childishness is beneath me!
I'm getting mighty sick and tired of all of this.
I’m mad as H-E-double-hockey-sticks!
Grow the fudge up people.
I mean jeez-o Crow, it’s just a blog. Can’t we all just get along for Pete’s sake?
I’m sorry, but you pushed me too far.
My sources can beat up your sources
by Ourdaywillcome on Jul 29, 2010 11:26 AM EDT up reply actions
We can get along...
But who is this Pete guy?
by andrewlail76 on Jul 29, 2010 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Talent wise, yes
But he’ll probably want too much money. Also, we need a starting center, not a guy who’ll play 60 games for us and is better suited for a back up role
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Too many for my liking.
Plus, Shaq wants a 2 year deal. I just don’t see the value.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James Dator on Jul 29, 2010 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions
if like we dont make a trade we still need a C and i mean with Shaq we get a lil star power or if we make a trade just for a PG
Exactly...
lil star power…but my concern is how many games will he be good for and how much will he cost?
by andrewlail76 on Jul 29, 2010 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
thts the only downside
i think i saw the hawks offered him a 2 year vet min. but im not sure ill go look again but hopefully if Nazr can step up and play like he did last year he can come in for Shaq when he needs a rest. maybe we should go get T-Mac too and go all out vet. haha
shaq has destroyed....
the last 2 teams he’s been on
slowed down the suns and clogged the lane for the cavs…il pass
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