'The trade' as I heard it

Thanks for sharing the information you had with me.

BCP are a really good, passionate group of fans. If the roles were reversed and someone over their got all of our hopes up, I can see how some of the RoF crew may be upset.

We’re all fans, regardless of the place we prefer to post.

Thank you for letting me reveal my side in due time.

My gut tells me that maybe George Shinn has a prospective buyer who insisted on Chris Paul being the centerpiece of the franchise?

I really don’t know.

The last information I received indicated that it was all still being worked on. Most if not all of the Bobcats personel in Las Vegas are on the way home so my guess is that if anything were to actually happen, the discussions will be picked up again on Monday morning. Based on other information and also on comments Larry Brown made to the media, the team still has a lot of work and changes yet to come before training camp starts.

Miller is very solid, and if Oden never starts playing pro ball, he’s gone after one season. Done and done.

Yeah, I’m thinking maybe the Nuggets could then try and trade Dampier for a SG to compliment Carmelo… maybe get Ben Gordon?

Gordon makes a lot more sense on Denver than Charlotte.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3akl6jj

I hate Varajeo’s contract and I hate Mo Williams’ game….

And on that cheery note, I go to bed

I hate Varajeo’s contract and I hate Mo Williams’ game….

And on that cheery note, I go to bed

+1

Does Monty know he’s not going to CLT with CP3?

Charlotte is small a family town. For a young millionaire that’s not quite the same thing as New York City or even South Beach.

Dampier can’t be packaged, not Paul {-:

We package Dampier with Diop after 60 days (or in separate trades) to help the cap big time. No way we just cut Dampier.

I think the Cats are in the unenviable position of being a .500 team with no salary cap flexibility. The best answer (if you can’t land the big one) is to be patient and continue making moves that give you options.

I’m not sure that patience is one of MJ’s and LB’s best qualities so it might be a long and exciting ride for us. For everything I like about this team and what’s been done in the last few years to get better, we do have way too many long term dead weight contracts. Those can limit your options for years.

If MJ thought he had a legitimate shot at Paul, the Dallas trade was a calculated risk. But if it falls through, we’re worse off than we were before the trade. I think the biggest mistake NBA teams make is getting over the cap on long contracts to keep marginal teams together. For instance, I don’t think the future is very bright for Atlanta. They’ll be paying $60 million in 2013 for Joe Johnson, Marvin Williams, Josh Smith, and Zaza Pachulia.

We’re still up in the air if he’ll make it through this season let alone a few more. Everyone was worried about him coming back or taking the Philly FO job.
My gut tells me that he’s done after this season regardless and we’re left looking for a new coach next offseason……Jeff Van Gundy anyone, or maybe Mike Brown???

Incoming:

Dampier: He is a corpse with a contract, won’t play a game in Charlotte. Will have to wait and see what the end result of a future trade might be. Worst case: we drop 13 million from the payroll.

Najera: Not as upset about him as others. 2 years, 5.4 million left which is close to a wash for Ajinca. And he will get minutes because he hustles and rebounds, far more productive than Ajinca would have been.

Carroll: Not thrilled here. Personally, I like him. I remember when we signed him from the D-League in Year One and he bombed away at the Coliseum. However, his contract his hideous. We had to take Diop’s hideous contract to deal him and now we have both hideous contracts. We have 32 million tied up in these guys over the next 3 years. (I just threw up in my mouth a little just typing that.)

Livingston: Seems like a decent gamble, not sure we didn’t overpay him a little though.

McGuire: I’ve been following him since his AAU days and think he has lots of potential ….. who am I kidding? I don’t know who the hell he is.

Outgoing:

Chandler: Not thrilled here but will reserve judgment until we see what the Dampier contract lands us. He has an expiring contract so we could have dealt him at the break or just let it roll off the books next year. And when healthy, he is a productive player.

Ajinca: Just glad we can finally bury this guy. And to think we could have ended up with Lopez and Chalmers and now we have Augustin and Najera.

Felton: I have a feeling we’re going to miss him more than most people think. I understand why we let him go and agree with the decision but …… he was a leader on this team, he was reliable, and he was tough as nails

Weber says the Hornets have held off on any free agent signings or trades until they name a general manager.

This definitely could account for the halt on the trade on Wednesday

In this article → http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5388816

“Although there have been numerous reports linking Bower’s demise to a purported willingness to trade Paul — which Bower strongly disputes — sources close to the situation say that Hornets made the change with other motivations.”

Maybe Bower was playing ball with us and that’s why the deal died. I certainly hope it’s the other way around though.

We got 60 days to decide what to do with Dampier. And if it doesn’t work out LB has been good at finding late pickups and trades. No need to rush. Worse case scenario we have 2 PGs with potential and can bring in another slew of unlikely big men if needed.

@STEIN_LINE_HQ San Antonio’s Demps, still front-office candidate in PHX as well, has had two extended meetings w/Hornets officials since first interview about 3 hours ago

If they hold on to him, they are still not a playoff team and CP3 leaves when the contract is up.

right now I say we need him

or getting rid of something in return Diop. N.O. wouldn’t take Diop.

Jordan, can you provide the link into your trade? Not sure where you were headed but I’m guessing Okur could be had since they have Jefferson now. Sounds like he is expecting to be back by the season opener.

probably get a package of Douglas, Chandler, and Curry from N.Y. Great minds think alike.

I bet the Knicks would do anything to get Paul and Okafor is not the worst fit in the world for Amare either. Good thinking.

I was wondering about Bynum earlier. I’ve heard they would deal him and I wouldn’t mind taking a chance on him in a Bobcats uniform.

I think the Lawson/Nene is the most plausible. I think one team says “No” in the other 2 examples.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=288zow6

I like #2 with Knicks Love #3 with Nene and Lawson and the lakers deal just makes sick.

Lakers Trade: Wouldn’t want to do anything to help them get even better and not sure I want Bynum with his history of injury over the last couple of years.
Knicks Trade: Gives us flexibilty cap wise after Fat Curry’s contract comes of the books, and you could evaluate Chandler and Douglas over the year and either keep them or trade them for other assets. Maybe trade Fat Curry before the trade deadline.
Denver Trade: Hands down the best one. Love it.

they could sign and trade for Melo in the offseason….

Paul/Kobe/Melo/Gasol/Okafor

was that NJ was going to make Tyrus and offer and Tyrus wanted the front load.

I like your numbers better. Another RoF with secret sources (-:

Hands down the best trade I’ve seen is Lawson and Nene for Dampier (with Paul going to Denver).

Touche’ on the Jax, Tyrus line.

but it appeared I was very much in the minority. I thought he’d fit well with us. He dishes, he scores inside, he can hit the three ball, not bad on defense. The only things that bother me are fg % (but hey, if LB can get Raymond improve his shot selection, why not Arenas?) and injuries (47 games last 3 years). Other than that, I like it. I think Charlotte would be a decent fit for him too. DC is a big violent city. Charlotte is a smaller, more quiet city. Maybe with a less wild city, he’d be more controlled for a most of the time. Gerald would probably be a good influence on him as well. Hopefully with his recent transgression he understands that one more eff up and he’d be blackballed forever in the league so he’d tone down his stupidity/ignorance.

Like I posted earlier, I think Washington (Arenas) and Philadelphia (Brand) are the only two teams who would consider taking on Diop. Seems like Arenas is a pretty high risk though. Injuries, felonies, and 4 years/80 million left on his contract.

And with Arenas, Tyrus, and Jack, we would be loaded with head cases. LB might be able to control them but if he leaves and MJ hires another Sam Vincent, the crime rate in Charlotte may double.

But who knows how things unravel once he’s gone.

Arenas has been injured and had legal issues. If he doesn’t work out, that contract sinks the Bobcats for 4 years. It is a huge gamble. I think there are equal options that aren’t as much of a gamble. To make this trade somewhat favorable for the Bobcats, the Wizards would also have to take Matt Carroll and give us a 1st round draft pick.

Another Gilbert Arenas supporter on the site finally. The trade machine doesn’t account for Diop’s player option which he will surely opt in on, but if we don’t get Paul, and all you’re giving up is Diop and Boris? You got to make that deal.

That Dampier contract is looking like a bacon chalupa to them right now.

Bonnell just makes it sound way more impossible than it might actually be

Don’t really need his position unless we move Matt Carroll and it still would push henderson back on the bench

Ahhhh… offseason non-sports, sports

NO
I’ll say that the deal is stalled
Look at the media
Another blog here says nothing will be done before a GM is in place
Dead deal?
I still say on hold
Just my .02

yet intriguing at the same time. heres why:

1) getting Okafor on Orlando is just weird. it kills their system at worst, and gives them a hell of a bench at best.
2) Gortat + Charlotte = EWWWWW. his contract (combined with the player he is) makes him a YMCA player better than Diop IMO. hes certainly not worth his contract, and—dare i say—a tad bit on the frail side of life
3) this trade would help us out greatly. its one of those trades that sneak up on you and catches you by surprise
4) i wonder how Nelson would do in LBs system. hit or miss

If we can’t get CP3 why should we help another team get him?? Like we are not getting killed by the Magic already..

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but getting him COULD be a problem if new ownership wants him. i think we could have gotten him last year WITH Jax

At the rim: 61.2%
Less than 10 feet: 43.9%
10-15 feet: 38.7%
16-23 feet: 37%
3 pointers: 33.8%

So your saying trade for Ellis for our PG??

is like a tween girl that wasnt allowed to go to the Jonas Brothers concert.

so all deals with Toronto are pretty much off

See i have never seen Ellis play that is why asked if he could play PG? It says that he played SG last yr.

Bigger pipe dream:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2d8jyov

I swear, we should have a contest to see who can make the most ridiculous trade get approved by the trade machine and grade how many + wins it adds in.