What Bobcats fans learned from Game 1
The one thing I probably dislike most about the modern NBA is obvious mysticism shared in lieu of observable facts. For instance, Tim Legler was on Brian Kenny's radio show last night, and -- I'm paraphrasing, since the segment's not uploaded as of this writing -- Legler went on and on about how the Suns lost to the Blazers in Game 1 of their series in large part because, and I'm not making this up, Phoenix lacked mental intensity. Now, maybe Legler doesn't think it's a big deal that Robin Lopez is out with injury and the Suns have actually been throwing Jarron Collins out there. Maybe he thought they looked listless on the court. Either of those insights would be fine, because they're observable facts. However, note that Legler instead chose the mystical, judgment of character, route, because that's what "experts" do with the NBA. They assign morality to the proceedings where there is no hard reason to do so.
I'm picking on Legler because it's the most recent example I have, but he's not alone. It happens all the time in the NBA and sports coverage in general. And I think I was a little guilty of it in my judgment of our opponents before this series. Here's what I think Game 1 taught us about the Magic and the Bobcats in light of some mystical "observations" getting thrown around.
1 -- Here's a long passage of what I wrote in my Game 1 Preview:
I know it seems like Orlando got a little bit better this year, and it's entirely possible, even likely, that letting Hedo Turkoglu go and trading for Vince Carter was the most correct thing to do (I love me some Courtney Lee, but I also love me some Ryan Anderson). However, last year, Hedo was what made them a special team, not just an excellent team. With Hedo, Lee, and Nelson out there splitting ballhandling duties, they presented an unconventional matchup issue for every team that faced them. Don't get me wrong: I'd be happy to have Vinsanity, Matt Barnes, Mickael Pietrus, and J.J. Redick as my team's wing corps, but I'd trade that in a heartbeat for 2009 Hedo, 2010 Barnes, 2010 Pietrus, and 2010 Redick. The Cats know who's going to be bringing the ball up. They know who's going to be covering which guys. They know how they're going to defend the Magic offense. There will be no harrowing help-or-don't-help decisions when Hedo drives the lane. Orlando may have simplified what they do to their own benefit, but it made them easier to defend for elite defenses, too.
The most surprising thing in the game was seeing Jameer Nelson's lane penetration. That was exactly what Hedo and his long strides did so well at important moments of games, but I failed to imagine that Nelson would be so effective at getting past the Cats' perimeter defense. One-In Four-Out works really well when the one guy inside can make a lot of his own offense in one-on-one situations, because that forces the defense to make a two-way choice: double the post and leave a shooter open, or take your chances with the post player beating his man on the block.
It's tough enough having to defend those two choices when the offense walks it up and dumps it to the low post, but it's even tougher to defend three choices, which happens when the ballhandler gets by his man and into the lane. When that happens, the defense has to choose whether to help on the dribbler, help on the big man, stay home and take their chances with the dribbler getting to the rim -- it's just a nightmare when four guys can shoot threes, the lone big can't be defended by one man on the block, and the dribbler can get into the lane.
Like I said, in Game 1, Nelson did everything I loved about Turkoglu's game last year. Ideally, the best way to defend the Magic is to find a couple guys who can deal with Howard themselves in the post (Tyson Chandler and Theo Ratliff?), and to not let the dribbler get easy penetration. Defense can't stop everything, but it can limit the offense to two avenues of success instead of three.
2 -- The Bobcats have plenty of playoff experience. Please don't pretend otherwise. The most important adjustment is getting used to the hype and attention that comes with the playoffs; the games themselves aren't all that different. Raymond Felton was the only starter who hadn't been through it before, and Larry Hughes, Tyrus Thomas, and Tyson Chandler have all done it, too. In fact, Felton and Augustin, the two homegrown talents, were the only rotation guys who were in the Big Show for the first time. Ascribing early-game struggles to inexperience is grasping for explanation.
3 -- Respect Stan Van Gundy. The man had a championship-caliber team taken away from him in Miami, and now he's coaching a great team in Orlando with very different personnel. Bill Simmons said something about Larry Brown having a chance to out-coach SVG, then Mike Woodson, and I'm pretty sure even Hawks fans would agree that Woodson isn't in Brown's coaching class, but SVG deserves to be included in the same group as the other elite coaches in the NBA. Maybe he's behind Jackson, Popovich, and Sloan, but at this point, there's no way you'd put Rivers, D'Antoni, or Carlisle clearly ahead of him. Whatever adjustments the Cats make, you can be sure he'll notice them and adjust his team to counter.
4 -- Channeling my inner Donald Rumsfeld, Stephen Jackson is a known unknown. We know that we don't know how he'll react to his knee injury, which we know will bother him, even if we don't know how much his game will be tangibly affected. Here's hoping it turns out completely positively, with a reduction in contested shots, spurred on by newfound caution.
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My spurious observations:
Both teams played hard!
The Magic lack a killer instinct (they need Gilbert Arenas arsenal).
Neither team had sufficient mental fortitude!
The Bobcats clawed back (the Magic are bringing a pet groomer to address this)
If it comes down to a coaches battle of wits, SVG has the better sense of humor.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on Apr 20, 2010 8:56 AM EDT reply actions
The Magic played lights out the first half
and came back down to earth in the 2nd. At no point in time during that game did I really feel like the Cats were at their best, even when they came back. Magic fans don’t understand this, but I’m very pleased with the performance of the team and am confident in the next game. After getting the early playoff jitters out (Raymond’s defense especially) the Cats, and Gerald, showed the world why they are ready to compete. Magic fans are still in denial for the most part, but time cures all.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Apr 20, 2010 8:59 AM EDT reply actions
Oh, Magic fans do understand
this is a chain cage match between possibly the two best defensive teams in the Association. Charlotte’s perimeter defense against Dwight Howard and the 4 Sharpshooters. Dwight Howard against the 3 Amigos playing center for the Cats. Old School Larry Brown versus Stats King Stan VanGundy. Orlando’s three point shooters against Charlottes slashers.
I expect 3 or more hard fought matches that will be entertaining, heart rendering and contentious. The bottom line will be the number of weapons available at each coaches disposal, which may play poorly for the Cats.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on Apr 20, 2010 9:15 AM EDT up reply actions
It's good to see that some Orlando fans still have some common sense.
Lewis, Redick, and Pietrus all shot well above their averages, especially from the 3 point line. I expect them to come back down to the earth. Not saying that that with the combined better play of Vince Carter and Dwight Howard wouldn’t still be enough for a Magic win, but it certainly won’t be leading to 22 point leads every game for the Cats to have to try to battle back from either.
by Charlotte Bobcat on Apr 20, 2010 10:18 AM EDT up reply actions
Vince Carter and Jason Williams were way below there averages on 3-pointers, but the real concern for Charlotte should be defending Howard. SVG has seen what LB is doing and will have a counter on Wednesday. Expect Dwight to be back to his normal double-double form now that he and Patrick Ewing know the defensive strategy.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on Apr 20, 2010 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Oh yes... I'm the great pretender....
Regarding point 2:
The Charlotte Bobcats have individual players with playoff experience and it showed in game one.
BUT – so did our lack of said experience.
It manifested in a big way during the first half. You are correct that Raymond Felton lacks playoff chops. But don’t pretend that inexperience didn’t hurt the team. Ray controls our entire offense. He’s the quarterback out there. During the first half – particularly in the early going – his nerves affected all aspects of his game and because of the importance of his role on the court, it also affected the rest of the squad. It was an intangible, but very observable, factor during the first half. As the game went on he became more comfortable and the team rallied. I won’t go so far as to say that “as Felton goes, so go the Bobcats,” but it was a negative impact factor that shoudln’t be an issue in game 2. I believe we’ll see a very different first quarter out of our guys in game 2.
During the early part of the season you coined a phrase that you repeatedly used when recapping the Bobcats performance. “Good Felton, Bad Felton.” It was a regular part of your post-game articles and you attributed many a Cats loss at least in part to the appearance of Bad Felton. The first game was a Bad Felton first half and a Good Felton second half. It was caused by his playoff jitters and inexperience and had a good deal to do with our shaky start. I won’t pretend otherwise.
by Ourdaywillcome on Apr 20, 2010 10:19 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah i don't agree with points 1 through 3 at all really -- or the intro.
1- Jameer Nelson was out of his effing head in the 1st half. Period. That’s it. He was 10-12 and was hitting horse shots out there. I know the feeling, that was always part of my game too: streaky shooting. When you’re on it doesn’t matter what the defense does. He came back to reality after the ridiculous halftime buzzer beater. If Jameer Nelson plays like that every game the Magic will win the NBA championship.
2- The Bobcats were ABSOLUTELY suffering from a lack of experience jitters to start with. Raymond had to get his head right. Couple that with Nelson’s unconsciousness, and it was the worst possible beginning. Felton looked like a deer in headlights and that will not be the case tomorrow.
3- Stan Van Gundy is a big, fat, lucky, Ron Jeremy look alike. His last name got him both the ORL and MIA gigs. As David stated: both teams have/had championship caliber players. If anything Van Stan just hinders the teams: hence Pat Riley canning his lame ass and going on to win it all and Shaq publicly calling him a joke. Van Stan almost cost his team game 1 despite the stellar first half and early 3rd quarter 22 point lead. Orlando’s rotation and clock management was piss poor as Charlotte inched their way back to make a game out of it. LB is the man and Van Stan will be lucky to make it out of this series with his job secure.
Intro- Yes, Tim Legler is a douche. No one can deny that. But there is something to be said for the whole mental toughness/ intensity argument. Did you not hear LB’s sideline speech that fueled the ’Cats comeback? “Go out there and punch them in the nose. Do NOT accept what is happening…”
Winning is absolutely about going out there and being tougher than your opponent – willing your self to success. Those that refuse to be denied usually are not denied.
Most of this I won’t address, but I want you to consider: How do you know what someone’s thinking? How do you measure someone’s “mental intensity”? Sorry, but you simply can’t. You can observe someone’s actions, but you can’t observe what they’re thinking unless they tell you.
Winning is absolutely about going out there and being tougher than your opponent – willing your self to success. Those that refuse to be denied usually are not denied.
Extreme example: I want to be an NBA player. I can work my ass off 24/7/365. Not gonna happen. 5’9" dudes, as a general rule, don’t play in the NBA, for reasons beyond their control. My desire won’t cancel out the past 20-odd years of being unable to play basketball.
Less extreme example: Kevin Garnett makes a big show of being “intense” and “wanting it more” than anyone else. Why, then, is he considered a pathetic parody of himself now, compared to two years ago? Because his body is betraying him and he can’t get it done the same way on the court. He wants it, and it probably makes him a better player for it, but however much he “wills himself to success” will show up in his measurable performance.
by David A. Arnott on Apr 20, 2010 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
"you can't observe what they're thinking unless they tell you."
But a person can “tell you” in ways that don’t involve them speaking. If you’ve ever spent a week at an acting class you’d know exactly what I’m talking about. Or if you prefer, watch boxers as the referee is reviewing the rules. Those glare-downs and psych-outs are completely nonverbal but each knows exactly what the other is thinking and doing.
People convey their emotions with smiles, tears, and yes, deer in the headlights looks. You can see defeat and depression in a quick scan of the bench of any team that’s losing big in the last minutes of any game.
Or if you prefer a more abstract example, let’s say you’re the moderator of a bulletin board or blogsite. One of the more difficult facets of the job is trying to discern whether a post was meant to be funny, snarky, or if the person that wrote it was truly pissed-off at the time. Why? Because you have to rely on the written word – what they are “telling you” in the post. You can’t see their faces and body language so often time you just have to make your best guess.
As to your example of wanting to be an NBA baller at 5’9", you’re right. As a general rule guys like you don’t play pro ball. On those rare occasions when someone makes it to the pros and is a comparative midget, how do they do it? They practice more, play harder, and yes, want it more than you apparently do. Desire won’t cancel out being unable to play basketball, but it will play a part in being the best baller your natural talents will allow. Some people are gifted with both natural affinity AND the desire to develop it. It’s a rare thing and it’s no crime to admit you don’t possess either or both of those qualities.
I’ve taught children for over 20 seasons how to be the best possible soccer players they can. Not all are allstars. Not all are destined for college scholarships. But every single one of them that puts forth the effort and shows the desire becomes good enough to be competitive at some level of team play. Virtually 100% become better than they ever thought they could. “Wanting it” is a far larger factor in the process of success and winning than you’re giving it credit for. As ballers like Garnett age some make up for their diminishing speed by learning how to position themselves better for higher percentage shots. They spend more time studying their opponents “tells” so they can find some advantage they can exploit. Some do none of this and their usefullness to a team diminishes accordingly. But once again, desire and discipline are key factors.
Desire isn’t the only factor. My fubar back dictates that I have to be in a wheelchair and I’ll never run on a soccer field again no matter how much I want it. It was one hell of a bitter pill to swallow. But in my last soccer game I was 50 years old and playing for charity against a team made up referees and college freshmen from the Duke and Wake Forest soccer teams. It was “coaches against the kids” time. The old farts won big because we were smarter, more experienced, and treated it seriously. We were also more stubborn and determined than the youth that didn’t think they could possibly lose. Bottom line – we wanted it more.
by Ourdaywillcome on Apr 20, 2010 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
People convey their emotions with smiles, tears, and yes, deer in the headlights looks.
It may be semantics, but those are observable things people do, and we infer meaning from them. However, if you see me cry, it still does not mean you know what I’m feeling, or my desires. In the sports arena, it’s fallacious to say that because a player appears to not be trying as hard as he possibly can that he must not want to win as much as someone else. Dwight Howard is a top three MVP candidate. Clearly, he didn’t get to where he did by lollygagging and being apathetic. You’ll be hard pressed to find documentation of his burning desire to win a championship because A)he’s such a physical specimen, the general public thinks it’s easy for him, and B)he doesn’t go out of his way to show people he wants it more than anyone else. He just plays basketball better than 99.9% of the world.
by David A. Arnott on Apr 20, 2010 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is why I like Dwight Howard.....if he did all the posturing that the corpse of Kevin Garnett does...
I would shoot myself. By the way, I’m currently crying, laughing, and lollygagging.
Blogging at Ridiculous Upside, where my terrible writing meets people's eyes.
Extreme example: I want to be an NBA player. I can work my ass off 24/7/365. Not gonna happen. 5’9" dudes, as a general rule, don’t play in the NBA, for reasons beyond their control. My desire won’t cancel out the past 20-odd years of being unable to play basketball.
But what makes those rare specimen that are 5’9" but can still dunk like crazy? I’ve read articles on how phenomenal athletes are not physically any different than a normal person. But rather their brain waves are literally more focused and channeled – where a normal person’s brain waives during physical activity (like jumping, punching in karate) are graphed the result is a gradual rise and fall, top performers produce a sudden spike and drop which produces better results.
Phenomenal athletes and dominant competitors are much the same. It’s not so much a greater physical ability, but rather a greater mental strength & determination. The results are very observable – they’re measured in victory.
JJ is one of, if not the, best conditioned player in the Association
VC went down early a few weeks ago and JJ played 46.5 minutes without a break and never broke stride. He has worked his ass off the last two years to be a better conditioned athelete and a better player. Why? Because he is intelligent and realized that without the effort, his NBA career would end with his first contract. Because of that hard work he stands to sign a $20 million contract this summer.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on Apr 20, 2010 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
mm hmm
JJ played one game of 46 and a half minutes. Gerald Wallace averages 41 minutes per game, Jackson at 38.5. Why does JJ’s playing of 46 minutes in one game of the 82 make him in contention for best conditioned player? I would put lots of people over JJ Redick. It’s not like nba players condition poorly.
http://sonicsgate.org/movie/index.php?hd=0
F*** Clay Bennett. And Charlotte thinks George Shinn is a douchebag.
Nobody said G-Force isn't well conditioned
Conditioning is not something that can be easily discerned in the flow of the game. The point he is making comes from things people within the Magic organization have said. They all agree he’s the best conditioned player on that team based on practice/game habits.
Reddick has a lot of unfair criticisms that stem from his college career and first year or 2 in the league. The knock was that he wasn’t athletic enough, couldn’t create off the dribble, and couldn’t play defense. These are just recycled arguments that aren’t necessarily valid anymore. He may not be a monster athlete, but he’s much stronger and much quicker than he was when he came in the league. He’s aggressive off the dribble (a new development this year because of increased confidence from actually playing), and he’s an adequate perimeter defender. He certainly stuck it to Ray Allen last year.
46 minutes without a break is not the point.
6 mile runs almost every day, 4 hours in the gym every day, that’s the dedication and effort that has taken a soft white kid into one of the best conditioned players in the league. And in the off season he steps it up.
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on Apr 20, 2010 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/art_garcia/04/09/magic.redick/?ls=iref:nbahpt1
"There are two ways to argue with a woman, and neither of them work."; Carlos Boozer
I'll tell ya about the Magic It'll free your soul but it's like trying to tell a stranger 'bout rock n roll
The only way to stop LeBron is Smith and Wesson, but even that's a double team.
by NC Magic Fan on Apr 20, 2010 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions
legler
Is that Tim Legler in the background?
by bugjackblue on Apr 21, 2010 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I think you guys are missing a big Fact when talking about Feltons “bad” first half. Jamer Had a great half and made some shots he will not usualy make but I saw mabey 2 of those that were Feltons fault. If you watch the Bobcats at all you know Deffensivly they always switch picks on the perimeter. When you switch a pick it becomes the other mans resposibility. Naz looked very slow and got beat multiple times off pick and roll. Diaw was caught in the same situation and as expected got beat. In my opinion when a team is creating mismatches through pick and Roll the coach needs to change philosophy. Normally the Bobcats do a good job against the pick and roll because they have good defenders and athletic bigs the problem was Naz is not one of those guys. I think Naz should be a last resort in this series for the fact is he cant guard anyone for Orlando. Chandler, Theo, and Tyrus should get mins before Naz. Hopefully ajustments will be made. I dont think that Nelson will be are bigest problem going forward in the series.
Save Nazr for the Celtics
He doesn’t match up well against Howard. We have plenty of other guys who fit the bill better.
by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Apr 20, 2010 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Go Bobcats. Steal Game 2!
In Manu, we trust.
by day_late_friend on Apr 21, 2010 5:28 AM EDT reply actions

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