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Charlotte Bobcats vs. San Antonio Spurs preview -- Game 7

The Big Picture: An appreciation of Tim Duncan begins with his basic statistical record. The man was a guaranteed 22/12 per game for the first eight seasons of his career, and has since "declined" to 18/10, mainly because he's playing fewer minutes, in order to be ready for the playoffs.

Then, you can talk about his defense, and how he was a guaranteed 2 blocks per game for ten years, and, again, has "declined" to 1.5 blocks per game, mainly due to fewer minutes. And how, beyond that, he was the linchpin of a top-rated defense year after year, and his coach gave him all the credit in the world for directing traffic and remaining a constant force, even while the cast of characters around him changed.

But to my mind, Duncan's greatest accomplishment is not that he's won four titles, going 4-0 in the Finals; it's that in the post-1979 NBA (Larry, Magic, et cetera), he is one of two Hall of Famers to lead his team to a championship without the aid of at least an All Star caliber sidekick. The list of teams to win championships with as little as one HOFer and no additional All Stars:

Hakeem - 1994

Duncan - 2003

Pistons (no HOFers) - 2004

And that's it. You could even make a case that in 1999, David Robinson wasn't quite an All Star sidekick, which would make Duncan the only player in the modern era to lead his team to multiple titles without that kind of help. All that's to say that Duncan may not have been as individually dominant as Shaquille O'Neal was in his prime, or quite as versatile as Kevin Garnett or Dirk Nowitzki, but he was certainly better than all of them at at least one important facet of the game while being nearly as good at everything else, for a ridiculously long period of time.

Knowing what we know happened since then, if the league started over in 2000, and held a dispersal draft, and you had the number one pick, I wouldn't blame you for picking Kobe Bryant, Shaq, or a fifteen-year-old LeBron James, but I'd probably go with Tim Duncan.

Musical Interlude: Canibus -- "Second Round K.O."


Star-divide

Key to Victory: Hardly anybody thinks of the Spurs as the vanguard of positional creativity and basketball freedom, but Greg Popovich and company have long resisted labels in favor of the role construct. Consider that Duncan has always been listed as a "forward", despite playing alongside shorter, more perimeter-oriented guys at "center" like Matt Bonner. Or that Manu Ginobili isn't really a "small forward", "shooting guard", or "point guard" so much as he's a dude who shoots when he shoots, passes when he passes, and slashes when he slashes. Or that DeJuan Blair isn't a "forward" or "center" so much as he's a monster rebounder trapped in a fire hydrant body.

The Bobcats are going to have trouble with Duncan. That's not difficult to predict. What is tough to predict is where the Cats might try to press an advantage on the Spurs. Tony Parker and George Hill can attack D.J. Augustin in myriad ways, but at the same time, I'm not sure either of them can really keep up with this new model of D.J., either. Ginobili plays a very similar role to Stephen Jackson, and I expect both badasses to go at it hard, and early, but if Jax's shots are falling, I don't see a strategic advantage to be gained there.

What I hope to see is Gerald Wallace abusing Richard Jefferson and making him curl up into the fetal position (metaphorically). Just because Tyrus Thomas is around for 20-30 minutes doesn't mean that Wallace should lower the swag and stop flying for rebounds, because two tornadoes on the floor is almost always better than one. Jefferson supposedly stepped up his workouts and shooting exercises this offseason, and through five games, he's taken a massive step forward. That said, it's just five games. Make him work, Gerald.

I also hope to see Boris Diaw actually putting his versatility to work and forcing Blair to defend in places and ways he's uncomfortable defending, and then I hope to see Thomas come in and change the whole paradigm. Of course, Tiago Splitter frightens me because if he lives up to his legend, he's Blake Griffin combined with Chris Webber, so yeah, I've got an overactive imagination.

Detail That May Interest .08% of You: The guy arrested at the Bobcats game on suspicion of murdering someone in New York was captured "in one of the VIP areas".

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Interesting choice of song

Considering it is home to arguably the gayest (sounding) battle line of all time. I won’t quote it here, but anyone who has heard this song knows exactly what I’m talking about.

Btw, I smell an upset tonight. GO CATS!

Thank you, San Francisco!

by Newsinz on Nov 8, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions  

That one line aside, greatest diss song of all time

Including Hit ‘Em Up. It’s a shame Canibus could never put it all together. However, any hip hop fan should listen to Rip the Jacker. Stoup + Canibus = the win.

by drapht00 on Nov 8, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Common's diss on Ice Cube is a classic, too.

Canibus’ biggest issue, in my opinion, is that he had no standards with the tracks he picked for his songs (assuming that he even had a choice). It seemed like he would rap over anything, and I think a lot of his best verses were overshadowed by very weak instrumentals. Buckingham Palace is my favorite example: vicious lyrics as always, but that sample could’ve easily been given to Duffy or Taylor Swift, and no one would ever questioned them singing over it.

Thank you, San Francisco!

by Newsinz on Nov 8, 2010 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Ice Cube has the best diss song OF ALL TIME

No Vaseline. He takes down all of NWA in one fell swoop

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Nov 8, 2010 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

BDP - "The Bridge is Over"

Yet another.

Shame there are no good beefs anymore. Hip hop is so watered down.

by drapht00 on Nov 8, 2010 3:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Another..

Classic by the blast master/teacher himself KRS-1! I still remember when he attacked those scrubs PM Dawn at a show after the lead rapper of that group, said in the media why was KRS called the teacher of what?lol! Funny as hell!

by jah p on Nov 8, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

YES!!!

No Vaseline was awesome! Cube back in his prime was prolific mc! Not too many people would even go against him! He murdered every track he was on!

by jah p on Nov 8, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions  

canibus' producer was wyclef jean, that's why the beats/backgrounds were horrible

"It's a bad day to have a bad day" - Coach John Fox of the Carolina Panthers

by D.W.G. on Nov 8, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Only on Can-I-Bus

2000 BC was not Wyclef. Some solid tracks on there, but some crap as well. Not until he hooked up with Stoupe did he figure it out.

by drapht00 on Nov 8, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Ether?

God’s son across the belly, you know you lost already.

by L'O on Nov 8, 2010 5:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Canibus was a beast

I don’t know the verse you’re talking about, but Canibus served LL something serious with this one.
 “Watch me rip the tat from your arm, kick you in the groin, stick you for your vanguard award in front of your mom, your first, second and third born. Make your wife get on the horn call Minister Farrakhan, so he can persuade me to squash it, I’ll say naw, he started it, he forgot what a hardcore artist is…..”

by Mr Goodlove on Nov 8, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions  

“but you ain’t got the skills to eat a n****’s @$$ like me.”

by drapht00 on Nov 8, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions  

ugh!

I completely forgot he said that, and I never liked part………

by Mr Goodlove on Nov 8, 2010 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard...

That song last year that Canibus had out that he came at Em, but I don’t think Em ever responded to it..

by jah p on Nov 8, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Last time we played the Spurs

Boris went off grabbing 11 rebounds and shooting 11-14 for 26 points. Will he do something similar? Doubt it, but I’m interested to see how we play regardless. Richard Jefferson is playing amazing this year. 20 ppg on 65% fg. Here’s to Crash shutting him down!

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Nov 8, 2010 4:19 PM EST reply actions  

nothing relevant to add except that

i posted that stat about hofers earlier this year when we were arguing about whether or not lebron tarnished his legacy :-D

so yay me!

as much as i love the cats, i give them about a 17% chance of winning tonight… RJ and Ginobili are playing out of their minds so far this season. assume Jack and Wallace shut those two down and its pretty much the Duncan/Blair/Parker/Hill show… aka a 20 point loss for the Cats.

by adamcawa on Nov 8, 2010 4:53 PM EST reply actions  

espn's accuscore computer doohickey is giving us 31% chance

So you’re telling me there’s a chance?!

Lemonade was a popular drink and it still is,
I get more props and stunts than Bruce Willis
- Guru, of Gangstarr

by Ben Swanson on Nov 8, 2010 4:58 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Beat me to it.

Thank you, San Francisco!

by Newsinz on Nov 8, 2010 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

whats up felllllllaaassss

I’m feelin the preview. Can’t wait for the game let’s get it goin bobs

did this dude just did this

by OldschoolBlue on Nov 8, 2010 5:01 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Dj will have his hands full tonight

 Parker and Hill are tough point guards and they’ll put the pressure on him. Jackson and Wallace give up alot of three’s. Not good when you play against the Spurs especially with Manu outside and Parker’s ability to drive and kick out. Splitter and Blair will hit the boards hard, can we slow them up. Jackson and co. need a good start and of course to limit those turnovers.

by Mr Goodlove on Nov 8, 2010 5:50 PM EST reply actions  

in at least wallace's defense

he’s on the losing end of threes at least twice a game where he clearly has good position on the guy and the shots fall anyway

by adamcawa on Nov 8, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions  

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