Bobcats Beat Cavaliers 91-88
The Bobcats stunned the Cavaliers at Quicken Loans Arena Sunday night, 91-88. (BOX SCORE)
From my seat in the second deck behind one of the baskets, the second half played out as well as the Cats could have hoped, essentially even, with slight leads each quarter. The Cavs had a brief opportunity to gain ground in the fourth quarter when Shaquille O'Neal was matched up on Boris Diaw, but they couldn't capitalize. Instead, the Cats got clutch shots from Raymond Felton and Ronald Murray.
In the end, there was one key stat that trumped all others: LeBron James went to the line for two free throws the entire game, so all the credit in the world to Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson. When that happens, the Cavs are vulnerable, and the Bobcats took full advantage.
Celebrate, everyone. That's back to back wins on the road over Eastern Conference powers.
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I know many of you don't want to hear this but...
This team just wouldn’t be the same without RayRay. I can’t think of anyone else on the team that I want to have the ball in their hands at the end of a game. 17 points, 6 assists, 3 steals. The guys getting it done.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Yes he has played well.
No disagreement there.
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Except he's awful at the end of the game.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 3, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Feltons made plenty of clutch shots/layups this season
Saturday vs Miami-4th quarter- 66%FG
Today vs cavs 4th quarter-50FG%
Wednesdau vs raptors 4th quarter-100%FG
He is 1/3 of the reasons we win games and you need to recognize that.
Yeah?
He’s carrying a third of the load? Please.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 2:08 AM EST up reply actions
Stats dont lie
Here is some stats I know you’ll try to Deny. Felton is shooting a better FG% than both Wallace and Jackson A better 3pt FG% than both Wallace and Jackson better FT% more Steals per game than both more Assist than both and less turnovers than both Wallace and Jackson. Those are real stats and they dont lie. Felton is doing way more than his part. Felton has been huge in the clutch. But Ignore the Facts if you want and we know you will
But he still isn't a $9mil+ PG
At least I hope he isn’t one for our team come next year…
by andrewlail76 on Jan 4, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
What does that have to do with being 33% of the "reasons we win games?"
Last I checked, there are at least five players on the court at all times, and you don’t see many 48-minute performances these days.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
For the record:
There have been 16.3 win shares earned by Bobcats players this year. Felton is an impressive second in that category (higher than he’s ever been.) However, he’s at second with just 2.8 win shares, which would mean he’s been 17% of the “reasons we’ve won,” or half of what MM claimed he was.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
You are just trying to get picky about MM’s wording, because you have nothing left to criticize Felton
You know what he meant… that Jack, Wallace and Felton are the pillars of this team. Just accept that the guy is playing really well. What do you gain by constantly tearing him down?
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About the same thing you gain by pretending he's never done anything that's not All-NBA level on the court.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks for proving my point
With an example of something I never said.
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Winshare is a useful stat
but blind adherence to it is kind of silly.
You look like you’re just being petty here Proc
I really think all he comes here for is to criticize people
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
How does hitting clutch shots to win the game equal playing awful?
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by southtunnel on Jan 4, 2010 10:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Because one game does not a skillset make.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
You are flat out lying now
To say last night was the only time Feltons hit game winning shots is a flat out lie. You are just so bitter that a UNC product is this team’s PG that you are willing to stretch the facts at all costs.
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LOL...
A “game-winning shot.” Jackson was the one who sealed the game.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
What if Acie Law would have made that layup instead of getting blocked?
Does his value go up?
by andrewlail76 on Jan 4, 2010 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
No. Why would it?
We weren’t discussing value.
But IF he hit that layup and won the game, then I wouldn’t say he played "awful at the end of the game" like Procton did about Felton… That’s absurd.
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Reading is FUNdamental.
I used the present-tense ‘is’ to indicate that regardless of his magical five-point fourth quarter last night and clutcheriffic 1-2 performance from the FT line, he’s absolutely miserable in end-game situations on a regular basis..
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
You jump on everybody else's back when they don't say every little thing exactly right!
Even though everyone else knows exactly what they meant. Please have the decency to play by your own rules. Not justification. What you said was not true.
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What I said is precisely true.
One game doesn’t change four-plus years of failure.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Except that's not what you said
In response to a comment about THIS game, you said “he’s awful at the end of the game”
I have no problem listening to your explanation… Provided you don’t jump all over my back when do it.
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But your comment WASN'T about THIS game
I can’t think of anyone else on the team that I want to have the ball in their hands at the end of a game
“A game” implies any game. Just as “he is awful” does. Had you said “the end of this game” or had I said “he was awful,” you’d have a case. Check out a lesson on verb tenses.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
Reading is FUNdamental
Would you like to add the rest of my comment to that blockquote? Or does it hurt your case to take things in context?
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by southtunnel on Jan 5, 2010 9:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
No, it really doesn't matter.
Either you were talking about any game, or your command of grammar is awful.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 5, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
You sure are a balsy 22 year old
I try to see everyone’s stance…and have even attempted to defend you in some cases…
I guess it isn’t worth my time anymore.
Let’s talk basketall and basketball opinions…not criticize grammar.
I meant the part about talking basketball and not criticizing grammar. Id have to disagree about the balsy though.
Oh, I was getting ready to criticize your grammar, damn.
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He's a huge ass.
But it is kind of funny.
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It's impossible to talk about basketball if you can't properly get your opinion across because you don't have a grasp of the written English language.
Particularly when you get pissy when someone calls you out on your afforementioned issue.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 6, 2010 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Basketball...
Just talk basketball, and if the grammar is wrong, then oh well. We’ll try to read it anyway. Stick to basketball, not grammar or cross examination.
Use them lawyerin’ skills in class…not here
:-)
You should sue for defamation fo character.
He has libeled you for the last time!
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Acie Law vs. Raymond Felton
Apples vs. Oranges
Got to mention the improvement in turnovers and free throws
We lead Miami and Cleveland in both of these categories. If we keep that up we’ll win a lot of games.
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What happened David?
This is the first time in 25 post-game threads that you haven’t mentioned the rookies not getting enough playing time. Are you going soft?
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I believe the term is...
Why beat a dead horse?
LB obviously isn’t reading this board and neither is Jordan…so why keep bringing up the obvious
by andrewlail76 on Jan 3, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions
Actually
Jordan is reading. On his blackberry, while playing golf in Cancun and plotting to trade for Theo Ratliff.
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That horse was long dead before David stopped beating it.
He was probably just too tired from his crazy weekend in Ohio and forgot to mention it.
A few observations
We got us a real basketball team!
The Bobcats paid their dues hanging around game after game only to lose on the road every single time in the waning minutes. Now it appears they have learned how to win them. This doesn’t mean we’re going to become a team with a winning road record, but it does mean that a road trip doesn’t mean a string of auto-losses. I’ve been dreading the end of this month when we take our big Western Conference road trip because it was shaping up to be the 10 days where the Cats crashed and burned. I felt like we’d be spending the month of February trying to claw back into contention. But the way the Bobcats have played their past 3 games gives me reason to hope that we might just be able to take enough games during that trek to stay solidly in contention. I can’t help but join in the chorus of redundancy. We just won both games of a back-to-back ON THE ROAD and did it against a pair of teams with better records than ours. The Bobcats quietly gained a rep for being tough to beat at Time Warner. Now, at least for the present time, the Felines will have to be taken more seriously when we come into town for a visit.
A quick personal note here, just in case he’s reading this:
Uhm, Tyson? Take your time. Don’t step back on the court a single moment before you are 100% healthy. We don’t want you reinjuring yourself again dude. Yeah, that’s the ticket. It’s a struggle getting by without you, but we’re willing to make the sacrifice where your health is concerned. In fact, my wife, eh, Morgan Fairchild, was just saying the same thing last night.
I do have one very BIG question though. Call it a survey without an official poll. How many of y’all think it’s time to believe we can rely somewhat on our bench? Conversely, how many think the recent improved presence of DIop, Murray, and Augustin is just a fortunate and very temporary turning of fortunes?
There are still some big “ifs” staring us in the face as we approach the midpoint of the season, but this has been one impressive week. We still don’t know what’s going to happen in our power forward position and we’d be fools to think we’re going to be in contention for much of anything unless we pick up a solid player there. The elephant in the room still remains what we’re going to do if Jax, Crash, or Felton get injured and can’t play for multiple games. We’re getting by just fine without Chandler, but we can’t handle an injury to our newly developed core. We’re getting some solid minutes off the bench at present, but we have no real 6th man option and the resurgence of Nazr could end at any time. In fact the longer we are without Chandler the greater the risk that Nazr is going to run out of gas.
But enough pessimism. This team has never been more competitive, confident, or powerful. Even the best teams in the league are beginning to look at Charlotte with new respect. If they weren’t wary of us before, our finish tonight in Cleveland is going to attract some attention. The good of this is that we are finally getting some recognition. The bad is, we’re quickly losing the element of surprise. The tougher teams are going to start seeing us coming and preparing/scouting instead of taking the “W” for granted. Most of the nasty teams are in the Western Conference and that will help. Now if we can just figure out a way to be competitive with the Celtics!
Well, we have one night off and then we face a Chicago team that realistically, we should be able to take down. Go get ’em Cats!
Good call on the Chandler bit Ourday
Some could accuse me of being a Chandler apologist, but I have noticed that our first significant road wins came w/ Chandler sitting on the bench.
Perhaps a coincidence, but a motivated Nazr and Diop seem to be effective enough.
Felton could be MVP and that Hornets fan Procto would still find something to complain about. Great win guys and congrats on beating the Cavs for the first time in ten tries!!
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
It is only because he's from UNC
It’s obvious the way he get’s all defensive about it.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
If Felton was the MVP...
It’d be because a secret cabal of tarheel bankers conspired to make the refs and opposing players go easy on him, thereby enhancing his stats. It’s all a plot for Bob Johnson to sell tickets to tarheel fanboys. The moon landing was a hoax as well!!!!
I believe that’s a direct quote from Procton’s manifesto, which can be read at:
suckmydickyoubabybluefanboy.com
He can have his stats "enhanced" all he wants.
He’s less than half as valuable as Gerald Wallace to his own team! Let’s try for Bobcats MVP first.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
Classic!
The guy can’t even take a joke without arbitrarily trashing Felton.
Procton eats, drinks, and breathes Felton trash.
Must suck to hate half of your team
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
I don't hate anybody on the team.
I just get tired of people treating Felton like Chis Paul or Steve Nash because he puts up 14-6.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 9:06 PM EST up reply actions
I was just commenting that he's doing a lot for this team
Doesn’t mean he’s anything like Chis Paul or Steve Nash. But you guys rip me for saying anything remotely positive about the guy.
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Waaahhh
No ones ever compared Felton to Paul or Nash on this blog. Must suck for you to be tired of imaginary discussions. How many of these imaginary arguments are you gonna have before you realize theres no one there? Just because Bobcat fans support felton and stick up for him doesnt mean we think hes chris paul. Your arguments are always the same. You dont use logic, only tactics. Arguing with you is like arguing with a drunk person about religion.
You can still get get on board and support him. Its not too late. When we are in the playoffs and hes making clutch shots, youre not going to want to be left out.
LOL...
Will those clutch shots be like his 1-2 at the line? Anyway, there are no clutch shots made by a team on the losing end of 30-point blowouts to the Celtics.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 4, 2010 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Got some links for you Procto
http://www.82games.com/0809/CSORT11.HTM
2008-2009-Production per 48 minutes clutch time-Raymond Felton with 26.3 points, more than any other Bobcat, more than Kevin Martin, Garnett, Iverson, Ray Allen, Tmac, Stephen Jackson, Stoudamire, RJ, Rudy Gay, Dwight Howard, Sean Marion, Emeka Okafor, and the list goes on.
http://www.82games.com/CSORT11.HTM
2007-2008-Production per 48 minutes clutch time-Raymond Felton with 33.9 points, again more than any other Bobcat, Al Jefferson, Vince Carter, Gay, RJ, Brandon Roy, Tmac, Joe Johnson, Timmmay, Crawford, Ray Allen, Iverson, J-RIch, and the list goes on.
http://www.82games.com/gamewinningshots.htm
Also, game winning shots-03 thru 09
Felton has 7, tied for 30th with Baron Davis and Brandon Roy, ahead of Ginobili, Capn Jack, and many more.
Also, check out Flip Murray’s game winning shots-4 for 4!
2009-10
http://www.82games.com/0910/09CHA2.HTM
This season, per 48 minutes of “clutch” time, Felton is averaging 33.6 PPG, with a FG% of .543. He’s been nothing short of spectacular this season WRT clutch play.
What are you doing displaying this blasphemy!
You know real numbers can’t be used when talking about a UNC product!
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He's also got a whopping 1.3 A:TO ratio.
Count me unimpressed. He’s not a shooting guard. You’ll also note he’s shot 29% in those game-winning shots, well behind Davis, Roy, and many more. Just because you refuse to pass the ball in crunch time doesn’t mean you’re a clutch player.
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by MichaelProcton on Jan 5, 2010 6:51 PM EST up reply actions
players who shot a lesser % game winning shots than felton
Im unimpressed with all of the following players because they shoot a bad% clutch time therefore they suck.
Kobe Bryant
Joe Johnson
Dwayne Wade
Jamal Crawford
Tracy Mcgrady
Kevin Garnett
Chauncy Billups
Manu Ginobili
Stephen Jackson
Rasheed Wallace
Also, where do you see he has a 1 to 3 assist/turnover ratio because I dont see anywhere that shows that.

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