Two Links: Update on the Iverson Gambit, and Sean May Talks About Felton

by David A. Arnott on Sep 5, 2009 11:32 AM EDT

Allen Iverson plays waiting game with Grizzlies -- Memphis Commercial Appeal
The Griz expected Iverson, 34, to decide before the weekend. But the free-agent guard apparently needs more time even though the Grizzlies have expressed strong interest in him since July.

The gambit appears to have failed. Unless he's prepared to sit out the start of the season, I can't imagine Iverson has any leverage left.

May: Felton unsigned "ridiculous'' -- Charlotte Observer, Rick Bonnell Blog
A source familiar with the situation projected that a deal in the range of $7 million a season would breach this gap. If Felton doesn’t sign a long-term deal, he’d likely play next season on a one-year qualifying offer of $5.5 million, then become an unrestricted free agent.

I don't know who the source is, but if Felton's camp is hyping $7 million as the compromise price, then bravo. If it's someone in the Bobcats' front office floating that out there, with the implication of a multi-year deal, then if I'm Felton I jump on that money. The only question would be whether or not I'd rather go to a team where I'd be the unquestioned starting PG. (Previously on Rufus on Fire: The Raymond Felton Question)

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If were willing to pay Felton 5.5 mil, and the franchise wants to cut cost while also having a team with playoff potential...

Letting Felton lose and signing AI whos by far the better player, at a lesser cost, makes me wonder why I’m a Bobcats fan

"When we won the league championship, all the married guys on the club had to thank their wives for putting up with all the stress and strain all season. I had to thank all the single broads in New York"
Joe Namath

by Civardi on Sep 5, 2009 4:26 PM EDT reply actions

Im sure Detroit thought Iverson was a 'far better player' than Chauncey Billups too...

Do you think they’d take a ‘do-over’ if they could? My bet is yes.

by James Dator on Sep 7, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions

So we are comparing Felton to Billups? Lets not…

by miltonwall on Sep 7, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions

No, merely stating that people are far too ready to keep talking about Iverson like the perenial all-star he was five years ago, not the player he is now.

by James Dator on Sep 8, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions

Well...um

When did May become an Expert to decide that Charlotte was “ridiculous” to not have signed Felton yet.

I also can’t believe tha Iverson isn’t signed on somewhere. You’ll see Charlotte’s move right after A.I. makes his move.

I’d almost guarantee it.

by andrewlail76 on Sep 6, 2009 12:00 AM EDT reply actions

My favorite part...

Was how he noted all the reasons that Felton would be a great signing: hard worker, plays every night, good presence in the locker room. I was surprised May could even recognize such qualities given his proclivity to avoiding them.

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by MichaelProcton on Sep 7, 2009 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions

Easy for May to spot his polar opposite…

by andrewlail76 on Sep 8, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions

Sean May can go **** himself

We let his pathetic ass blow a rookie contract on Moon Pies and Twinkies… lemme guess Sean, the Bobcats were ‘ridiculous’ for letting you go too?

I’m a Tar Heel Fan and will fondly remember his times on the ’05 time, but as a pro he can crawl into a corner.

by James Dator on Sep 7, 2009 12:14 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

That pair…
That draft year id NOT follow LB’s rule and is the perfect example of it.
LB says that you have a team need, but if there is a greater talent out there, you almost have to draft the greater talent and go from there.

Names after our Felton pick include C. Frye, Ike Diogu, and Andrew Bynum
Names after our May pick inclue David Lee, Nate Robinson, Danny Granger, Gerald Green, and Luther Head.

Is hindsight 20/20…of course it is…but just think if we would have taken Andrew Bynum and Nate Robinson

by andrewlail76 on Sep 7, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions

Yea hindsight is 20/20...

A well known better option would have been to trade both our picks up and pick Chris Paul.

Can you really see Bynum flourishing in Charlotte? I personally don’t. He would have had to compete with Okafor for the center position, or worse played alongside him (we’ve tried that before w/ Meka and it doesn’t work). Also, success is much easier to come by when you share the court w/ Kobe Bryant and Lamar Odom. I’m not saying he wouldn’t be a good player in Charlotte, but my guess is that instead of pining away for a guy like Bynum, if we actually had him, he’d just be another scapegoat for the fact that we have a bad team.

by and1droid on Sep 7, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions

Well...

We might have see Okafor gone before a contract extension was signed…but again…all in the past…

by andrewlail76 on Sep 7, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions

To be sure.

Why would they even consider keeping a career double-double player over a guy who’s put up a mind-blowing 9-6 over the course of his career?

By the way: Frye and Dioguy suck and neither those two nor Bynum would have been considered at all in the top five. Green and Head are another pair who haven’t done much of anything in the league. I’d have taken Paul a hundred times out of ten.

My first argument against socialized healthcare? Yunel Escobar's grill.

by MichaelProcton on Sep 7, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions

And at the time

Nobody knew that David Lee was anything more than a fringe prospect. Nate Robinson was and still is an extremely undersized shooting guard. And Granger seemed like an unnecessary luxury with Gerald Wallace holding down the small forward position.

The problem with that draft wasn’t who the Bobcats picked. The problem was that they overvalued their picks and failed to realize how quickly the talent dropped off after Paul and Williams. Of course that’s all in hindsight, and very few teams are satisfied with the players they drafted that year.

by ClipCat on Sep 8, 2009 10:15 AM EDT up reply actions

Eh...

There were just as many people who thought Granger was going to be a better long-term prospect as there were people who thought May could stay healthy. Given the difference in their games, I absolutely think Granger and Wallace could play together with ease.

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by MichaelProcton on Sep 8, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions