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Around SBN: Kentucky Basketball: Where the Wildcats Stand as of Today

Where do the Bobcats go from here?


So, my shock as dissaproval of the Okafor trade are still there... however, I am now ready to start looking towards the future. I want to look at where the Bobcats stand today, what we still need to do and what can be realistically be achieved before the first tip-off in the 2009-10 season.

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The Lineup

PG: Felton/Augustin

SG: Bell/Henderson

SF: Wallace/Radmanovich/Brown

PF: Diaw/Brown/Ajinca

C: Chandler/Diop/Mohammed/Ajinca

What does this lineup excel at?: Speed. If the Chandler move was truly a basketball move by coach Brown expect alot of this team's drive to be fueled by the success of the Denver Nuggets last season. The Nuggets we are not, but this is going to be a very fast athletic lineup especially when Henderson in on court for Bell.

What does this lineup lack?: Outside shooting and reliable inside play. Yes, we have VladRad off the bench who can hit some outside shots, but the Bobcats are definately not to be feared from the outside. Out of our starters, Bell is the only really shooter who can hit an open three and cannot really hit the shots when contested. We also need another big man to backup Diaw at PF, and we still have an MLE available. However, alot of the better big men are gone this FA period.

What did we gain this summer?: We're tougher defensively than we were at the end of the season. Henderson should lessen the defensive drop off at the 2 position and hopefully become a shut down defender with a big offensive upside. We also gained time this is a team that will benifit from having more time to gel and build chemistry. Towards the end of the season we really saw great strides in chemistry, which is one of the primary reasons the front office are going to keep Felton (though he could be attractive bait for a team making a playoff push around the deadline).

What did we lose?: The primary think the Cats lost was reliability. Say what you want about Okafor, but he was always there and always brought everything he could to the table. There is a big question mark over Chandler coming off surgery to be able to keep himself on the court all season. The Bobcats also took a big gamble on Alexis Ajinca and even though he's still 1-2 seasons away from even seeing the roster with any regularity he will need to display some significant improvement to show management and the fans that he was worth risking a potential top 10 pick down the road.

Where do the 2009-10 Bobcats stand? Now for the big question. Did the roster improve overall? Perhaps a little. Henderson was a good pick, but doubtful to make a significant impact in his rookie year. Losing Okafor hurts our rebounding and it remains to be seen what kind of offensive player Chandler will be without Chris Paul. This teams biggest stride will be team chemistry, and if this unit continues to gel we will see results. We were four games out of the playoffs last season, but the east has become markedly better. With teams like Toronto and Washington making big strides as well as teams like Orlando, Cleveland and Boston being examples of the rich getting richer I think we may improve our win total overall I'm thinking 39-43, but still may end up on the outside looking in due to improvements to other team's rosters.

 

What do you think? Have I lowballed the 2009-10 Bobcats? Can we be a .500 team, or better? Agree? Disagree?

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What will the 2009-10 Bobcat's win total be?
Less than 25 wins
0 votes
25-30 wins
0 votes
30-35 wins
3 votes
35-40 wins
7 votes
40-45 wins
17 votes
More than 45 wins
0 votes
Too early to tell due to possible roster moves
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Great recap. Rec'd.

I don’t know how we improve our win total by that much with the other improvement in the East, but yeah, I can’t see us making the playoffs either way.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions  

I'm valuing chemistry quite a bit.

I think Atlanta will come back down to earth and I don’t see Orlando maintaining such a high regular season win total, even with their new additions. That being said I just don’t see a sub .500 total netting a birth this year.

by James Dator on Aug 3, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Berth star.

This isn’t the WNBA.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Playoffs... Playoffs...

I think the Bobcats are going to make the playoffs. Orlando lost a key piece when Turkey-glue went to Toronto. He created horrible match-up problems for everyone. Orlando will, however, still win the South. I think Charlotte will slip into the playoffs in the 8th spot. We showed improvement last season, and I am taking it on good faith that the Chandler trade was a basketball move. Look for improvement next season.

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by jmiller112 on Aug 3, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too soon to call on playoffs...

We have to see the health of Chandler, Will Felton share the ball (if he’s here), will AI appear in Bobcats Orange, and will we see the team from the arrival of Diaw and Bell on, or will it be the mangled mess from last year’s horrendous pre-season…

I think I could have taken Bogues and Dell Curry, May(on Crutches in a buffet line)myself with a sore knee, and my wife, and we could have whipped the pre-season team last year.

I went to the open practice and I was like…WTF…

by andrewlail76 on Aug 3, 2009 12:54 PM EDT reply actions  

"the team from the arrival of Diaw and Bell on"

You mean the one blowing games left and right against the Bucks, Pistons, and Timberwolves with the playoffs in sight?

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

However...

those stupid road trips due to horsey shows would have put a strain on any team regardless of lineup.

by James Dator on Aug 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess...

But they haven’t given me enough of a reason to rationalize for them.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2009 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

weren't we without Bell...or with Bell at less than 100%...

I was referring to the win over the Lakers on the road…then the huge skid without Wallace…

by andrewlail76 on Aug 3, 2009 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well with the lineup as currently constructed, im thinking no playoffs. Even if we use or MLE on one of those oh so attractive remaining free agents, we still don’t make the playoffs. There just isn’t anybody available out there to make a huge impact.

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by mad_dog_maddux on Aug 3, 2009 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Does Larry actually open up the court or is this still a half-court offense?

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by mjschaefer on Aug 3, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

what about cartier martin

he could be a very good player if hes given a chance

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by raysfan81 on Aug 3, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Cartier Martin

Martin is gone. I think he will sign with a team, but if not he will be playing in Europe. I think he has enormous upside; however, the Bobcats will not sign him again.

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by jmiller112 on Aug 3, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Already signed in Italy.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm not sure I think the bobcats are moving in the right direction

i think cartier would be good off the bench or in a spot start if gerald is hurt

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by raysfan81 on Aug 4, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's got upside, sure...

But he’s not quite where he needs to be in terms of his consistency. I know I, for one, wouldn’t feel great if he had ended up starting for any significant period of time.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

If the roster stays as it is currently (Felton included),...

…i think for the Cat’s to make the playoffs:

1) Radmanovic will have to play minutes at the PF.
2) The team will need production from young, unproven players. (Brown, Henderson, Augustin & Ajinca)
3) Health is going to be a huge deal. It’s always crucial in sports, but this particular team’s chances of playing in the post season are resting heavily on the health of players with recent history of injury: Wallace, Bell, Chandler, Augustin.

However, i still expect some further moves. They might sign someone cheap like Juwan Howard, etc. Is Shleldon Williams still available? The longer Iverson remains unsigned the more i think the chances of him playing in Charlotte increase.

After the Okafor-Chandler trade nothing would surprise me. Another major roster shake up could be in the works.

by dudemanhey on Aug 3, 2009 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

How much money would Von Wafer command?

A player like him could be an option as the back up 2 &/or 3, and can score the basketball. The more time that goes by, i imagine that the players on the list of free agents are starting to get anxious about signing with a team Hopefully the Cats can get somebody at a great value!

by dudemanhey on Aug 3, 2009 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Von Wafer

How about a Sign and trade…Wafer for Nazr?
LOL…like anyone would take Nazr…

by andrewlail76 on Aug 3, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

We don't need him.

Wing is the position on the team where we’re pretty set depth-wise. A guy like that takes minutes and developmental time from Henderson. If we are going to spend money on another player, it should be a 1 or a 3/4 type.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

true

Throw me some names…
I can’t sleep

by andrewlail76 on Aug 4, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

First, I’ll share that Ryan Hollins was just signed to a 3-year, $7 mil offer sheet by Minnesota that Dallas will not match. Apparently somebody is still chasing that potential.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Kevin Ollie, a supposed LB fave, is also gone as of Saturday.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

He was called “a lengthy, athletic center, with a lot of upside, who should complement Al (Jefferson) and Kevin (Love) really well.” Apparently the Gooden signing forced him out.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that...

How about Rodney Carney?
Al Harrington?
Cedrick Simmons (an NCSU guy…LOL)?
Pops Mensah-Bonsu?

by andrewlail76 on Aug 4, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Harrington is not an FA. Excercised a player option.
Simmons is more of a project, but he’s not terrible.
Mensah-Bonsu is not ready to get NBA minutes. He’s athletic and he’s willing to throw his nose in there, but there’s very little skill to go with it.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

"Pops" is a "versatile player"

PF/C…
LB loves that…
We’d get an athletic, energetic, but raw player.
There just isn’t much out there.
Until they do something with Felton…who knows what will happen…what role will need to be filled. Could we see a return of Brevin Knight? Surely not…

Harrington did what J. O’Neal did…Player option…

by andrewlail76 on Aug 4, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now, as for guys I wouldn't mind seeing here (listed alphabetically):

Morris Almond, PG (Utah) – word is, though, that he’ll stay with the Knicks after he performed well for them in Summer League (14 PPG.)
Calvin Booth, PF/C (SAC) – Good veteran presence who is more versatile than Diop or Muhammad, but certainly not at the top of my list
Ryan Bowen, SF/PF (NO) – Good rangy shooter, but not much presence on defense or the boards.
Rodney Carney, SF (MIN) – Saw you listed him too, but I don’t know how much of a role there is for him. Would he not offer a lot of what Brown theoretically sould?
Anthony Carter, PG (DEN) – I’d legitimately be ok with him starting for a stretch if Felton leaves and DJ gets hurt.
Jarron/Jason Collins, PF/C – See description for Booth, Calvin.
Juan Dixon, PG

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Continued...

Melvin Ely, PF/C (NO) – Decent scorer and rebounder at the end of the bench.
Aaron Gray, PF/C (CHI) – Former high draft pick, great rebounder.
Jason Hart, PG/SG (DEN) – Decent bench combo guard.
Juwan Howard, PF (CHA) – Only at the minimum to provide a great veteran presence at the least.
Luther Head, PG/SG (HOU) – He’s an RFA, but he’s a great outside shooter and can distribute ok, too.
Othello Hunter, PF (ATL) – Raw, but played well here for our summer league team last year.
Royal Ivey, PG (PHI) – Another former high pick: good defensively, but it looks like Philly will resign him shortly
Bobby Jackson, PG/SG (SAC) – Good veteran presence, local guy, too.
Linas Kleiza, SF/PF (DEN) – Versatile offensive player, but he’s apparently headed to Greece if he doesn’t get at least the $2.7 mil tender he got from the Nugs.
Brevin Knight, PG (Utah) – Good veteran presence who has always known how to make his teammates better. Too bad that concept didn’t take with Felton.
Rob Kurz, PF (GS) – Versatile offensive player, but doesn’t offer much in rebounding or defense. Was looking to sign with Philly a month or so ago.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I like this late night chat

I could see Knight part 2, or Jackson, or Dixon as PG fillers if Felton goes…

As for PF…I could see a league min Howard return…Simmons under LB could be nice…Hunter would be OK as well
Ely has been in Charlotte before. Perhaps he would do better with LB

Can’t wait for about 2PM tomorrow. You know something will probably be announced.

by andrewlail76 on Aug 4, 2009 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm breaking my list up in case you go to sleep.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Ced Simmons could be acquired for cheap i would be 100% in favor of that move!

I was impressed with Ced Simmons when he played at NCSU, and thought he should have played one more year in college to refine his skills. He’s still young and has potential though.

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

Continued again...

David Lee, PF (NY): I’d pay $8 mil for him (sign and trade with Felton?), but the Knicks are going to match such an offer.
Tyronn Lue, PG: Good option at #3 PG, strong defender.
Stephon Marbury, PG (BOS): There could be worse options if we’re looking for a 15-20 MPG backup.
Sean Marks, PF/C (NO): Decent post body, played well at times for the Hornets at the end of last year when they got thin.
Donyell Marshall, PF (PHI): Another versatile perimeter-oriented big man, but he can board a little, too.
Chris Mihm, PF/C (MEM): Before he got hurt, he looked like he could have been a decent rotation post player, unfortunately, i don’t know if he ever came back from it.
Flip Murray, PG/SG (ATL): scoring is his strength, but he can distribute when he want to. However, Philly also wants him and would have him with a multi-year offer.
Mikki Moore, PF (BOS): Seemed like another guy who was on the verge of being a player just a couple years ago.
Steve Novak, PF (LA): good outside shooter, but that’s pretty much it.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great list

I was thinking Moore…Marshall(but I was concerned with age)…Lue, and Marbury…but will LB and Marbury mesh?
I’d think LB and AI would mesh better…but who knows

I think I’ll call it a night

I’ll watch the board tomorrow…

by andrewlail76 on Aug 4, 2009 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Donyell Marshall

Marshall would also be a useful veteran to have on the team. He can shoot the ball for sure.
 What kind of money could his services be obtained for?

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably not much.

If a guy hasn’t attracted attention on the market by now, there probably just aren’t many teams interested.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still continued(er?)

Novak is an RFA, but I doubt the Clippers value him much.
Leon Powe, PF, BOS: His top choice is Cleveland, and Boston offered him a contract, so there’s plenty ocf competition. Even if he is "ahead of schedule, I’d want to make sure it’s at least a two-year deal.)
Johan Petro, PF/C, OKC: He’s backup material, but he’s young and has plenty of starting experience.
Shavlik Randolph, PF (POR): Actually showed really well in Philly before getting hurt
Nate Robinson, PG (NY): Apparently very close to signing a deal very like Felton’s qualifying offer. I’d probably rather have Felton for one year, but if we could secure him with something like $16 mil over 3, I might think about it.
Malik Rose, PF, OKC: Old-school player who probably realizes he’s been overpaid the last few years and might come at a bargain
Ramon Sessions, PG/SG, MIL: I’d absolutely take him over Felton. 4 years, $25 mil?
Michael Ruffin, PF/C: Standard mediocre vet backup post
Sean Singletary, PG, CHA: We could do worse than a young guy who knows the system
Brian Skinner, PF, LAC: See Ruffin, Michael
Joe Smith, PF: A decent piece, but would he come as cheap as most of these guys?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Robert Swift, PF/C, OKC: Young former high pick who might still have some potential
Stromile Swift, PF/C, PHO: Athletic, but has never really realized his potential.
Jacque Vaughn, PG, SA: Can still produce when given minutes.
Jake Voskuhl, PF/C, TOR: Decent vet big man, and he’s probably younger than you think (31.)
Lorenzen Wright, PF/C, CLE: Lengthy, athletic big man. Pretty long in the tooth, though.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

taking minutes from Henderson?

How would signing Wafer slow Henderson’s development anymore than signing AI would? Or what about signing a PF would slow Ajinca’s development? Both Henderson & Ajinca are first rounders.

 For all the complaining about a lack of scoring how could you not believe the Bobcats don’t need a player with his scoring abilities? What happens if (when) Wallace or Bell sustains an injury? A player like Wafer sure would be needed then — if the Cats don’t want to have to depend on rookies for starter’s minutes. All i asked was how much money Wafer would command. If he would play for cheap then it could be a great value.

Having Wafer could potentially HELP develop Henderson and alleviate the need for a back up PG as well. Henderson has the ball handling skills and quickness to be the 3rd PG. Plus, he wouldn’t be asked to come in immediately and be expected to produce off the bench. A player like Wafer could take some pressure of D Brown too.

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

What?!

Wafer can only play the two. So he’d probably come off the bench for Bell, with Henderson third. Less minutes for Henderson, less development.

Henderson does not have the tools to be a PG, so putting him as third PG doesn’t make sense. Furthermore, we saw what happened with Felton’s development trying to make him play the 2. That’s one of his primary problems now, he plays PG like he’s a SG.

Iverson causes the same problems, plus he’s a TERRIBLE influence on the young guys in general.

That being said, Wafer could be had for cheap, but we really need to concentrate on getting an offensive big man to come off the bench at the 4.

by James Dator on Aug 4, 2009 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW...

Wafer played almost as much SF as SG for Houston last year. Maybe they were going small.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Less minutes doesn't absolutely equate to less development.

If Bell get hurts and is out of the line up for an extended period of time — a situation that is far from unlikely — Henderson could be put into a situation where he would have to play a high volume of minutes and be asked to contribute more than what is to be reasonably be expected from a 21 year old rookie. That could potentially stunt a player’s development by setting them up to be unsuccessful early on in their careers. It could also help his development….there is no garauntee as to which players will excel at the next of their careers and in what type of circumstances.

When i look at the Bobcats roster i see more of a lack of depth at the wing than in the post. (especially if you consider D Brown as a PF too. I see Radman 6’10" as much more of a PF and Brown 6’8" as a SF though.) I agree the ‘Cats could use another scoring threat, but i don’t think it matters whether it comes from inside or out. Plus, as far as acquiring a quality free agent (who can score) at a low price tag, i think the more bang for the buck would probably be in a wing player. Good offensive big men are harder to come by.

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Consider Radmanovic and Brown whatever you want.

They’re perimeter players who don’t rebound or have post games, offensively or defensively.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and the three seasons he averageded 30 minutes per game...

… he also averaged more than 11 ppg and 5 rpg.
He wont see that kind of minutes probably, but if he could 8 & 3 in 15 minutes consistently at PF that’s more than we could expect from many others.

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

5 RPG for a PF getting starter's minutes is terrible.

Jason Richardson’s only finished under 5 RPG once in his career, and he’s a GUARD!

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

When did I ever say we should sign Iverson?

Another huge difference: Ajinca sucks. Henderson does not.

Finally, Wafer is nowhere close to a PG.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did you read my post?

When did i say Wafer would pay the point? I hope that Felton and Augustin have that position taken care of…but i said Henderson could be the 3rd PG on the roster. It has been stated on here before that Diaw’s play making abilities give the roster some leeway with who is at the point. As long as Henderson can defend the PG position then that scenario could be viable in a pinch.

I hope Henderson will pan out. But there is no certainty that he will ever be quality a NBA starter, much less be ready to contribute anything much at all this season. I hope he can contribute right away and develops into an All Star…but there is no guarantee.

Ajinca and Henderson have both produced about as much in the NBA thus far, in their careers. Personally, i hope they both excel given the time and the appropriate opportunity to develop.

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

That being said. I think (if another piece must be added) a scoring threat is what is needed — a post or a wing, which ever can be acquired at the greatest value. That might very well be bringing in someone familiar with LB’s system like Juwan Howard, Singletary or Dontell Jefferson.

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Seriously?

You’re calling a group of players that averaged 11.5 PPG in 33 minutes combined “scoring threats?”

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

No!

i’m calling them the potential “greatest value.”

by dudemanhey on Aug 4, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, excuse me.

You said Henderson should be the 3rd PG. Which is almost as bad an idea. He was never a playmaker at Duke, and his career A:TO ratio was under 1. What he will do, though is instantly be one of our top on-the-ball defenders and one of the best offensive options on the second unit. Finally, comparing Ajinca and Henderson is ridiculous. Henderson was a leader of a top-flight NCAA team. Ajinca couldn’t get run in the French minor leagues.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Shelden Williams to the Celtics

And they claim to want to sign Davis also…seems odd to me.
Looks more like they set themselves to let anyone get Davis…maybe its just me

by andrewlail76 on Aug 3, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams came cheap, I'm sure.

They’re covered if they don’t get Davis, but they can still match “any reasonable offer,” as they’ve said all along. I think that’s in the $6 mil a year neighborhood.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Might not be a bad idea...

But I’d want to make sure we had a PG locked up first. Also, I’m not sure that Davis would be better than Felton unless we got a longer commitment for him.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Williams is gone. 1-year deal with Boston today. Glen Davis contingency?

The latest Iverson news is that the Knicks consider him a fallback to Sessions and he has been offered a 2-year, $10 mil deal with a Greek team.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 3, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not necessarily.

But it does give him leverage.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

AI...

That’s why it’s in the “Iverson news” section.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Nah...

But it’s possible if he doesn’t get an offer he wants. He’s a proud fellow.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

LOL...

I think that offer’s probably good only to the first who accepts it.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Bobcats' best bet now

Is to sign a couple PF’s struggling to break into the NBA to non-guaranteed deals and let them battle it out in the pre-season for a spot on the team. I’d prefer younger guys who would hopefully play a bit harder than a vet on a minimum contract. Charlotte is only a Tyson Chandler injury away from being very weak on the boards and defending the paint. This addition wouldn’t necessarily play center like Chandler but would have to excel at doing the dirty work (rebounding, defending, setting screens) to remain on the team. Vlad will have to suffice as the scoring forward off the bench.

At PG, bringing in a vet makes sense if Felton leaves. If he stays, then Dontell Jefferson is fine as the 3rd PG. They could bring in a body or two to challenge him for the spot though. After that, the roster is pretty much a wrap with 14 players likely to be the max for the start of the season.

by ClipCat on Aug 4, 2009 1:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah.

Like Andre Brown and Dwayne Jones and Justin Williams…that worked out well.

Also, is Dontell Jefferson even under contract? I really think we could do much better.

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by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's all about opportunity

None of those guys ever got much of an opportunity to play. Combined, Brown and Jones played 93 minutes over 10 games for the Bobcats. That is much too small of a sample size to say that they “failed.” They just didn’t ever have much of an opportunity to succeed. Williams never played for the Bobcats, and I’m not sure what his connection to the team is – a tryout perhaps?

Richard Hendrix seems the closest to fitting the description of what the Bobcats need in a backup PF. I wouldn’t mind giving Jones another shot. Rod Benson, Kurt Looby, Courtney Sims – plenty of possibilities because there are many players out there that can fill out an NBA roster. None is likely to ever become more than just a marginal player, but a new face with something to prove would be more interesting than a washed up Juwan Howard.

There are probably “better” guard options than Dontell Jefferson, but the 5th guard is not going to play except in case of injuries or in garbage time. Thus, sticking with DJ, who has some potential and is familiar with Brown’s system, makes sense to me. If not DJ, the best option should be another prospect who might develop into a future #2 PG (Jared Jordan, for example). There’s no reason to bring in a veteran just to sit on the bench. I don’t believe DJ is under contract, but he doesn’t need to be signed until training camp starts. And his contract doesn’t need to be guaranteed until he makes it through the pre-season.

by ClipCat on Aug 4, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Williams was under contract at some point last season.

And it’s obvious that Brown would rather have a consistently mediocre vet (i.e. Howard) more than a high-upside youth.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Aug 4, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more. Here's my short list of good undrafted rookie FAs

- Luke Zeller (Notre Dame)
- Tony Gaffney (UMASS)
- Alfred Aboya Baliaba (UCLA)
- Diamon Simpson (St. Mary’s)

by James Dator on Aug 4, 2009 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

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