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(Optimistic) Back of the Envelope Projection for the Bobcats' 2009-10 Season

Last year, the Charlotte Bobcats finished with a 35-47 record, the best record in team history. The team certainly looked a lot better after trading Jason Richardson and Jared Dudley for Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, and Sean Singletary, but as I've argued before, even though they probably did improve, Dudley was the most valuable player in that trade.

We gave up Shannon Brown, a perfectly decent guard, and Adam Morrison, a useless train wreck in need of repair, for Vladimir Radmanovich, who's probably better in a one to one comparison at the two-guard and the three than either of those guys, but not by that much over Brown. To boot, we're now on the hook for his contract while Morrison most likely will never get another million dollar NBA contract and Shannon Brown will still get paid far less than VladRad to ply his trade somewhere next season. So it goes. Get a small upgrade in talent in exchange for a hit on salary value.

This strategy makes plenty of sense. While everyone else is trying to clear cap space for 2010, we may as well acknowledge that we won't be players in that game and instead try to find bargains among the teams that want to dump talented players signed to longer contracts. The problem is that we didn't really get all that more talented, and now, with the team pushing up against the luxury tax if they use their full mid-level exception, we're pretty much tied to improving the team through the draft unless we can move a large contract... which everyone else is trying to do.

So here's a back of the envelope projection for next season. I'll be optimistic, putting Augustin in the starting lineup instead of Felton, and assigning playing time based on my common sense. Like I said: back of the envelope.

Star-divide

Numbers are based on eyeballing Basketball Prospectus player cards and Basketball-Reference player pages. The totally average team would win 41 games, and a replacement level team would win about 10 games. All wins listed are above replacement level.

Projected Wins Above Replacement

Augustin 3.5

Bell 0.0

Wallace 10.0

Diaw 8.5

Okafor 10.0

===

Felton 3.0

Henderson 1.0

Radmanovich 0.5

Diop 0.5

===

Total: 47-35

Derrick Brown? Everyone else at the end of the bench? No idea. This assumes that Augustin and Felton will switch up their playing time and that everyone will play, roughly, the same number of minutes they did last year. More or less, the real opportunities for improvement will come at the off guard slot, where Gerald Henderson can leap ahead of Bell's production, or at point guard, where DJ Augustin has the potential to up his game and be a major upgrade over the PG play the Cats got last season.

But that assumes Wallace, Okafor, and Diaw will all still be very good to borderline All Star. Take away wins from their performances, and we're back where we started. As I'm fond of saying, this team, as currently constructed, tops out as the six seed, and it looks like that's our lot for the foreseeable future, until at least the 2011-12 season, when we'll be guaranteed freedom from Mohammed's and VladRad's contracts, but probably farther, until Diaw's deal expires.

The only way we break free from that fate is if our draft picks are revelations. Augustin could be a seven-win player. Henderson could be an eight-win player. And if that comes to pass, and everyone else holds steady, we'll have a 55-win team on our hands and have legitimate title dreams.

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Don't confuse the terms...

I know how analytics work and what they say, but best monetary value≠most valuable.

And as for your Augustin and Henderson predictions, I think the first is reasonable, but Henderson as an eight-win guy won’t happen for a few years, if at all.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 12:58 PM EDT reply actions  

It’s not clear, but yes, that’s what I meant. Most valuable on the floor is not necessarily most valuable to the bottom line.

by David A. Arnott on Jun 30, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm confused by the projection....

But how could Diop be worth 0.5 extra wins and Raja Bell be worth zero?

Raja is clearly an important contributed on both ends of the floor.

by James The Aussie on Jun 30, 2009 1:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Bell is in decline in both areas. Not sure if that means he is worth 0 though.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jun 30, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

No doubt he’s in decline… but he’s a damn sight better than Diop.

by James The Aussie on Jun 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wins Above Replacement

Probably doesn’t have the precision to meaningfully compare players as different as Diop and Bell. Both make below average starters but are decent depth players. Their value greatly depends on how they fit with the rest of the team.

Each player’s individual value to the Bobcats is debatable, but this team as composed is somewhere between the 6th and 10th best team in the East. To reach the high end of that range, they’ll need to play better as a unit than their individual talent would indicate. I believe Larry Brown is molding them into a team capable of that, but we shouldn’t get carried away with high expectations.

by ClipCat on Jun 30, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

In short: Diop is a big positive on defense, and though he’s a negative on offense, he doesn’t really hurt them that much because he doesn’t attempt to do things he’s incapable of doing. He nets out positively, even in his limited playing time. It’s a lot like Dominic McGuire on the Wizards, who went a couple hundred minutes without scoring a point, but was still a contributing member of the squad.

Bell, on the other hand, has a reputation for dogged defensive play, and he can turn it up at times, but he’s declining at a relatively young age and there’s no way he’s an elite defender anymore. Five years ago, his defense made him great, but nowadays, he has exactly one plus skill: shooting spot up threes. And even then, I’m probably being generous in projecting that he’ll be replacement level; BP thinks he was below replacement level last season.

by David A. Arnott on Jun 30, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bell wasn't so hot on defense here, even before he got here.

Don’t you remember Crawford putting up most of his 50 in his face?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just to be clear, being replacement level is not good. By definition, a team of replacement level players would go out and win 10 games in an NBA season.

by David A. Arnott on Jun 30, 2009 2:43 PM EDT reply actions  

If replacement level players would win 10 games,

Then wouldn’t your prediction imply the Bobcats will win 47 games next season (10 + 37)?

I agree with you the Cats as currently composed should win between 37 and 44 games. Perhaps the range should be wider than that, but realistically 40 wins and the franchise’s first playoff appearance would be a solid season for this team.

by ClipCat on Jun 30, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's how I read it too.

And 40 wins would be HUGE, but I don’t see it happening.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m an absolute idiot. Yes. I did all the math separately a while before writing it up. Again, it’s an extremely optimistic look, showing how the Cats top out this year.

by David A. Arnott on Jun 30, 2009 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks for pointing that out. I’ve changed a few sentences to show that this is what happens if Wallace, Okafor, and Diaw hold with their stellar play.

by David A. Arnott on Jun 30, 2009 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

How much does it suck that the Cats aren't fielding a Summer League team this year?

because I was looking forward to seeing DJ, Henderson, Brown, and some scrubs take on some folks.

Blogging at RidiculousUpside, where my terrible writing meets people's eyes.

by Aisander D on Jun 30, 2009 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Sucks a lot...

But I’m not payin’ for it. ;)

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jun 30, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well Henderson and Brown are playing

According to a small article in the observer this morning, Henderson is playing on the Timberwolves’ Las Vegas summer league team and Brown is with the Jazz’ (Jazz’s?) Orlando team. Looks like you get some of what you were looking forward to.

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Jul 1, 2009 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh I didn’t see your Fanpost until now

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Jul 1, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

A nice effort nonetheless...

and for continuous Summer League updates and a run down of the rosters check in with RidiculousUpside.com (read: shameless plug).

Blogging at RidiculousUpside, where my terrible writing meets people's eyes.

by Aisander D on Jul 1, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Felton would be the best back up PG in the NBA...

…But he’s not going to stay (past this season if at all) if he doesn’t think he will be the starter. Moving DJ into the starting line-up will decrease the Bobcats’ winning percentage. If Augustin is the starter next season do not expect the Cats to win 35 games. He’s a liability and if he is running the show expect to see lots of sloppy play.

by dudemanhey on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 AM EDT reply actions  

You're kidding, right?

Felton is a turnover machine in the clutch, and the team ran more efficiently when Augustin ran with the starters than Felton. These are facts.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Facts? You know the difference in opinion and fact right?

I wonder if you even watch the games? And if you do the i suspect you have never played or coached organized basketball. And if you have done either then your BBall IQ is very, very low.

by dudemanhey on Jul 1, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Facts:

Felton averages more pace-adjusted clutch TOs and fewer assists than mediocre guards like Sebastien Telfair, Nate Robinson, Beno Udrih, Rafer Alston, Luke Ridnour, Earl Watson, and JJ Barea.

We averaged 107.4 points/100 possessions when Augustin was on the court. We averaged 105.9 when Felton was on the court.

Thanks for playing.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I feel like you have some kind of bizarre attachment to Felton.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 1, 2009 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not a bizzarre attachment at all.

 I’m not a Duke/UNC guy , so i don’t care about that “I hate Dookies or Tarholes” silliness.

As a BOBCATS fan – objectively watching the games – I think Felton is a good point guard with all the tools needed to be a starter in the NBA. He plays hard defense, and has the athleticism to beat people off the dribble consistently. If the Cats had a dominant low post scorer to dish the ball to, his assist numbers would be higher than they already are (10th most in the the league last season).

 Plus, seeing as he has had three head coaches in four years it would be unwise to not keep him this year to play under Brown another season.

If the economy wasn’t in the tank, Felton would be getting offers of over 5.5 mil certainly. But i’m interested to see what happens in free agency this summer. Felton might have more suitors than you expect.

Not to mention that i am not as impressed with Augustin as so many of you on here are. I ’m starting to think some of you have bizarre detachment towards Felton, which manifests itself into a delusionally over magnified view of the talent of DJ Augustin.

by dudemanhey on Jul 1, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

My problem with Felton manifests itself in his shooting. He has an erratic shot selection. He’s NOT a good three-point shooter. He’s NOT even a good scorer let alone a prolific scorer, yet he continues to take a ton of shots.

Felton shot the ball 1083 times last year. His average was a shade less than 41 percent. By his position alone that was below average those point guards that both shot more and less than he did.

If you take it by his points per shot. He was 22nd among ALL point guards.

His three-point percentage has gone down each season.

He clearly doesn’t get to the line as he barley shot more free throws than Agustin despite playing more minutes each game and 10 more games.

But he’s more than scoring…he can dish the ball right?

Felton was 25th in the league in his turnover per assist ratio. That number actually dropped from last year. Hell it dropped from his rookie season.

Do you know why you weren’t impressed with Augustin? Because he didn’t see the floor as much as he should because no point guard played more minutes than Raymond Felton last year.

You can fact check all of this on ESPN.com if you’d like.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever, dude...

You must not know the difference between facts and opinions either.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

You’re a Tar Heel hating fool he has never watched nor played organized basketball.

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 1, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Typos…

Case of the beet bandit. Missing beets from all over the farm, no footprints. Inside job. Mose in socks. Boom. Case closed. -Dwight Schrute

by mjschaefer on Jul 1, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

See

We agree on some things — Procto is a fool!

by dudemanhey on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow...

Way to read. That was sarcasm, chief.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 2, 2009 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whatever, dude...

You must not know the difference between facts and opinions either.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

The difference...

..is when I state my opinions i understand that that is what they are. You state your opinions then claim that they are “facts.”

by dudemanhey on Jul 1, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I provided the statistical data that proved my "opinions..."

I notice you’ve chosen to ignore those, though.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 2, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Felton actually passed the ball to Okafor rather than jacking up 20-footers at 35%...

Okafor could be a fine low post scorer. He was 6th in the NBA in FG%…maybe he should get some more shots?

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 1, 2009 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many...

…of Raymond’s TO’s would have been Okafor dunks if he had the hands of an All Star?

by dudemanhey on Jul 1, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Objection, your honor...

Nothing but speculation.

Further, you may have never played or watched basketball, but turnovers are only assessed to the passer if it’s a shitty pass. Felton’s got plenty of those.

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 2, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

Chokafor a fine low post scorer? LOL

Shouldn’t he be able to create shots on his own without anyone passing him the ball or feeding him the ball? Oh that’s right, he’s severely limited on the offensive end of the court and when he does demand the ball it gets rejected or bobbles off his hands! If all my shots came from garbage put backs and ugly lay-uyps, I would be 6th in the NBA in FG% too! Maybe if someone else out of the starting 5 would WANT to take shots, Felton wouldn’t have to be the one “jacking up 20 footers” all the time. But, when the shot clock is at 5 and Diaw wants to pass, Bell’s running around off screens throwing bricks, Chokafor’s getting man handled down low, and Wallace’s unreliable shot and one dimensional penetration game isn’t working, no one is left but Felton to take the shots!! Please get off Feltons case, he is in the TOP 10 group of NBA POINT GUARDS!!! Until Augustin proves he can play a whole season without hurting himself, Felton should deservingly start!!

by D.W.G. on Jul 2, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

I though you were just writing a Bobcat hating rant until I read “[Felton] is in the TOP 10 group of NBA POINT GUARDS!!!” So you’re really just delusional. Way to back that nonsense up with facts, too.

by ClipCat on Jul 2, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

It really amazing the ingnorance in some “fans” , so who realistically would you want on this team Mr GM?? Who realistically could they get to replace Felton?? And FYI, these are the top point guards in the NBA statistically. Please get a clue before you call someone “delusional”; http://www.yardbarker.com/forum/2/3/discussion/Top_30_NBA_Point_Guards/266095.
SORRY HE’S 12TH BEST I WAS OFF 2 POSITIONS.

by D.W.G. on Jul 2, 2009 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well that just proves it then

Actually, I wouldn’t mind if Felton came back and split time with Augustine this year. He just needs to accept that he’s a role player and not a star to become a more efficient cog in the rotation. I’m not anti-Felton, just a bit more realistic than you about his abilities.

That “statistical analysis” you linked is more than a year old and not even based on last season. It does not in fact demonstrate that Felton is the 12th best PG. It only shows that Felton ranked highly in counting stats without taking into account his low shooting percentage and high playing time relative to other PG’s. Do you also believe Baron Davis is the 2nd best NBA PG? Typing in all caps and using exclamation points doesn’t make something true.

by ClipCat on Jul 2, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umm...

No, a low post player can’t get the ball to himself.

And Raja Bell is a better shooter from 3PT than Felton is from the field. I hardly see how you suggest he’s “throwing bricks.”

Remember, kids...don't ever let facts get in the way of your argument.

by MichaelProcton on Jul 2, 2009 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d rather have Augustin starting, but I doubt that will happen. Looks like Felton will re-sign for much more money and I just can’t see him getting benched in favor of Augustin. You’re right, Charlotte does have to go with this upgrade talent strategy since no big free agents would probably ever sign with them. Unfortunately, I think that means their ceiling is as a 45 win team, unless they were to win the lottery one year or something

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by bucketsndimes on Jul 1, 2009 4:32 PM EDT reply actions  

What we are all forgetting about Felton, no matter how great a player he is, is that he takes over games in the 4th quarter (for better or worse, normally worse). How many times last year would it be a close game and Felton apparently thought he was Dwanye Wade and would take it to the hole on every possesion and either miss the layup or get fould and of course miss 1 of 2 foul shots.

Every once in awhile he heats up and can carry the team during a stretch like that but it’s not often. Don’t get me wrong, I like Felton – he’s a solid NBA PG, not great by any stretch but he’s definitely top 20. I would really like to see Augustin start this year, see what we get out of him – remember he CAN create his own shots and he shoots the 3 ball very well.

The only way I would advocate starting Felton is for trade value purposes, give him a little showcase, if he sits on the bench it decreases his value and it will make him leave at the end of the year.

by artiscursive on Jul 3, 2009 8:01 AM EDT reply actions  

Finally…something about Felton that I agree with.

by andrewlail76 on Jul 3, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I totally agree...

I have been screaming for months now about it. Everyone is trying to dump nobodys with huge contracts and the Bobcats are sitting here in Charlotte say hey we cant win why not pay somebody else 8 million dollars to ride the bench. We have the money. It sucks because we wont have money for free agents when the good ones are available and nobody is talking about the 2011 free agents.

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by jmiller112 on Jul 12, 2009 2:20 AM EDT reply actions  

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