Bobcats Fans Don't Have A Consensus of Trust
Ultimately, I think what we all want from the Bobcats is a consensus of trust. I want to be able to look at whatever my team does and think to myself: "Absolutely... Makes all kinds of sense... That's perfect..." like New England Patriots fans did with Bill Belichick circa 2003, or, more appropriately, like Seattle Mariners fans are doing right now. I'm pretty certain this is what fan contentment looks like, even when the team isn't yet a championship contender:
What am I supposed to write about when they’re doing exactly what we suggest, targeting players we’ve already advocated for because they make a lot of sense? I mean, yeah, the team is getting better, but I’m running out of material. I don’t know how many different ways to write "woohoo! good move!"
And then Larry Brown goes and tells Rick Bonnell something like this:
Brown says no more than three guards should play regularly, but there are all sorts of conflicting goals to service: He is trying to develop the rookies, he's trying to help D.J. Augustin get back his confidence, and he'd rather Stephen Graham not disappear through no fault of his own.
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Short of some trade that would swap a guard for a viable 4-man, this is going to be improvisational.
"Maybe we need to re-explore playing Tyson (Chandler) there," Brown said.
The potential to play Chandler as a center and a power forward was one of the incentives for the offseason trade of Emeka Okafor. But that hasn't happened much, with Chandler still not all the way back from ankle surgery.
"We've got to get him to a point where he's comfortable and confident, and he's not playing that way right now," Brown said. "The more he plays, the more confidence he gets and then maybe we can play him more" at multiple positions.
1 -- I'd like to know what, exactly, Brown is doing to "develop the rookies", because he's certainly not giving them NBA minutes. Gerald Henderson is averaging 9.3 minutes per game, and he's played fewer total minutes than all but SEVEN first round picks this year, and five of those guys haven't even played in the NBA at all, for various reasons (Blake Griffin, Ricky Rubio, Victor Claver, B.J. Mullens, Christian Eyenga). The two others? Jordan Hill has been a disaster in New York and James Johnson was beaten out for playing time by second round rookie Taj Gibson in Chicago.
2 -- Stephen Graham absolutely should be the odd man out, and that this is an open question speaks volumes about what Larry Brown values. What does Graham do that a combination of Henderson and D. Brown at guard and forward can't do? Even if you think Graham is better right now than those two, is he so much better than either of them that the benefits of giving the rookies minutes are outweighed by Graham's awesomeness? Seems to me that explicitly demoting Graham gives minutes to the rookies. Two problems solved.
3 -- We're really going to revisit Tyson Chandler at power forward? Really? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I understand the desire to give Nazr Mohammed more minutes based on his inspired run this season, even though I think Chandler's the better bet moving forward to be a more productive total player, but playing Chandler at power forward, given what we know about him and the rest of this team, should simply be a non-starter. There's no way he can guard the quickest PFs like Josh Smith, and the only reason we should even consider playing him alongside Nazr is if we're facing a twin tower lineup like Sheed-Garnett or Shaq-Z. If we can't make a trade for someone like Sean Williams, who's been marginalized on his current team, then we should stay in our holding pattern and give minutes to D. Brown in the power forward slot, or (deep breath) give Alexis Ajinca chances to sink or swim. Either way, I don't think playing Chandler at the four advances any objectives, whether that's giving playing time to younger guys or winning now, or trying to juggle those two objectives.
All I want is to hear the Bobcats are mulling a move, or have made a move, and know before I even look at the details, that it's probably a good idea and not just some desperate ploy, or shuffling of deck chairs in the vague hope something changes for the better.
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Well spoken
You are correct on all counts…
It really sucks being a Bobcats fan. I was disgusted with the losing streak, then excited with the win streak, and now deflated to the realization that we were handed our @sses by the Celtics…
Still…
I think we are 1 trade away from being “reasonable”
I won’t say a contender…I’ll just say contender…
That said…here’s the inventory:
Law, Felton, DJ, Flip – PG
Jackson, Henderson, Graham – SG
Wallace, Brown – SF
Diaw – PF
Mohammed, Chandler, Diop – C
Seems like I’m forgetting someone…
At any rate…
Let’s get serious and look at needs vs overstock…
4PGs…1 absolutely needs to go…no need for more than 3.
3SGs…2 is fine…3 is fine if one can have some ball handling skills
SF…I know Brown is preferred for PF, but he’s undersized in the weight category. Let’s get some more muscle on him and leave him at the SF position and part time at PF…
PF…Diaw?…this is bad…having only a hybrid PF is not having a PF…
C…Need 3 only if 1 can play PF
That said:
PG – DJ, Law, Murray – Use Felton as trade bait
SG – Jackson, Henderson – Drop Graham
SF – Wallace, Brown, (Insert Name)
PF – (Insert Names) Use Diaw as trade bait
C – We’re stuck with what we got.
So…
Slam me now…
Gerald Henderson's lack of playing time in favor of Stephen Graham....
nearly makes my head explode every game. Give him solid minutes now, and benefit by his steep learning curve come February/March.
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+1
Perfectly said Aisander. The only thing I’d add is that it’s entirely possible that Henderson has a talent ceiling as an NBA baller. We have no idea at this point because despite LB’s comments there hasn’t been a single sustained effort to “develop” him. Give the man his steep learning curve and we’ll either benefit by it as you said, or we’ll know he’s not going to be reliable. Either way, we’ll have a definite answer instead of the huge question mark that still sits next to his name right now.
by Ourdaywillcome on Dec 3, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Not the Nets. Please.
That’s what I’m worried about. I could totally see us somehow losing to the Nets.
You and every neutral observer of the team.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 3, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fake Fan...
but we will probably lose.
Blogging at Ridiculous Upside, where my terrible writing meets people's eyes.
I think probably is a bit strong...
But they’ll certainly have an emotional edge to get off the schneid. I’ll be there in all my glory, though.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 4, 2009 2:51 AM EST up reply actions
...or maybe I won't.
Somebody told me it was a home game. Whoops.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Dec 4, 2009 2:55 AM EST up reply actions
Right because teams never lose games they're suppose to win
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 4, 2009 1:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
But then again
It’s the Nets!!!
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 4, 2009 1:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions

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