Bobcats Lose to Pacers 101-98; TJ Ford Runs a Clinic
One night after a stirring comeback win, the Bobcats fell to the Pacers, 101-98. Granted, it was the second half of a back to back, and on the road, too, but Indiana was without Danny Granger, making this game tougher to accept.
The Pacers simply had better ball movement, better passes, more open looks... it was a clinic for much of the game, led by Professor T.J. Ford. The Cats kept it close with a few key advantages and made a tight game of it in the fourth, staying in the game until the final possession, but, ultimately, it just wasn't enough to overcome the other holes they'd dug.
Highlights and lowlights after the jump.
BAD-- Did Boris Diaw hit rock bottom last night? No, he did not. Tonight? Not quite. But the Knicks game may have been a precursor to tonight's stinker. While he was 3-3 from the field with 8 points, he had 0 rebounds and only 1 assist, all in 36 minutes. On the final inbounds play, with 1.4 seconds remaining in the game, he received the inbounds pass from Flip (why wasn't Gerald inbounding?) and then, instead of shooting the three for the tie, passed it on to Augustin, who had no chance to get his shot off before buzzer. Furthermore, Troy Murphy -- a guy I love, by the way -- absolutely torched Boris and whoever else was guarding him. Murphy ended up with 26 points and 15 rebounds, including 5-7 from three.
-- Stephen Graham: 15 minutes. Gerald Henderson? Derrick Brown? They combined for 0. Lovely.
-- It's interesting that Larry Brown is okay with letting Ronald Murray be himself. As quoted in the Observer, Brown's perfectly fine if Murray shoots his way out of slumps. Flip's probably earned that right with his play over the years, but what strikes me about it is the base notion that it's no use trying to force Flip to change dramatically, that LB is a better coach if he deploys his player based on his established strengths and weaknesses instead of expending energy trying to change him and putting him in positions where he'll be expected to be someone he isn't. I appreciate coaches who do that, because they're acknowledging that they are not all-powerful and can't work miracles.
So why the double standard with D.J. Augustin? He was a certain player in college. He was a certain player in his rookie year. He's not a pure creator and he's not a rugged defender, but he can handle the ball and facilitate the offense and shoot the lights out! Sure, it'd be nice to try to imbue him with some of those qualities, but Damon Stoudemire made a long career for himself as a point guard without being exceptional at any of that. Same for Eddie House, if you want the role player example. Why tear D.J. down from that kind of player to try to rebuild him into something else? He'd probably be better off in a triangle or D'Antoni or Donnieball offense, but just because our offense is best run by an all-around creator doesn't mean he can't be a productive player in said system.
-- The defense couldn't stop T.J. Ford, or anyone really, from creating good shots. The Pacers made 35 field goals, and 29 were assisted, 13 by Ford. They were 48% from the field overall and 12-24 from three. Ouch. I'm probably thin-slicing, but I think I'm developing a fear of smaller, relatively faster, point guards after seeing Will Bynum and now Ford vivisect our defense.
-- Will someone please inform basketball officials that when Tyler Hansbrough splays his arms and curls his legs as he goes up for a layup under the basket, it's probably not a foul, but just something he does to get foul calls. I don't mind if he does it for emphasis, like when Gerald thinks he's being shoved around and he snaps his head back on screens, but every time? Really? That's the secret to getting to the line so much?
GOOD
-- Gerald Wallace scored 29 points and had 12 rebounds. There just isn't much more to say about him... except that he's slowly moving from underground aesthetic hero to underground dark horse All Star candidate.
-- Tyson Chandler had the kind of game we hoped he'd bring at least twice a week. 13 points and 13 rebounds, while getting to the line for 9 free throws. For purposes of both this entry and the Boris entry, I'm conveniently ignoring that Indiana's big man defense is, reputation-wise, atrocious.
-- The Cats were 30-40 from the line, which gave them a huge advantage over the Pacers, who were only 19-26.
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this was like a bad sunflower seed
tough to swallow.
it was a very average Pacers team without it’s all-star, and we had to CLAW back just to lose with dignity.
however, you failed to mention DJs pretty great game. 9 points and 6 assists. both season highs.
not to mention a OT forcing 3 with .5 more seconds on the clock.
The assists are a season-high...
But DJ’s been above nine points four other times this season, including 21 in the home game vs. the Nets where he put the team on his back and refused to let us lose.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 1:29 AM EST up reply actions
What a double standard!
You rip Felton for not having 7+ assists every game. But in that Nets game, DJ barely musters 2 and you say he put the team on his back? And in a game where he shot 6-14, 0-4 from the 3?
Why is it so difficult got you to judge these guys fairly?
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
by southtunnel on Dec 17, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions
Did you watch that game?
And yes, there’s a double standard in judging a former top-five pick in his fifth year against a second-year player.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
Have you watched any of the many games that Felton has won for us?
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I wish I was surprised
One thing that has bothered me about this team from game 1 and really stuck out to me tonight: we don’t have very many “high basketball I.Q.” guys. Stephen Jackson is the antithesis of high basketball I.Q. with his extremely inefficient play. Stephen Graham, who we all know shouldn’t be playing, has no idea what he’s doing. Flip Murray is the same. Gerald Wallace is a hustle guy. He doesn’t need to think through the game. Perfect for his role. Tyson Chandler? Right…
I just don’t see anybody that knows what they’re doing. When we win it’s the result of hustle defense, a good shooting night, height mismatches… The high turnover rate is the greatest evidence of this problem. Has anyone else noticed that everyone on the team thinks they’re Peyton Manning, trying to squeeze passes to players when there’s no physical way for it to actually get there? This is the Boris Diaw paradox. You give him 10 opportunities to pass the ball and 5 of them will be sick, “how did he do that” looks. The other 5 will be “wtf was he thinking” turnovers. Jax falls into this sometimes, but he’s a much better scorer (at least when he posts up and isn’t jacking up 3’s at a 28% clip).
That’s not to say this is a terrible team. They’re obviously not. But to win, we’re going to have to not just play lock down defense, but get turnovers, get in transition, and score without having to over think it. The shot selection has just been so poor, the passes mindless… I can’t imagine life without Gerald Wallace making up for a lot of mistakes with his rebounding and hustling.
Also, I cringe every time Stephen Graham, Flip, or DJ go into the game. When they get the ball I close my eyes. Horrifying.
I hoped I would never have to see Travel Hansborough again… Not only do I have to see him again, but he’s still getting away with the garbage he did in college just flailing his limbs and throwing crap at the rim. I was really hoping either Gerald or Jax would just deck his deer in the headlights face. Or better yet, Gerald Henderson gets pissed that he’s not getting in the game and just charges him during a time out to lay another elbow on him and make him cry again.
i feel like Jack has a high basketball IQ but sometimes he stretches too much for a spectacular play. he has to have a higher IQ to play at this level because he’s not super athletic
by OldschoolBlue on Dec 17, 2009 6:18 AM EST up reply actions
"Will someone please inform basketball officials that when Tyler Hansbrough splays his arms and curls his legs as he goes up for a layup under the basket"
It’s worked for him the last four years. Why would he change now. His one above-average NBA skill is drawing fouls, and acting certainly doesn’t hurt.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
It’s amazing. He’s the first NBA rookie… ever… to get foul calls.
by David A. Arnott on Dec 17, 2009 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
I am predicting
Tyler Hansbrough gets punched and/or punked down during his NBA career. Last night, a part of me wanted Wallace to do it but the cats cant lose him. Also, can you imagine the reaction in North Carolina if the struggling NC NBA team’s best player punched everyones college hero. It would be the end for Wallace as a Bobcat. I saw hansbrough elbow Wallace in the mouth at least twice, exactly like henderson did him. He also did it to Jackson once. Then someone tripped Wallace on purpose and Wallace stood up limping a little. These guys were trying to kill wallace and Hansbrough did the majority of it. Hansbrough definitely deserves to get his ass kicked.
Is it the zone defense that's causing us problems?
We had that 4 game winning stretch where it looked like we had jelled into a pretty powerful team. Since then the offense hasn’t looked that strong. We are having much more trouble getting to the basket, and are settling for jumpshots… which we hit at a low percentage. Is it just that the league has figured out how to defend us?
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OR we're only playing 6-7 guys and not mixing up the scoring.
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That's because the bench isn't scoring
Nazr looked good, but now isn’t hitting as many shots. Murray, Augustine and Graham had times early on where they looked promising, but are now shaky at best. You’d think this would be reason to give Henderson more minutes.
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I think it's several things
But the zone D is definitely raising hell with the Bobcats offense. We eat a lot of clock on offense to begin with and the teams that have been mixing in a modified zone make Felton visibly hesitate for a second or two while he reads which defense we’re walking into. I’d much rather he hesitate then call his play without looking first, but it does cause more clock pressures.
Part of that problem is that teams have started using that zone a lot more in recent games and LB hasn’t had film/practice time to really drill the team on playing against the zone coverage. I’m sure they have general knowledge, but the team needs a couple of practices where they focus on quit lateral ball movement and study the seams in the coverage. This welcome break between games will give them the chance to do that. Of course it will also give us some time to heal up from the bangs, bruises, and exhaustion the recent back to back piled on us.
I didn’t do an “observations” article last night because my wife has been feeling poorly and she needed my focus after the game. She will always come first. But I also didn’t do one because the reasons for the loss were very obvious last night. Yes we should have beaten the Pacers without having to fight our way back from a big hole. But the causes for the lost last night were the usual problems – fatigue, poor roster usage by LB, blah blah blah. The only new factors were Felton’s injury and Hansbrough’s attempts to turn Crash into a piece of abstract art with his elbows and shoulders. Brown’s failure to activate Acie Law on a night when he knew damned well that Raymond was hurt enraged me. I don’t care how much Felton pleaded, he should not have played last night. Augustin should have started with Acie backing him up. A four day rest would have helped that ankle a hell of a lot more than Felton was able to help the team last night. One road game is NOT worth what it would have cost us if Raymond had damaged that ankle further.
When 3 men are carrying the team on their collective backs, you do whatever it takes to keep them as healthy as possible. Brown put his METHOD ahead of the needs of his players and that’s one of the quickest ways to ruin a team and lose the trust of your players.
by Ourdaywillcome on Dec 17, 2009 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
There's also the issue of us not having any reliable three-point shooters.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Hey, we actually can agree.
I do think a part of that rests on DJ’s shoulders. Many people on this blog, and probably some on the coaching staff as well, were expecting Augustin to pick up where he left off last season. His inability so far this season to knock down long range jumpers consistently is hurting more than his confidence – It’s hurting the whole team.
He picked a great time to knock down a long jumper last night. Just a fraction of a second too late!! So close to a really clutch play.
Flip Murray was also brought into hit 3’s and so far this season he has not been able to do it with any level of consistency.
Not to mention Boris Diaw’s regression.
You can't pin that responsibility on one player.
It’s got to do with roster construction. Augustin was literally the only reliable returning three-point shooter on the roster. Diaw’s efforts were an obvious aberration, given that he shot 25% better from three than he ever had before. And I’m sorry if you think Murray was brought in to make threes, but he’s been a below 30% shooter from long range for his career, and his career high is just 36%.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
i think it's more brown's fault for not letting the guy get consistent minutes to get back into a groove
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
I don't know that I disagree.
When Augustin’s gotten 20+ minutes this season (as the third guard off the bench should), he’s done relatively well.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 3:52 PM EST up reply actions
I think you got it backwards
He get’s 20 minutes WHEN he’s playing well. But when the guy goes out there like a deer in headlights he becomes a liability.
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You're right.
We should be expecting 10-7 from him when he’s in the game three times for 3:30 each.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 18, 2009 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Or the issue of us not having reliable shooters from anywhere
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Everything about Brown's method is upsetting to me.
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Browns method is to play great defense, create turnovers, drive to basket, and create fouls. Why is that upsetting? Please stop the push for Henderson to play more, he cant shoot (thats not good for someone is a SHOOTING guard)!! If only Wallace wouldve made that three or if there was just a few more seconds in regulation, the game wouldve went to OT. Great effort to come from behind guys, just fell a little short.
"it's a bad day to have a bad day"
"Please stop the push for Henderson to play more, he cant shoot (thats not good for someone is a SHOOTING guard)!!"
Seems to be working for Flip Murray
I’ll take Gerald Henderson and his 0.396 FG% over Murray and his 0.335 FG%
So remind me why we shouldn’t be pushing for Henderson again?
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by James The Aussie on Dec 17, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
+1,000
Not to mention, Henderson is a rokie with untapped poetntial, it’s not like this guy is in his 5th or 6th year, he’s a 21 year old kid.
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And for those who follow PER
S. Graham: 8.69
R. Murray: 7.47
G. Henderson: 13.30
The NBA average is 15.00. So why should we not be pushing for Gerald Henderson to play more minutes when he’s a more efficient player? Perhaps his efficiency comes in garbage time, but Graham cannot be considered an improvement over a more talented Gerald.
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by WhatAboutBob_cats on Dec 17, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Dirty Carolina "Fans"
THIS IS THE FREAKIN NBA IF HENDERSON IS BETTER THAN MURRAY HE SHOULD PLAY. HE HAS UPSIDE AND POTENTIAL
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
Umm, yeah, this.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't mention Henderson at all
I said he should have activated Acie Law ( a reserve point guard) and started DJ Augustin. This would have allowed Felton to have had the night off to rest his injured ankle instead of playing and risking further injury. I’m not bothered by the loss last night. It was a just-miss and until the team gets used to finishing games like that – as I believe they will as the season progresses – they will lose more of these than they win. But if Felton had gotten that ankle stepped on, or rolled it again while making a cut to the lane, we’d be missing one of our 3 pillars for what could potentially be weeks. It was an unnecesary risk and just because we got lucky that doesn’t mean I’m not going to let LB off the hook. The next time we may not be so fortunate.
by Ourdaywillcome on Dec 17, 2009 2:40 PM EST up reply actions
Henderson was drafted to play great defense, create turnovers, drive to the basket, and create fouls. Everyone and his cousin knew he didn’t have an NBA-ready three point shot. I don’t see the conflict between what Brown says he wants and what Henderson supposedly brings to the table, which is exactly where the bewilderment comes from.
by David A. Arnott on Dec 17, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
It's upsetting because it isn't working.
The Bobcats are barely better than they were under Vincent before Brown’s arrival, and that’s despite a ton of added payroll and staff costs.
And quit with your crap about Henderson not being able to shoot from long range. Want to know some other SGs that can’t shoot from long range?
Andre Iguodala
Trevor Ariza
Chris Douglas-Roberts
Ronnie Brewer
Larry Hughes
Dahntay Jones
And yet each of these players are starting and contributing for their teams. They realize (as most who have seen an NBA game do) that the vast majority of NBA wing scoring comes in the slashing and mid-range game. You get points no matter where you put the ball in the basket from.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Ahh...
Well I really pretty much consider him a PG, or at the very least a combo. I guess Hughes falls in the same category, but it could be argued that combos compensate by being able to create.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
Henderson is not as bad a shooter as you think. I remember him hitting many clutch three’s for Duke. Also, the 2nd half of last season, he was the go to scorer for Duke and his shot improved along with his confidence. He is definitely better than graham and Murray. Have you not watched him when he does get playing time? Hes had sick blocks, dunks, and steals. Hes been on sportscenter top 10 already. The guy is an athletic freak and he is the perfect example of a player to play LB’s method. He definitely deserves playing time and will be a solid player in the NBA for a long time. You gotta take off those baby/pastel blue shades and watch him play.
Where...
has everyone come up with the notion GH is a poor shooter…Larry Brown say it?
Last I looked, Graham is taking out of control drives and launching risky shots as soon as he touches the ball. If we’re going to have someone do that…let it be our rookie prospect…
by andrewlail76 on Dec 18, 2009 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Gerald took over as the go-to guy without making a ton of spot-up threes.
What he really got better with was his 12-16 foot midrange game. That fadeaway jumper became deadly, but he’ll have to tweak it to hit over bigger defenders.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 18, 2009 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
I'm willing to watch Henderson work on tweaking it.
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That's why they left the practice court open to the street.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 18, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions
I'd would not like to watch Stephen Graham tweak any part of his game.
send him to the practice court, or the bench.
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I think he is refering to Browns ridiculous rotations. Stephen Graham the biggest we all know he should not be playing. Flip should not be getting the mins he is getting. Henderson is athletic enough to make an impact on the game his shot will hopefully get better but he needs mins to improve. Browns coaching philosophy is solid but his substitutions leave more than a few of us scratching our heads.
That was my point.
His philosophies are great, but his rotations are killing me.
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his philosophy of not playing rookies isn't great
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
I was discounting that as an actual philosophy.....
I’d term it lunacy.
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I agree as well
He’s on his usual pace… Making the playoffs in his 2nd year. And that pace has served him well over his career. But being more loyal to Murray and Graham over Augustin and Henderson is a head scratcher
on behalf of tha dirty south: soul food, carolina blue, southern hospitality, and tha queen city
Is making the playoffs at six games under .500 really the "pace" we're looking for?
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 19, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
I'd much rather be looking for that pace
than expecting a season of less than 30 wins which is what many predicted.
Do you really still expect the team to finish 6 games under .500? You’ve had to revise “there is no way the Bobcats will…” statements several times thus far.
by Ourdaywillcome on Dec 19, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
People predicted us to be worse than last year?
Not anywhere I saw. And yes, I think it’s entirely possible we finish six under. My statements about how many games this team will win actually hasn’t changed, just what the results of the performance will be. If this team makes the playoffs, it won’t necessarily mean they’re good. It’ll probably mean the East was godawful this year. 38 wins might get us the 8 seed (or, actually even as high as the 6), but I would suggest it’d be nothing to write home about.
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 19, 2009 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
The pace I'm looking for is to be the best team in the league
But for a team that potentially lacks a single player worthy of an All-Star appearance… I’ll be happy with just making the playoffs.
Until we get a player who is more of an offensive stud than Wallace… I doubt we’ll ever be much more than an around .500 team.
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by southtunnel on Dec 19, 2009 11:52 PM EST up reply actions
Haha...except DSL is the phone company. :P
Overheard in press box, from local reporter: 'If this Moore kid was any good, they'd be up 31-0 right now.'
--Darin Gantt, on CAR@NE
by MichaelProcton on Dec 17, 2009 4:52 PM EST up reply actions
What about:
Time Warner only shows 1/10th of Bobcats games in HD because if they showed more subscribers would go blind from Gerald Wallace’s awesomeness and cancel their service.
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by James The Aussie on Dec 17, 2009 5:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
They don't broadcast Bobcats games on national TV
because unless you have HiDef Wallace is just shows up as a blur on screen.
by Ourdaywillcome on Dec 17, 2009 6:24 PM EST up reply actions

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