What to Do With Gerald Henderson
Question of the Day: When Flip Murray comes back and, ostensibly, we've got our full complement of players again, what do you think should happen with Gerald Henderson?
Obviously, I'm going to say he should play more than Larry Brown will play him, but if you were running the team, right now, and would be unable to trade anyone away, how would you handle the rotation? We have five guards who probably deserve playing time based on talent alone, and then there's Stephen Graham.
I'd probably consider playing more small ball, even if I have to play Larry Brown's style. Putting our best players on the floor probably means limiting DeSagana Diop and Nazr Mohammed's minutes, and rolling with Boris Diaw at the five and Gerald Wallace at the four when Tyson Chandler needs a rest. When the other team gives us the opportunity, I'm starting to think it makes plenty of sense to go with three guards, and Henderson makes the most sense to play that hybrid 2-3 position.
(Underrated part of the Bobcats-Nets game: At one point, each team was playing with four guards on the floor. Eight guards!)
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Henderson should be your 2 guy…
Bell/Henderson/Murray…unless you go similar to the Felton/Augustin combo…just the larger version…and run Bell/Henderson or Murray/Henderson or Murray/Bell…
I just think we have a hidden socrer in Henderson that is waiting to be unleashed…and where he doesn’t make baskets, he gets the other team in fould trouble and makes his points from the foul line…
What other option is there?
Trade a couple for a higher scoring SG?
Who can we spare?
Do we go for a PF thatr can score more pts…then what do we do with Diaw?
What a dilemna…
But again…we’re only 4 games in…
by andrewlail76 on Nov 4, 2009 12:44 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I have the answer:
play him. Often. Extended minutes. I have a sneaking suspicion that when Flip Murray gets healthy we won’t see Henderson play more than 10 minutes in any one game the rest of the season.
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by Aisander D on Nov 4, 2009 12:52 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I agree
And it is sad.
Felton thinks he has to carry the weight of the team on his shoulders in the last 5 seconds on the shot clock, but Henderson is more than willing to take that role…and be more effective…
What can we do short of a bilboard begging to see Henderson as a starter or a #2…
Hopefully, Murray will be the #2…and won’t score…and will become the #3…or…someone will see how skilled and athletic Henderson is, and a miracle will happen…
by andrewlail76 on Nov 4, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Flip will get his, he's a solid offensive player
I just hope that the next time Raja Bell breaks down Henderson will take Stevie Graham’s supersub minutes.
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by Aisander D on Nov 4, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Frankly...
I thikn we might as well send him to Maine, because he’s not gonna get any run from LB.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 4, 2009 3:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The obvious answer is to play him!
Bell is a great defender, but shouldn’t be getting the bulk of the minutes given his injury and the fact that he generally can’t create his own offense. As long as he can play he’s still a quality starter, but there’s no reason not to play Henderson when the team needs some spark on offense.
Creative small-ball lineups work against certain teams, but I don’t like playing Wallace at the 4. I think we need to see more minutes for D.J.at the point (rather than the 2 guard) with Henderson playing alongside him at the 2. Keep Wallace happy and SAFE at the 3 and let Ajinca/Brown take the reserve minutes at the 4.
Henderson, Ajinca, and Brown all need more playing time.
by and1droid on Nov 4, 2009 4:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Why is this so clear to us....
and yet so impossible for LB?
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by Aisander D on Nov 4, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because we don't hate rookies as a matter of course.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 4, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
Our worst stat is scoring and FG percentage…
Brown just HAS TO START HENDERSON?
What will it hurt?
by andrewlail76 on Nov 4, 2009 10:28 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy...
But what about Henderson’s game suggests he can be our answer on offense? He’s barely shooting 40%, and he’s not getting to the line at a particularly impressive rate, either.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 4, 2009 10:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well my only rebuttal....
is that he’s been significantly better than Steven Graham and more or less comparable to a recovering Raja Bell. So we may as well give the rookie some time to see what he can produce.
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by Aisander D on Nov 4, 2009 11:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fair enough.
But Brown’s argument would be that he’s not comfortable with Henderson knowing the right place to be and the right moves to make like he trusts Graham and Bell to do.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 5, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine reasoning....
but at the end of the day Graham does not provide much offensively, and Henderson has proven (at least thus far) to be a quality defender and reasonably efficient offensive player, if not a more explosive offensive player than Graham.
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by Aisander D on Nov 5, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We all saw it coming
And the Cats management did too. We’re overloaded at guard. But this is apparently the way Jordan, Johnson, Brown, and company wanted it. It’s not like they looked at one another when Flip announced he was ready to play and thought, “Willickers! How did THIS happen?”
Well, on either Friday or Saturday, we’ll find out what the decision makers were thinking. Maybe it’s all part of some master plan by basketball masterminds and we’ll be posting here on Saturday night saying, “WOW, WHAT A GREAT IDEA! These guys really knew what they were doing!” Maybe they will come up with a combination that will leave the Hawks in shambles. Maybe the Cats will win 105-82. And maybe, just maybe, Elvis and Michael Jackson will duet the National Anthem to start the night off.
All I know for certain is that if DJ Augustin sees his time reduced by so much as a minute we’re in trouble. Of course, the way things have been shaping up so far, if Tyson Chandler is on the court for more than 18 minutes, he’s either going to run up another 5 fouls or provide us with maybe enough offensive spark to light a birthday candle.
by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 4, 2009 11:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well someone has to lose minutes
Even though I think Felton should be the starter until D.J. proves he can do something besides shoot the ball (he’s getting there), Ray and Bell probably should have their minutes reduced.
Given the extended break, Flip may actually get some burn Friday, which will be huge. LB needs to get creative w/ the rotation. D.J., Flip, and Henderson are all going to be able to score against Atlanta’s bench, and they’re going to need to. I envision Graham getting more minutes than he deserves again to help contain JJ and Crawford.
by and1droid on Nov 5, 2009 7:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Let Henderson be the energy guy off the bench at least
Let him run the hell out of JJ and/or Crawford, try to get them into foul trouble, harass them on defense for 10 minutes.
by and1droid on Nov 5, 2009 7:07 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So if DJ proved he could turn it over six or eight times a game like Felton...
Would that mean he should get the starting job at PG?
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 5, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
D.J. has proven that he doesn't defend as well as Felton and doesn't distribute the ball as much
Felton has flaws but that doesn’t mean that D.J. should be the starter yet. If we could trade Felton such that it improved the team overall, I’d be all for D.J. starting.
by and1droid on Nov 5, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
What do you want for five possessions out of your PG?
Distributing the ball is all well and good…but Felton can’t do it. He’s got an A:TO ratio lower than 1 this year!!!
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 5, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's played in 4 games this season
You’re not dumb enough to judge a player on 4 games alone so stop bullshitting. We all know you’ll pull whatever you can out of your ass to bash Felton.
Now before you go and wet your panties and call me a Felton lover, please listen to reason.
If Felton doesn’t correct the TO’s then yea that’s a huge problem. He still ran the offense better than D.J. last year and did so over the preseason and for much of this very young season as well. I want the best team possible on the floor and right now. D.J. still has to prove that he can do something more than score before he takes of the PG from Felton.
by and1droid on Nov 5, 2009 6:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Felton did NOT run the offense better than Augustin last year.
Every offensive metric there is showed that the offense was better and more efficient when Augustin was in the game making shots instead of Felton jacking up 30-footers with no chance of going in. The same holds true thus far this year. Or did you miss Felton trying to get more turnovers than points against Cleveland? Or when he tried to decimate the entire offense against the Nets and Augustin was the only offense we had?
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 5, 2009 10:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
'Something more than score'
I might buy that argument last season, but thus far, Felton is hurting us more than helping.
Felton’s averaging 5 turnovers per game…. 5! That’s more than his assists at 4.5.
So, with Augustin, you’re getting less turnovers 1.7 vs. 5, 0.5 less points in 10 less minutes, and 1 less assist in 10 less minutes. Furthermore, what do you think happens to Augustin’s assist numbers when he gets to play with Bell, Diaw and Wallace?
There is no evidence, none, that Felton would be better at running the offense in 2009 than Augustin.
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Nov 5, 2009 11:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There have onle been 4 games this season James...
There’s little evidence for anything after 4 games. I’m basing my statement that Felton should still be the starter on the fact that he’s generally played better all around than has D.J. in D.J.’s very very young career.
D.J. does shoot the ball better and that does increase the team’s offensive efficiency. D.J. also spends the much of his time playing against the second unit.
You guys fly off the handle over something very simple. Please go back and look at what I did say and stop magnifying one little point that you don’t agree with.
I did say that Felton should get his minutes reduced. Naturally D.J. is going to be the player that takes over those minutes. Want to argue with me over that too? I think Felton needs to start because he plays better defense and there’s nothing worse than letting the opposing team’s PG have his way at the start of a game. We can go back and forth over who runs the team better but the only conclusive thing you can say that D.J. does better than Ray is score the ball. That’s important and that’s why D.J. deserves more time on the floor, but we also need defense and anyone who wants to argue that D.J. is able to bring that right now deserves a neck punch back to reality.
by and1droid on Nov 6, 2009 6:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's been 4 games, true
But I think you go with the hot hand, especially when it’s entirely possible Felton will be gone after the season.
As for the ‘we also need defense’ comment regarding playing Felton over Augustin, what defense is Felton providing exactly?
- Rajon Rondo: Scored 10 on Felton, higher than his season average
- Chris Duhon: Scored 13 on Felton, higher than his season average
- Mo Williams: Scored 24 on Felton, higher than his season average
- Rafer Alston: Scored 2 points, less than his season average
Interesting…. so the three games when Felton played the vast majority of minutes the opposing PGs did better than their season averages, yet when D.J and Felton played equal minutes (30 vs. 27) against NJ Rafer Alston did worse… but no, I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
I’m all for having a discussion, but it’s a little difficult to take your position as credible when you say things like:
anyone who wants to argue that D.J. is able to bring that right now deserves a neck punch back to reality.
Now before you go and wet your panties and call me a Felton lover, please listen to reason.
Can’t we just have an argument like adults without reducing this to a schoolyard back and forth?
Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.
by James The Aussie on Nov 6, 2009 7:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Those are some seriously nit picky statistics
and some equally grand assumptions drawn from them.
Rondo scoring 10 does not mean he had a break out game. Hell he’s known for his triple double games in last year’s playoffs. Also, Felton left the Boston game and recieved several stitches to his lip. No serious conclusions about Felton’s D can be drawn from that game.
The knicks game went into double overtime and Duhon ONLY scored 13. That must be considered when looking at Felton’s defensive performance.
Mo WIlliams had a good game as he is apt to do. Note, I’m not saying Felton is an allstar defender, I’m saying he’s better than D.J. Real statistics have shown that. Your interpretation of the 4 games played thus far has some serious flaws(as noted above).
I’m saying what I’m saying with all due respect James. I wasn’t directing the neck punch comment at you. I was rather just having a little fun when I was making my point.
I make no apologies about speaking more harshly to Procton as I am of the opinion that he is a first rate asshole. He’s berated other bloggers and used all sorts of foul language on here and on Bonnell’s blog. That doesn’t mean that I’m acting childish with you. I’m sorry if you disagree.
by and1droid on Nov 6, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DJ also spends much of his time playing WITH the second unit!
Do you think it helps him to be alongside guys like Diop and Radmanovic instead of Wallace and Diaw?
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 6, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It helps him score points for himself playing the other team's 2nd string
I don’t think I’m being overly critical of D.J. I love his production and want him to get plenty of playing time. I just think we should be realistic.
by and1droid on Nov 6, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It also gives him more defensive attention and makes him more inefficient because he's the only scorer on the entire unit.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 8, 2009 10:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You are officially
my betting advisor from now on. Nice prediction. Final score-103-83.
by MR. MANN on Nov 6, 2009 9:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He needs some PT
i hope he plays more minutes as the season progresses . He does seem to get better with every game played, with some flashes of excellence. We need him to develop quickly because there’s not much money to play around with unless they trade raja with that nice expiring contract.
by OldschoolBlue on Nov 5, 2009 6:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
This makes me wonder....
do you think the ‘Cats would be willing to include Henderson in a trade for someone like Stephen Jackson? I’m not sure who else they ’Cats would float out to interest Golden State besides Diaw.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/10397/dont-forget-bobcats-in-stephen-jackson-sweepstakes
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by Aisander D on Nov 6, 2009 12:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
trade talk already?
It’s conceivable that we went guard heavy in the hope that some would step up the game well enough to make some decent trade bait – and I’ll admit to a bit of ignorance to the state of some of the contract status in the backcourt, but I just don’t see us grabbing a developing player like Henderson just to turn around and package him off to some other team.
The one thing we haven’t talked about amidst all the Felton bashing and hand wringing over Chandler’s nightmare start, is that the powers that be looked at this team on paper and knew (largely because of Larry Brown’s system) that they’d be strong on D. It’s also obvious they were looking to Diaw, Wallace, and Chandler to provide the offensive spark. We’re quickly learning that Wallace can’t do it alone. Right now our problem isn’t in the backcourt, it’s with our play in the lanes and at the rim. Our lack of offense is forcing Felton to make crap shot selections and force passes to players that simply aren’t cutting or showing any motion in the first 18 seconds of the possession. He hasn’t ever been the greatest decision maker, but this season it’s being compounded by our total lack of flow. We’ve also done a pitiful job with screens and picks.
Our emerging problem is one that wasn’t properly recognized by management when the team was assembled for this season – we need stonger inside players. The rest of the world sure as hell knew it judging from the reactions to our draft selections! Without depth up front, we’re stuck with long jumpers and last-second hail Mary shots. NOBODY is posting up well, and we spend too many possessions with our forwards standing around waiting for someone ELSE to do something.
Is it possible that there will be drastic improvement once Chandler is back up to full form? Could it be that our starters are just off to a collective slump at this early stage? Sure it is. But I don’t believe the problem is going to suddenly fix itself and going small with 3 guards on the court simply isn’t going to work all the time – especially against a lot of the Western Conference teams.
Maybe this would be better off with a thread of its own, and as I said, I’m a bit ignorant on our contract and trade options so I don’t feel qualified to start the thread myself. But…
What do we have to seriously offer trade-wise at this point? Who can we market around without having to gut ourselves further by unloading one of our few players that is actually producing for us?
Is there anyone on the free agent market that can really help this team? I don’t think there are a lot of helpful options there this year.
I’d love to see some serious dialogue on this – I’m a student of the game itself, but I don’t pay as much attention as I should about potential trade-bait beyond looking at our salary cap restrictions and knowing that Bob Johnson is adamant about the team payroll being kept as small as possible until the attendance revenue picks up. It would be an education for me to learn more about what our exact options might be.
by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 6, 2009 2:57 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
We are weak in the post up game
Diaw likes to float around outside the paint and Chandler should get better the more he plays with the team but our best post player offensively is Gerald Wallace who will get battered if he stays down low too much and that leaves…nazr. Diaw does get those up and under floaters but to me it seems like Nazr has the best low post offense which is sad. Yes they have looked bad shooting wise from the start but you make a good point they have to take silly shots at times because theres no one they can just throw the ball to in the paint. Hopefully Chandler will make giant strides with his inside game, and i pray Ajinca beefs up and develops a post presence. Once we get Flip and Raja in the groove the shooting should improve but i think we do need to get a low post scorer.
by OldschoolBlue on Nov 6, 2009 7:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They were looking at Chandler to provide an offensive spark?
A guy who’s averaged double-figure scoring exactly once in his entire careeer? ha. Ha. HA. HA. HA
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 6, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
whats your deal?
this dude procton must live a sad life
by OldschoolBlue on Nov 6, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
We all do. We’re commenters on a Bobcats blog. And arguing about Tyson Chandler and Ray Felton, never thought my life would come to this.
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by Aisander D on Nov 6, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I couldn't agree more
To extend a little more honesty into things about who I myself am…
I’m a former soccer player and former soccer coach. I did play internationally for the US years ago. I say former because a year ago my back literally broke and collapsed. I am now largely confined to a wheelchair as a result and was forced to retire from my regular day job to live on disability. If you go to the games this season, check out the wheelchair seats and you may just find me. I don’t go all the time, but I’ll be there as often as I’m able.
I’m a basketball junkie and have been for almost 40 years. I do write professionally, although seldom about sports related matters other than soccer. I’m a big fan of the Bobcats largely because I was so grateful to see another pro team come in to town. It ticks me off when so much of the Cats’ marketing focuses around getting people to come out to watch some other team mop up the court with us. “Buy a ticket to a Celtics game and get Bucks game tickets at 1/2 price!” If I attend a game it’s because I love the game AND support the Cats as our NBA representatives in the league. Win or lose, I support the Cats. I know there is a percentage of people who come to the games to see their own favorite team and that’s fine, it just isn’t me. There is something that Procton said that I deeply agree with. Being a fan doesn’t mean being blind, it means you’re a fan sometimes in SPITE of bonehead trades or pitiful performance. Being a fan means you love the game and support the team. Call me guilty as charged.
I wouldn’t call my life sad. But I have FAR too much free time to spend writing posts like this than I would prefer to have at my disposal.
by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 6, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm with you
That’s a good point about blindly following the team. I wasn’t trying to say anything about you personally and i shouldnt have said anything about him. I’ve just never seen anything positive in any of his posts, maybe i missed a small one along the line. This site is a godsend though since it seems like the only place you can actually find news and chatter about this bobcats team. I don’t think there would be as much hard feelings towards the team if the Hornets hadn’t been in town and bounced out on us. Still a young franchise and hopefully they will get it going, gain some fans and make some real money
by OldschoolBlue on Nov 6, 2009 6:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The Hornets had nothing to do with it.
I’ve treated the Bobcats as their own separate entity from day one. And they’ve made more poor basketball moves than the Hornets ever could have thought of on their own.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 8, 2009 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No offense was taken
and I didn’t see anything personal in your post.
by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 6, 2009 8:03 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
You're totally right.
Nothing like a guy on the internet determining the quality of the life of someone he’s never met and never will.
Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt
by MichaelProcton on Nov 8, 2009 10:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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