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The Day After Stephen Jackson Arrived

In 45 minutes, Stephen Jackson brought to the table everything intriguing about him. What I love most about Jackson -- a trait he shares with guys like Matt Barnes and with Raja Bell -- is his sheer professionalism. What I mean is that underneath whatever facade happens to be presented, I sense a passion for excellence at the same time as I sense a near-arrogant confidence that this man has been through a lot in his life and knows exactly how to go about his business. Those three players get very different results from their play, but I also believe it's the kind of thing that leads teammates and coaches to say Jackson is a fantastic guy they love having on the team.

However, it's undeniable that Jackson's charisma swings both ways. If he truly wants to get back on a winning team right now, we're on borrowed time, and the front office had better be fielding calls from any and all suitors for his services. From the glass-half-full perspective, Jackson is a 38-Minute Player, as my co-worker put it. He and Gerald Wallace can both be penciled in for 38 minutes a night, and with no Raja or VladRad to appease with playing time, that means the rotation should be tight and clear. Say his beef was primarily with Don Nelson, and not with losing, per se. S-Jax and Crash on the wings is not the kind of dynamo a superstar will want to join via free agency, but it is a good enough core that should we somehow manage to acquire a star point guard, center, or power forward via trade or draft to join the incumbent group, we can start salivating about making noise in the playoffs. Someday.

As for the Bobcats' 97-91 loss to the Magic last night, there's a lot to unpack. Highlights and lowlights after the jump:

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BAD

-- The whole "Tyson Chandler getting in foul trouble" thing is getting kind of old. This BDL post from last year sums up the issue nicely: Coaches lift players because of the threat of them getting in foul trouble. The point of avoiding foul trouble is to avoid having to remove your players from the game, so to avoid foul trouble these coaches (say it with me) remove their players from the game. It will make your head hurt if you think about it too long, but, basically, I don't blame Chandler for getting into foul trouble (which he does) as much as I blame LB for foolishly failing to use Chandler for the most minutes he can, given that foul trouble.

-- 15-26 from the free throw line. Ugh. Lee.

-- D.J. Augustin's woes continued. 4 assists in 13 minutes is good, but 1-4 shooting and getting pushed around on defense is not. Does anyone remember what Damon Stoudemire did on defense? I know he wasn't all that good, but Mighty Mouse was a starter in the league for a while.

GOOD

-- Ronald Murray finally caught fire. 31 points on 21 shots kept the Cats in the game, and Murray was getting point guard duty in early crunch time.

-- Larry Brown played an eight man rotation. I wish Gerald Henderson had played at least a few minutes, but it's hard to convince Brown it wasn't in his best interest to play with his new toy (Jackson) or play the hot hand (Murray). In any event, the subs made sense, for once.

-- Boris Diaw: 10-13 from the field. Now, let's start working on those rebounds a bit.

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Money has always been Stephen Jackson's achilles heel of douchebaggery.

Now that he has the money and is coming to a place where he can be the star in the backcourt, play for a coach who can use him to his best and play with a former teammate (Boris Diaw from 2003 in Atlanta).

David, you use the word intriguing, which fits him perfectly… I would also label him as an enigma. For all the off the court issues almost everyone who’s ever coached him or played with him loves the guy. He has a ton of community outreach and youth programs to his name and was given a NBA Community Assist award in 2008.

He’s a strange guy, no doubt… but if he can keep his ego in check we may have just found ‘The Answer’ and it didn’t involve signing A.I

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Nov 17, 2009 10:26 AM EST reply actions  

A few observations

Before I start digging in I do want to comment about something David said that I disagree with. He said he doesn’t blame Chandler as much for the foul trouble as he blames LB for not using him well around the trouble. Chandler is still averaging almost 26 minutes a game. That’s not too good for a starter, but considering that Chandler has picked up a second foul before the 5 minute mark of the 1st quarter multiple times, it isn’t bad. Add in the fact that Chandler has also managed to pick up fouls in clusters – the next coming less than 2 minutes after snaring the first – and no coach would be able to trust Chandler to stay on the court once the whistles start to blow. It either means that he’s losing his cool after the first call or that the refs are watching him closely after that first whistle and calling him for the least little infraction from that point on. Considering how much Chandler runs his mouth to the refs whenever he gets called, I think it’s a combination of both. Some players never learn that if you piss off the ref it’s gonna cost you. Kevin McHale was famous for it. It’s the rare player (Gerald Wallace seems to have the right touch for it most nights) that can rail on a ref and not get tagged. The whiners of the league also pick up a reputation for it and are automatically scrutinized from the opening whistle in anticipation of trouble. I remember back when Tree Rollins all but bit off Danny Ainge’s finger that one of the refs later said they were so used to Ainge’s complaining it was assumed he was faking until one of the other refs spotted the blood. I think if Brown left Chandler in after he picked up a quick pair of whistles it would only be a matter of seconds before number 3 would get called and he’d play even less minutes than he’s getting now. Brown apparently thinks so too. He pulled Chandler the instant he picked up a second foul even though moments later he let another player stay on the court until a third was called. I’m sure Tyson’s shell-shocked. The other day someone on 5th street whistled for a cab and Chandler walked over and sat down on the curb for 20 minutes.

As to last night’s game itself:

There was a lot to like. As expected, Jackson’s mere presence on the court opened up the floor and gave people better looks at the basket and smoother runs into the passing lanes. Flip and Boris got rewarded handsomely as a result and I’m sure Diaw got the early benefit from already being used to Jackson’s passing patterns from previous experience. Watching things develop further once Jackson has had a chance to actually READ the offensive notes he’s been given and work out with his teammates is going to be a lot of fun. I still think we’ll be able to steal at least one of the next two games on the road. Things look good for us in Philly and Milwaulkee should be quite a bit more anxious about the Friday game as well. It’s going to be interesting to find out if Jackson will bring a badly needed killer instinct to the Cats so that if we break out into a lead we won’t be quite so willing to let the other team back into the game.

We just played one of the better teams in the conference twice in fairly short order and the end results were quite similar. The difference was that in last night’s game the Magic were healthier and on their home court. When the dreaded scoring drought threatened to manifest the Cats fought through it and kept the game close with inside scoring instead of just relying on defensive stops and ridiculous shot selections. Things are definitely looking up.

If things go according to Hoyle (does anyone even remember what that means anymore?) we’ll need a couple of weeks for Jackson to get into the flow of things and for the team to get used to his passes. After that our offensive numbers should be coming up nicely and LB can start working on some of the other smaller but still troublesome problems with the team. In no particular order:

1. Dealing with Felton’s poor shooting – better play execution will help, but it won’t make that situation disappear. Either Felton steps down and plays smarter, or he should lose minutes. We don’t exactly have a shortage of players at his spot.

2. The Chandler situation. It isn’t just the fouls. They put him on the bench and force us to use our reserves to be sure. But that’s just a symptom of the bigger problem. He isn’t playing defense at all. He isn’t boarding as well as he should and he’s obviously not in position to be able to play D correctly. His shooting, which has never been the best in the league in the first place, is nonexistent now. He’s less of an offensive threat than Nazr and I’m still going to make the case that Nazr should be getting starters minutes until Chandler at least steps things back up to his norm.

3. Since I mentioned boarding, our rebounds are on the downslide. It’s been one of our few bright lights this season so it’s obvious we have the skills. We can’t let that aspect of our game continue to slip just because we’re focusing more on other parts of the game.

4. Turnovers – we are showing some glimmers of improvement there but we have to continue to improve and we have to be consistent. One of the ways we’re letting teams get back into the game when we start to pull away is with empty possessions brought on by sudden clusters of turnovers. If we can play one quarter with only a couple of turnovers we should be able to play the next that way as well. Listening to the tv announcers makes it maddening. Far too often we’re hearing, “The Cats only had 2 turnovers in the 2nd but they’ve already given it away 8 times here in the 3rd.”

Those seem to be the biggest issues at the moment, although there are others. I’m hoping that with Jackson on the court the defense will open up and free some space for Wallace to move around in so he can get his mojo back the way he likes it. We have enough players for the backcourt now that we can try several different combinations and perhaps get a look at what Henderson and Law can really do instead of just speculating about it in the blogs. Assuming Jackson is with us at least until the end of the season it isn’t unreasonable to expect us to be in the thick of the fight for the playoffs this year. That means more seats filled at the Cable Box and less stress on the front office. It also means that by the end of the year we’re gonna need to get a bandwagon bigger than a Radio Flyer for a change.

But it doesn’t mean our frustrating nights are over. There are a lot of tough games ahead and just because we should be a better team very soon, I don’t think any of us are naive enough to believe we’re suddenly title contenders. We’re still going to have headaches aplenty, but I for one think I’ll be reaching for the Advil a little less frequently in the coming weeks and that’s a good thing.

by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 17, 2009 12:07 PM EST reply actions  

Goddamn this is such a long post,

But it’s so insightful and well analyzed. Ourdaywillcome has some of the most thorough basketball-savvy posts around. As for rebounding, Gerald is no longer leading the league; Joakim Noah is. And Noah should never lead anyone in anything except looking like King Goober the jackass.
ps. I don’t like Joakim Noah, but he is a decent basketball player . . . I guess.

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Nov 17, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Chandler's shooting is no worse than it's ever been.

He’s never been able to make a shot that wasn’t a tip or a dunk. Some seasons, he’s chosen just not to take other shots.

Turnovers are a direct result of having a careless gunner playing as our PG despite the fact that years of games show us he’s not right for the job. If you watched this team when Brevin Knight was still here, you saw a PG who knew how to make the right passes so his teammates were in positions to succeed. That’s how an offense is properly run, and, unfortunately, Ray Ray’s never gonna figure that out.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 17, 2009 8:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Chandler

Chandler just doesn’t know where he is supposed to be on the court. This leads to fouls. He also doesn’t know when to expect passes which causes problems on offense. Hopefully, this will come with time. He missed most of the preseason and needs to develop chemistry with his teammates. Maybe for now Nasr should start and Chandler could come off the bench. Refs are usually picky with fouls at the beginning of the first quarter and lighten up after the tone of the game has been set. Chandler would still get the same minutes, but he could play with more reckless abandon as a 6th man.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Nov 17, 2009 10:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for the comments!

I appreciate it. I just talk about what I see. I’ve been a student of the game for close to 40 (holy crap!) years now and I’ve learned a few things along the way.

by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 17, 2009 2:59 PM EST reply actions  

Free Throws

Despite how well Murray played in general yesterday, his key misses from the free throw stripe (along with Jackson missing 2, and everybody else clanking the iron) were a BIG reason why the Bobcats couldn’t pull out the road upset last night. Free throws are SO important and simple, how can NBA players still miss them as much as they do?

by dudemanhey on Nov 17, 2009 3:08 PM EST reply actions  

Excellent point

And I agree with you 100%

I should have made that part of the major problem list but I assume (bad mistake on my part) that free throw shooting is such a universal issue that most of the practices involve drills or pressure players to keep working them. We hear all the time about players staying after practices or coming early to pop off an extra several hundred from the stripe that it’s easy for me to forget that something that fundamental gets tossed in the background. I usually only think of it when I see someone like Shaq throw airballs from the stripe.

by Ourdaywillcome on Nov 17, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Last year they even got Diop, free throw airballer extraordinaire, to make some free throws towards the end of the year, I trust that the staff will make progress to improve team ft%

by WhatAboutBob_cats on Nov 17, 2009 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Diop - A foul line adventure.

A have never laughed so hard at an NBA game accurately predicting foul shot air balls. Fortunately, the outcome of the game was not in question. Diop is a joke at the foul line.

by Ft.Mill Bobcat on Nov 17, 2009 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you sure YOU'VE been watching this team for the last few years?

Outside of your personal whipping boy, Augustin, nobody on this team makes FTs.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 17, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Are you sure YOU'VE been watching this team for the last few years?

Outside of your personal whipping boy, Augustin, nobody on this team makes FTs.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 17, 2009 8:13 PM EST up reply actions  

FYI Procto

Augustin was 0-1 last night form the foul line.

And so far this season, DJ (.750) is shooting a lower FT% than your favorite Bobcat Tyson Chandler

by dudemanhey on Nov 17, 2009 8:25 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

He’s also only attempted 15 free throws to Augustin’s 61…. but I suppose that doesn’t matter.

Augustin is a career .875% free throw shooter… far and away the best of any Bobcat.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Nov 17, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions  

He was also among the NBAs best as a rookie.

But hey, 10 or so games worth of data clearly trumps 70+. And I’m sure Chandler and his 60% FT shooting over 1800+ FTs will maintain a 4-5 pace all year long, if not the rest of his career.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 18, 2009 4:05 AM EST up reply actions  

That means that Augustin has attempted 61 free throws and only made 45.

That’s pretty bad for PG who is SUPPOSED to be a sharp shooter. This year’s shooting stats for DJ are .750 FT%; .344 FG%; and an amazing .238 3pt%.

C’mon Procto, help me come up with a good excuse for him. I know it’s LB’s fault right? On second thought, let’s blame Raymond Felton…no…wait …how about MJ or Tyson Chandler. It has got to be one of those losers fault that DJ is in a slump, because obviously it’s not DJ’s fault!

by dudemanhey on Nov 18, 2009 8:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Who needs an excuse?

He’s playing poorly. But we’ve got seven times the data that shows these aren’t his normal levels of production. He will figure it out. Unlike Felton, who has put up consistently mediocre numbers over a five-year career.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 18, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

My point was

 The WHOLE team sucked it up from the foul line against ORL - the main reason we lost in my view.

Procto tried to give Augustin a free pass, not me. I’m just pointing out that so far this year (and particularly against ORL) Augustin isn’t getting done from the foul line either.

by dudemanhey on Nov 18, 2009 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't give him a free pass.

I simply noted that this has been a historically poor FT-shooting team, and Augustin is the only player who—thus far in his career—has been able to consistently knock down the shots. Even with his poor stretch so far this season, he’s shooting 88% for his career on more than 265 shots. That doesn’t happen by accident.

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 18, 2009 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

make all the excuses you two want though for your boy

y’all have perfected the art of excuse making when it comes to DJ not playing well.

by dudemanhey on Nov 18, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

D.J's down right now.

He’s a in a slump, no doubt.

But comparing apples to oranges (Augustin’s FT% to Chandler’s) weakens your point, it doesn’t strengthen it.

By your reasoning Alexis Ajinca is a better post scorer than Kevin Garnett because he’s averaging 0.625% from the field to Garnett’s 0.511%. Never mind that Ajinca only has 8 attempts to his name.

Cat Scratch Reader's resident optimist.

by James The Aussie on Nov 18, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Clearly, he is.

Haven’t you seen all the moves he worked on over the summer?

Remember when the Panthers had a good offensive line? Yeah, me too.
--Darin Gantt

by MichaelProcton on Nov 18, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

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