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Bobcats Trade Carroll and Hollins to Mavericks for Diop

Oh, boy. Matt Carroll and Ryan Hollins have been traded for DeSagana Diop. In the short term, this probably makes the team better. Diop has a solid defensive reputation, and he'll probably be a real upgrade on Hollins's raw energy, even if the offense is actually a downgrade.

Hollins was a vaguely intriguing fringe NBAer, and Carroll had gone from nice bench option to mostly useless within three seasons, so they're not really giving up much for a guy who can make a difference in limited minutes. As I wrote before, Diop's the mirror image of Nazr Mohammed, above average on defense and atrocious on offense. He'll help. However, it's an open question whether he'll be enough of an upgrade on the group of big men they've been using behind Emeka to push the Bobcats into the playoff conversation.

The real hell of it, though, is that Diop's contract is stupid long and for silly money. Also as I wrote before, in that same post linked above: Diop is signed for the same length of time as Matt Carroll, but instead of a declining contract over time, it increases to over $7 million by 2013.

Cue Weezy's "Milli".

Jason Richardson's deal is $13.3 million in 2010, and $14.4 million in 2011.

Matt Carroll's is $4.7 million, $4.3 million, $3.9 million, and then $3.5 million.

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Boris Diaw's is $9 million, $9 million, and $9 million.

Raja Bell's is $5.3 million.

Diop's is $6.0 million, $6.5 million, $6.9 million, and then $7.4 million.

Hollins is not signed past this year.

Examine that money. In two deals, the Bobcats started out on the hook for:

$18 million in 2009-10

$18.7 million in 2010-11

$3.9 million in 2011-12

$3.5 million in 2012-13

Now, they're committed to:

$18.3 million in 2009-10

$15.5 million in 2010-11

$15.5 million in 2011-12

$7.4 million in 2012-13

From the start of the season, they've saved $3.2 million dollars for the summer of 2010, for a total of roughly $7.7 million of cap space, pending any further moves. Without trading for Diop, they'd have about $9 million of cap space.

And... no... no... that can't be... Did they add $11.6 million in the summer of 2011? Apparently, they did.

There is only one motivation for this trade, and it sure as hell isn't the long term health of the franchise. Larry Brown and Co. have acquired a shot at the 7 or 8 seed and getting swept by the Celtics, Cavs, or Magic in the first round in exchange for sitting in cap space purgatory in 2011(!), and maybe even 2012(!!!).

Cap space is not always the answer, but it certainly doesn't hurt. It's absolutely possible to build a team attractive enough for a superstar to take them to the next level, but there's gotta be cap space to sign that guy. These moves don't make the Bobcats absolute playoff contenders, and they totally screw the Cats' chances at signing a significant free agent before the summer of 2012, barring a trade that moves Diaw or Wallace for someone who expires that summer or before. By cutting off the free agent route, our future is totally tied to the draft, now.

Again, the motivation behind this is not the franchise's long term health; it's to get Larry Brown a playoff appearance before he bounces. Getting to the playoffs is fun, but it's not that much fun if it isn't a step toward getting even better.

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At first I was excited for this deal – I was working under the assumption that moving Carroll’s longer contract off the books would be more beneficial than Nazr’s richer, but shorter contract. I wasn’t aware how much Carroll’s deal dropped off in terms of money, though.

In the end, the other deal might have been better if the Bobcats don’t move Felton for a decent talent. Carroll, for all his faults, has at least something to offer (especially when Morrison inevitably departs). Nazr has been a dead weight almost since he arrived in Charlotte, and he seems even more inessential with Diop coming in.

The only sunny side I can see from having so much money tied up in this roster is if you buy into the voodoo that Queen City Hoops is preaching with the stats on the starting lineup. If they can sustain that kind of production, building around a core of Okafor, Diaw, Wallace and Felton/Augustin makes a certain amount of sense. If Diop contributes to his potential, Augustin continues to develop, and the team retains Felton, that a relatively quality 1-7. Add a few more players in the draft, make some smart (cheap) signings to round out the bench, let the team gel, and there’s some potential there.

Unfortunately, they’re probably a star player away from anything substantial. Hopefully, a quality SG falls to them in the draft and turns out to be a diamond in the rough. Or, I guess, Augustin blows up in a way that even his early returns wouldn’t suggest.

It’ll be interesting to see how the rest of the year plays out, at least. At this point, though, I hope they keep the core to see what shakes out, and look to next year.

by morestuff on Jan 17, 2009 1:55 AM EST reply actions  

I don't understand this trade.

You exchange two end-of-the-bench dudes for a marginal player who replicates the “skills” of someone already on the roster. On top of that, as you’ve pointed out, the new guy has a terrible contract.

I’m not even sure how this deal helps the Bobcats this season. Do you start Diop and Okafor? You would have Felton/Augustin at the 1, Wallace at the 3 or 2, but who would you start at the 2 or 3? Bell or Diaw? I’d probably start Bell at the 2 and let Diaw come off the bench and play whichever position is necessary.

Having Diop on the floor means there is one less guy to be guarded.

A very strange trade indeed. It seems like a big win for the Mavs.

by torsoheap on Jan 17, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

Diop will come off the bench unless they move Gerald or Diaw, and he should help. Against the biggest teams, he can play alongside Okafor, and he’ll normally be in when Okafor needs rest and Brown would rather have a defense-first guy in there than an offense-first guy (Mohammed). It’s another NBA-caliber player at a position where they felt they lacked depth, and Morrison’s improved play this year made Carroll redundant, so he’s the one who got shipped off. If they’d traded Felton, as rumored earlier, this would have been an out and out heist for the Mavs. Since Carroll is a little better than Diop in total value, only that value is from a different position and tied up in totally different skills, I understand it completely from a “today’s talent” point of view, but, amazingly, we’ve managed to trade two of our three most untradeable contracts from the start of the season and managed to make matters worse.

All we had to do was sit tight, and we would have been ready to throw big money into the marketplace in the summer of 2011.

by David A. Arnott on Jan 17, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I have 1 question

Do you think there’s a possibiliy that Mohammed or Diop could ever play together?

No mistakes in the tango, darling. Not like life. It's simple. That's what makes the tango so great. If you make a mistake, and get tangled, you tango on

by pookeyguru on Jan 17, 2009 7:16 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be tough to justify, because the lack of mobility is jarring. I’m not sure the NBA’s recent history bodes well for such a pairing. At least one of the two bigs has to be able to roam a bit to keep up with the power forwards who spread the floor beyond fifteen feet from the basket. Maybe it’d work against a team that particularly struggles shooting from distance, because then we could work some kind of zone with the two bigs guarding the basket.

by David A. Arnott on Jan 17, 2009 11:39 PM EST up reply actions  

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