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Trading Boris Diaw would be nice. I've laid out why, previously. However, if the long term plan is to trade him for Eddy Curry, then everyone pulling the strings should be fired immediately for gross incompetence.


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The obvious solution back at the start of the season was to let Richardson play out his deal or wait for an irresistible offer in the summer of 2010, with one season to go before his deal expired. I always thought trading Richardson would be next to impossible because no team would be willing to give up enough talent to make it worthwhile. But I underestimated the Bobcats' willingness to screw themselves. Diaw's been tremendous for the Cats, but I still don't believe this is his true talent level, and if we're going to trade him, anyway, how he plays for us is moot. Compared to sitting tight with JRich, trading for Curry would save us approximately $5 million in 2010 and we would lose waaaaaaaaay more than $5 million worth of on-court production from Curry and Bell, as opposed to Richardson and the likes of Juwan Howard and Ryan Hollins.

If the goal is to blow everything up sky-high and start anew around Emeka, then trading Diaw is a necessity, but enduring Curry in the process is like having to scrub up the purged puke with paper towels. Trading Gerald would be like having to clean it up with no towels and with bare hands. I'm willing to endure the Good and the Bad, but Eddy Curry? Really? Do I hafta? As it turns out, Curry's knee might be arthritic, saving us all from damnation.

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Tonight, we get those Knickerbockers, riding a six game losing streak. Scattered thoughts time!

-- I have a huge mancrush on Nate Robinson. He was a second round pick who, every year of his career, has outplayed what DJ Augustin is doing. That includes his defense, which isn't All World, but Nate Dogg's so strong and such a leaper that it makes up for his height deficiency.

-- Like other Mike D'Antoni teams, the Knicks' notion of "positions" is kinda muddied. Jared Jeffries has been playing center. I mean, I remember when he was a two at Indiana!

-- I saw Tim Thomas wandering through the Wachovia atrium during my lunch break. My friends and I might have been the only people in the vicinity who recognized him as something other than, "He's so tall he must be a basketball player."

-- Emeka should dunk at will on anyone other than David Lee and Harrington. Everyone else is so slight compared to him. Another 25 point night, and perhaps a third person will put him in the All Star conversation.

-- With Raja still likely out, and Larry Brown's notion that he'd rather bring Carroll and Augustin off the bench, might Adam Morrison or, especially, Shannon Brown get the start? I'd have been playing them more than Carroll all along, but whatever.

-- I would like a non-race-related explanation for why Matt Carroll gets the loudest cheers when he enters a game and why the crowd explodes when he hits a shot.

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"I have a huge mancrush on Nate Robinson. He was a second round pick who, every year of his career, has outplayed what DJ Augustin is doing. That includes his defense, which isn't All World, but Nate Dogg's so strong and such a leaper that it makes up for his height deficiency."

How has Augustin been outplayed here, aside from defense? Augustin has basically the same PPG per 36 to Nate's rookie year, better three point shooting than Nate has ever logged, much better FT shooting than Nate has ever logged, more assists than Nate has ever logged, and less turnovers than Nate's rookie year. Nate rebounds and steals more, but I wouldn't say he's categorically outplaying Augustin.

And yeah, he's a second round pick, but it's not Augustin's fault that people whiffed on picking Nate in the draft.

by Greg on Dec 30, 2008 4:06 PM EST reply actions  

Per 36 minutes:

Augustin
15.5 pts, 5.4 ast, 2.3 reb, 0.6 stl
40.4 FG%, 40.4 3P%

Robinson's rookie year, his "worst" as a pro
15.6 pts, 3.4 ast, 3.9 reb, 1.4 stl
40.7 FG%, 39.7 3P%

Offensively, it's a wash, and defense kicks Robinson up, which I wanted to make clear is what separates rookie Robinson from rookie Augustin. I can't emphasize Augustin's defensive shortcomings enough, as I think it will dog him his entire career. As a general rule, every undersized player has trouble with defense (except Ben Wallace in his prime, which is the only clear exception I can find off the top of my head). It just is what it is.

As an undersized scoring point guard, Augustin will be hard pressed to improve as much as Robinson has on offense, and he has a ways to go to being the defender Robinson is, let alone a good defender.

by David Arnott on Dec 30, 2008 4:46 PM EST reply actions  

I actually misread what you were saying in the original post, I think. I read it initially that you were saying Robinson was a superior player, and had better defense on top of that fact.

I don't know how much stock you put into advanced statistics, but D.J. Actually has a comparable Defensive Rating to Nate Robinson's rookie year: D.J. allows 111 points per 100 possessions vs. Nate's 112. Part of that stems from the Knicks being terrible defensively that year, but it's not light-years different.

In addition, D.J.'s ability to distribute makes him the more desirable player, to me. Nate is pretty much an undersized SG. I haven't seen a ton of Knicks games between them never being on TV and just recently getting league pass, but when I have seen them, he's usually looking for his own shot. That tendency to me would negate the pros he brings to the table in terms of defense.

Not saying I wouldn't like to have him as a bench player, but in the long-term, I like Augustin more.

Also, if we trade for Curry I might not watch the team for a few years.

by Greg on Dec 30, 2008 5:58 PM EST reply actions  

David, I have your explanation about Carroll. He's a good old-fashioned story of hard work leading to success. He came from nowhere to become a solid NBA rotation player after bounding around on 10-day contracts and the D-League. There aren't many of those, and there's no reason his success shouldn't be cheered.

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